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Topic: Silk Road founder gets 2 life sentences.
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Fri 05/29/15 09:44 PM




you see what im saying? he didnt overdose
those people, they overdosed themselves on
the goods they purchased from his website
(not directly from him).
Hereeeeees your sign!

do you understand my point though archer? ill put it another way for you that may make it easier to understand drinker laugh

if i go to the liquor store and buy a bottle of 151, and go home and pound it all down in 10 minutes, and die. is it the liquor stores fault for selling it to me? or is it my own fault for being dumb enough to drink a bottle of 151 in 10 minutes? its not the liquor stores fault, they were providing me with a product of which i am responsible for once i leave the store. the liquor store didnt cause me to drink it all in 10 minutes, i did it myself because i was uneducated and thought i would get drunk quicker. do you see my point?

drinker bigsmile
Good Lord Im in the land of dumbazzes lol.....Im out! laugh


how do you figure, if youre going to say im a "dumbazz" you could atleast validate your argument.
This is a joke right?! Where are the hidden cameras? Here? Or here?
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Oh Good Lord, gimme a break lol

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Fri 05/29/15 09:45 PM
Drugs are not a crime, it is but the color of law devised to keep the prison system full.


i agree, in a truly free society government should not decide what a person can or cannot put into their own body. 75% of the prison population (of which the US has more people in prison that any other country in the world) are drug offenders. US has 4% of the worlds population, but has 25% of the worlds total prison population.

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Fri 05/29/15 11:18 PM
some rapists and murderers get off with lesser sentences.

What would happen if the rapists and murderers started a dark web website that offered to trade rape and murder victims for bitcoins?

Or helped rapists and murderers collaborate in large cross country rape and murder networks?

What if someone wasn't a rapist or murderer but started a website specifically catering to rapists and murderers allowing people to sell anthrax, and rohypnol, and mail bombs, or access to murder for hire?

Would 2 life sentences be too much? Would any prison sentence be too much?

Should we go sensational and ask what if he started a website specifically catering to child pornographers, helping kiddie diddlers avoid detection?
He isn't touching kids himself. He isn't taking pictures himself.
He's just providing a website that provides anonymity for customers to buy and sell goods and services anonymously.

this guy gets 2 life sentences for creating a website that allowed people to exchange bitcoins for services or goods

This guy gets 2 life sentences for creating a website that facilitated the sale of illegal services and/or goods to a massive scale.

Did you ever download tor and visit silk road and see all the stuff that was for sale on there?
It wasn't just drugs. You could buy credit card numbers by the thousands, social security numbers, identities for theft, hit men, body removal, prescription bottles to hide illegal drugs from cops for traffic stops, guns, explosives, website passwords and "hacks", fake i.d.'s, soooo much more.
Anything that had to do with something illegal could be gotten from there.
Drugs were a huge part.
And it wasn't just in personal use quantities, but distribution quantities.

It wasn't a site where people went to buy organic groceries and oh look it just happens you can get weed too.

he simply offered them a a site to buy goods anonymously. he didnt actually sell drugs himself.

The sinoloa cartel is mostly just a transport company.
They don't really grow the drugs themselves or sell them, they just take them from point a to b for the people that do. Like drug UPS.
Does that absolve them of any responsibility?

Charles Manson never killed anyone. Should he be released and possibly paid millions of dollars for being incarcerated for so long even though others did the killings?

i feel the judge tried to make an example of him

He did.
The judge actually said he was making an example of him so anyone else that attempts to do the same thing will know there are severe consequences.

US has 4% of the worlds population, but has 25% of the worlds total prison population.

We also have a huge share of the global economy and worlds wealth.
Crime goes where the money is, where the payoff is worth the risk.

The U.S. may only have 4% of the global population, but as a country, in comparison to other countries, we have one of the most populous countries in the world.



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Sat 05/30/15 12:40 AM
OMG! You're so smart! Marry me! smitten

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Sun 05/31/15 02:19 AM

Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht has been sentenced to life in prison

Ross Ulbricht, founder and mastermind of the Silk Road, has been sentenced to life in prison after being found guilty of narcotics conspiracy and other charges earlier this year. Those charges came with a 20-year minimum sentence but no possibility of the death penalty, making life in prison the harshest possible sentence. That's exactly the punishment that Judge Katherine Forrest decided upon, though she admitted it was a "very, very difficult" call to make. Her ruling leaves Ulbricht without any hope of parole. Barring a successful appeal, Ulbricht, 31, will die behind bars. Judge Forrest described Silk Road as "an assault on the public health of our communities."

According to Motherboard, the judge launched into an unforgiving teardown of Ulbricht's character as she revealed he'd be locked away for life. "You are no better a person than any other drug dealer. Your education doesn't make you different, and makes this more inexplicable," Judge Forrest said. Ulbricht's request to serve his time in a prison with more relaxed security was also denied during the hearing. Ulbricht has said he plans to challenge the guilty conviction.

""You are no better a person than any other drug dealer.""

The charges stem from Ulbricht's management of the Silk Road, which used Tor Hidden Services and Bitcoin payments to create an ostensibly anonymous marketplace for drugs and other goods. Shut down in October of 2013, the Silk Road was the largest marketplace of its kind, and subsequent attempts at similar online marketplaces have been stymied by law enforcement actions and exit scams. The prosecution estimates that the Silk Road handled as much as $200 million in drug transactions, a figure that played prominently into today's sentencing decision.

The defense also made an extensive appeal for leniency, citing Ulbricht's ability to contribute to society in spite of his crimes. Ulbricht's team submitted nearly a hundred letters from friends, family, and other acquaintances, testifying to Ulbricht's good character. "I’ve had my youth, and I know you must take away my middle years," Ulbricht wrote in a pre-sentencing statement, "but please leave me my old age." Judge Forrest had a harsh reaction to Ulbricht's plea, describing it as a "display of arrogance that the court takes into consideration."

Am i the only one who thinks this is ridiculous? some rapists and murderers get off with lesser sentences. this guy gets 2 life sentences for creating a website that allowed people to exchange bitcoins for services or goods. Silk Road was mainly known as a site that people could anonymously buy drugs using bitcoins, but im not sure the owner ever actually sold drugs himself. given he has no prior record, im pretty sure a first time drug dealer doesnt usually get a life sentence. i feel the judge tried to make an example of him to discourage anyone from trying to start a new "silk road". i really think when he appeals he will be given a lower sentence. anyone have any opinions on this?


He is also facing two counts of conspiracy to commit murder.

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Sun 05/31/15 02:20 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Sun 05/31/15 02:23 AM

No, I disagree with you in two ways.

First and most important, the fact that worse people have gotten away with less punishment is an entirely WRONG reason to let someone else off the hook.

I would have it so that the people who DID get away with murder and worse would have been punished more, but I'm sure not going to let ANOTHER vile person go free because I'm mad about them.

Second, this guy purposely made it possible to hurt thousands upon thousands of people, purely for his own profit. He doesn't even have the excuse of spur of the moment bad acts.

I don't give a damn how talented he is. The other people you cited who got off with lesser punishments were creative too. All of them CHOSE to use their talents to harm the rest of us.

Bye-bye.




It is really sad that people don't really understand how bad the "Dark Side" or "Dark Web" is.

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