To be blunt, the Kim Jong dynasty of North Korea is a totalitarian Hell hole.

Christopher Hitchens reported that North Koreans are so chronically malnourished they on average are about 4" shorter than their South Korean cousins.
Sadly, (horrifyingly), it is not merely their physical stature which is diminished. Similar affects are reported for their intellect.

It is a horror so grotesque even gallows humor fails to soothe the grim reality:
- millions have starved in North Korean famine
- the good news is, the North Korean's are now eating lawn clippings, and tree bark to survive
- the bad news is, there isn't enough to go around

NK is essentially a prison nation, a "hermit kingdom".
A few manage to escape INto China, for the freedom and improved living conditions.

But as bad as the prison nation of NK is, there are prisons within the prison.
It's difficult for outsiders, Westerners to know the details.

But North Korean prison camp #14 had an escapee named Shin Dong-hyuk.

The stories he recounted to his South Korean custodians are harrowing. Prisoners there live lives of neglect, starvation, mental cruelty, and abuse. Some of the stories he told, such as having cigarettes extinguished on his back, are born out by his scars, consistent with such abuse.
And while the world might have been done a favor if NATO & South Korea had simply nuked Pyongyang ten years ago, the opportunity to do that may be disappearing, as NK builds its nuclear and other military capabilities.

What do you think we should do?

All we can do, is what we did about the other nations who ripped themselves to shreds: wait until they are done.

I think progress is hidden right now...they are running low on relatives to maintain the weird leader-worship regime. As with the Soviet Union, sooner or later they will end up with one that actually wants more for their country than fear.

We can a look at Castro's Cuba and find similarities. Maybe Obama will bail Kim out as well.
RIP, Christopher Hitchens.

All this while China is watching amidst it all

But you forget, the north already has nukes. We only rip countries apart they don't possess a deterant capability. Why do think we're no longer going to war with Iran? Because they have the capabity to resist.

Nukes are not the only reasons they not going to war with them....its more political strategies too....

Yeah, the north is China's crazy proxy. But china will also keep a leash on them and not let them get too crazy

Its like china is big daddy watching its 2 kids (Korea) armwrestle

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The scary persians are going to send out their magic carpet squadrons and shoot down all of our jets and then bomb our cities....

They don't have the capability to bomb our cities, but they are a well oiled machine. They've been preparing for 30 years to absorb an attack and launch a relatiatory strike. This strike won't be at the us mainland but at our forward deployed forces, such as ships for example. They know they can't win but they'll make if much more difficult than Iraq

They don't have the capability to bomb our cities, but they are a well oiled machine. They've been preparing for 30 years to absorb an attack and launch a relatiatory strike. This strike won't be at the us mainland but at our forward deployed forces, such as ships for example. They know they can't win but they'll make if much more difficult than Iraq

Anyone can read the literature put out by the pentagon and various think tanks in dc. They spell it out quite clearly

Iran's problem is that they have many more enemies than allies. When Putin is gone, and his days are numbered, you can be rest assured that those enemies will be coming for the ayatollahs head.

It won't be the US... or Israel...

Your right about that. That's one thing all of the various head choppers have in common, they hate Iran

Btw, Imo, the head chopping groups are much worse than Iran.

Nothing.
We aren't the worlds parents or providers of paradise and equality to all.

At best ask South Korea what it wants to do and possibly support their decision without doing everything for them.

My thanks to you two gents for getting it right.

Painfully true.
Worse:
It provides a perverse incentive.
After what we did to Malomar Quadaffy, NO WONDER Iran wants nukes!

BTW, I'm skeptical about NK's nuclear warfare capability.

The U.S. has a nuclear triad.
If the enemy takes out our nuclear bombers (B1's & B2's) we've still got our missiles.
And according to what I've read of it, ONE of our Minuteman nuclear missiles has more destructive power aboard than all the ordnance used in WWII, on ALL sides; including the nukes we dropped on Japan.
If they take out our bombers and land-based missiles, we've still got our undetectable, unkillable nuclear powered, nuclear armed submarines. And the "christmas-tree farm" on a Trident submarine is a force to be reckoned with.

It wouldn't surprise me if a preemptive nuclear strike on NK might neutralize their nuclear capability.
I gather NK's deterrence is conventional artillery.

It seems they could flatten Seoul before it could be evacuated.
So Seoul SK is held hostage to the Kim Jong criminal dynasty.

Isn't that just "special"!

so,the Mullahs only want Nukes because of that Libyan Clown?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/julian-borger-global-security-blog/2011/jun/08/iran-blogging/url]

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/23/irans-grand-ayatollahs-earth-belongs-to-muslims-end-is-near/

Being Twelvers is the reason!

http://humanevents.com/2012/01/19/day-after-iran-tests-the-bomb/