anyone have any thoughts on these verses? some seem to think it tells of the alien gods and their time here...

here is the whole translated version in PDF form:
http://www.forbiddengate.com/BookOfEnoch.pdf


(3) REBELS AMONG THE WATCHERS (pages 15-17)
This is the story of the fallen angels. The beginning, 6.1-2, is virtually identical with Genesis 6.1-2. In Enoch's book, we get their names and many other details.
At 6.6, Enoch explains the naming of Mount Hermon -
in Hebrew it means curses. The mountain that he was actually referring to is possibly somewhere near Lake Van in Turkey. It is common for translators to update names rather than use phonetics,
so the few names that appear, mainly mountains and
rivers, can't be relied upon as accurate identifications. We don't know whether there was another mountain called
"curses" or even what language the book was originally written in.

At 7.2, he says they had giant sons. I believe that this means, not that they were physically big, but powerful and wealthy with private armies. Nevertheless, the Watchers may have been larger than the local people were. Many years of advanced
healthcare and nutrition can lead to increasing average size.
They were probably quite young, these runaway angels, but they had weapons and knowledge (8.1) that meant they were able to dominate Enoch's people easily.
Since they could have children, by women, I think it is safe to assume that they are men, and not angels (or any other non-human entity), since breeding is species
specific by definition. They were regarded as angels by Enoch and his people, (see what Lamech says at 106.5-6 in section 10), but Enoch also says they could appear like
men when they wished, (see 17.1), but even so, he n
ever seems to doubt their divinity.

At 8.4, the scene switches: to the angels in heaven - the Watchers at their home base. The activities of the runaways cause them to
be noticed. This section ends with some of the Watchers asking
their Headman what should they do about the runaways. Alternatively, it could be seen as God being informed that
no souls wish to incarnate on the Earth because conditions are becoming so bad.

echo.. echo echo..lol..ohh..Enoch..

cool, a PHD!

Hmmmm is this anything like The Book of Eli? I saw the movie at least lol

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch

Had to look it up

me too, i've been reading other peoples views on it for a while, so i finally had to see what it was about...

This has been around for some time now.

Enoch was the guy who didnt die but was taken up to heaven in the physical form. He was the friend of God. And he was the one who was asked by fallen angels to help mitigate their cause with God so that they could return to heaven.

and i was under the impression god didn't make mistakes, so how could they be allowed back in heaven?

i awlays equate fallen angels with ET's...

I know they became fallen angels because they either defected or became AWOL.

Free will applies to them too.

God is God. What creation does or doesnt do wont diminish that.

i was under the impression that "fallen angels" are the angels god kicked out of heaven with Lucifer...

The school of hard Enochs...

My understanding is that "Angel" merely meant "messenger". That would remove quite an amount of dogma from their mention.

I don't think these were aliens, I think they were the ones who were sent to provision and, when the time called for it, breed, with the humans transplanted to the newly seeded planet earth.

Either it was necessary to flee a home planet or earth was first intended as a prison colony (like Australia).

Maybe the planet hop explains the reason it takes the "prophets" so long to return...interstellar travel is time consuming.

And ironically, Lucifer equates to "light bringer" while Jesus was described as "the light of the world"...and both are referred to as the "morning star"...coincidence? YOU DECIDE!

this has nothing to do with the book of Enoch, but interesting...
De Gelder was one of Rembrandt's pupils who lived in Amsterdam, from 1661 to 1663. He was one of the most talented and devoted of Rembrandt's students and a highly acclaimed master painter. The Baptism of Christ depicts the scene from the Bible where John the Baptist is baptizing Jesus in the river Jordan. This scene has been illustrated by many artists. However, this scene is particularly interesting because of the flying saucer hovering over the scene with beams of light shining down and illuminating the event.

yeah...defected...had no place in heaven...thrown out and not allowed back..

i believe there is an hierarchy to the heavenly bodies/angelic beings... and along with it other job descriptions apart from being messengers..

Ever stop to consider that the bible was simply a Hebrew epic hero tale, or collection of tales, in the vein of the Sumerian Gilgamesh, or the Greek Homer's Iliad and Odyssey?

not really...lol..

I have....

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