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I see this a clear case of child abuse. I believe the teacher 'got off' on tormenting this kid. I believe the administration & school board is to blame & they obviously have TOO much power over people that can NOT afford a private education for their children(or that it is ' impractical' for them to be home or cyber schooled.). If this was my child, I would be in jail... because I would of seriously jacked this ***** up! 
http://www.infowars.com/ having worked in the class room - directly with children with special needs...PLEASE; there are no black & white answers but only protocol/ procedures to follow! But protecting that child & and all the other little ones that he/she might harm when they are not able to control emotional outburst is the #1 primary concern for all involved. Within the link are several exceptional informative follow up sub links that give all the school dist rules that they must document & follow when it comes to dealing with special needs little humans that can't or are just having a really BAD DAY---it happens! Sure we all want everyone to love & cherish our children as we parents do...but that isn't the reality of life of a child with special needs; and some of them learn early on what emotional buttons trigger the quickest response from dear ole mom. They're in the 'system' long enough to know what words garner the fastest results...smart as a FOX! Think about the kids sitting in class wanting to learn...but most of their classroom time is dedicated to enteruptutions like this...are they getting they're monies worth...how's their stress level for that day? |
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Edited by
SassyEuro2
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Tue 05/19/15 02:50 PM
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Well... the law is the law
Child abuse is child abuse Torture is torture . A bad teacher is a bad teacher. * I guess she can't dial either.. like his parents or a school counsel grumble: * I'm not making allowances or excuses for her or anyone else. If she can't handle it or is stressed... that is HER problem. If she is half as guilty as she appears, God help her & her "focus room" offspring. Or would that make her a bad parent or mean mommy ? * rhetorical* |
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The behaviour of some students,
should relegate them to isolation, until said behaviour improves. An hour and a half is nothing. Though, the school should have provided a desk and chair. |
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The behaviour of some students, should relegate them to isolation, until said behaviour improves. An hour and a half is nothing. Though, the school should have provided a desk and chair. Rarely...would this little guy be left all alone; generally an aide / para would be assigned to chart what he was doing while being observed. But honestly there were children that we couldn't leave alone with any furniture...it's amazing/shocking how strong they become when they're meds & anger go off the charts! One yong man loved to strip down and cr*p on the floor or urinate on the Para charting his behavior...he was wise beyond his age!!! But inclusion (ADA) regulations makes this something all pubic schools work through...it isn't a onesize fits all scenario! |
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Child- Alex, a 9yr boy w/ ADHD
This pretty much explains it all, might as well lock this boy up, his condition isn't going to get any better right? By the pics, I can tell this "isolation room" is working well by the patch up work on the gypsum wall. 
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Johnn1111 stated >>>
Child- Alex, a 9yr boy w/ ADHD
This pretty much explains it all, might as well lock this boy up, his condition isn't going to get any better right? By the pics, I can tell this "isolation room" is working well by the patch up work on the gypsum wall.
Ahhhh...come on; you know how much stuff gets stuck to those walls in the way of art work/decorations/seasonal stuff & charting progress for students...pull that tacky back tape off and the paint & often the plaster comes too. LOL |
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Edited by
JOHNN111
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Tue 05/19/15 04:32 PM
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charting progress for students 
They're in isolation |
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There is an article on my san antonio dot com that has a reply from the school.
It says the boy was placed into a "SAFE'" room.. Not a FOCUS room because his behavior was either endangering himself or other students. The boy admitted to his mother that he is often taken out of the class room for misbehavior. http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Focus-Room-complaint-subject-of-NBISD-probe-6270554.php |
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im not saying kids shouldnt be punished when they act up. my question is what is the temperature in that room? why is that kid having his arms in his shirt to keep warm? if the kid is cold why is he denied a jacket? and made to sit on a floor in a circle. i had in school suspension in middle school. it was a desk outside the principals office. normal temperature, normal lunch time etc. kids do have to learn how to act, but if its unusually cold in that room and hes denied a jacket, thats the part i think is cruel. can the kid go for an hour and a half without food, sure. my only issue is the temperature and if it was unusually cold why was he denied a jacket... and i know infowars will automatically make people think CT'r, but like i said i dont care, they post things most news companies are afraid to touch.
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Edited by
PacificStar48
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Tue 05/19/15 05:14 PM
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While I understand the need for a disruptive child to be removed from a classroom for minimal periods, one hour or less. If the child is not being remediated and has to have such punishments on a daily basis clearly the learning environment is NOT appropriate for that child and in violation of Federal Law 94-124 as is to be reviewed and amended. Even if it means sending the student home and home schooling one on one by qualified staff (plural).
I find it abusive to deny any child; especially a hysterical or disabled child the use of a toilet and or sufficient climate control that the child is neither hot or cold. Clearly this teacher needed a sweater to be comfortable and if you are sitting or laying on a concrete floor you would be even colder. If the child's activity is being restricted then a safety cushion should have been placed under the child to prevent decubidi or injury and acute pain. This child was clearly in physical and psychological distress and being bullied by an adult who is not doing anything to calm the child, redirect the child, but is clearly intimidating the child even though he is submitting. Clearly no education was going on. That her purse is even in the room is inappropriate. As is using a room with surface damage where a child could ingest paint, tape, or plaster particles. I am not going to speak to the source of these reports but a picture speaks a thousand words and none of them good. Are some of these children easy to manage? No; but if it is illegal for parents to use these kind of tactics then why is It legal for public schools? Solitary confinement clearly does nothing but panic a child and make them self injure. |
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Wow...we're all going off the deep end of the pool diving board without much reference back to the article and the angry mother's diatribe about the photo event!
Asst. Principal was 'supposedly' trying to block the photo's from being taken; towhom do you think that those personal items belong too? And by all means let's all get irrational over what that little child 'STATES', without looking at any of the schools documentation for same child...I'll lay odds that his lunch card hasn't missed 1 meal nor his clothes have ever gone home soiled from lack of a toilet brake! But don't let truth stop the HYSTERIA...here. |
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Edited by
SassyEuro2
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Tue 05/19/15 08:25 PM
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There is an article on my san antonio dot com that has a reply from the school. It says the boy was placed into a "SAFE'" room.. Not a FOCUS room because his behavior was either endangering himself or other students. The boy admitted to his mother that he is often taken out of the class room for misbehavior. http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Focus-Room-complaint-subject-of-NBISD-probe-6270554.php Everyone.... I checked this link 3 times. ( And many on this case & others like now under investigation in USA. The boy did not "admit " as in confessing a crime. He told his mother " that is where the BAD kids go". He is 9 with ADHD, if an adult refers to him as BAD, he will believe that. The teacher & the school called it a "focus room". So the boy & his mom & other parents believe it. And reported that to the district, the police, other parents & blogged it as a " focus room". The room does NOT meet the states standards as a ' focus room " (Probably not the standards of a "safe room " either. And definitely does NOT meet the standards for a 'special needs' child...NOT even in size. The mother only seen the room because she was assertive & insisted in being BROUGHT to where her son was HELD. And she took the photos. A " focus room" & a " safe room" are NEVER to be used as punishment. And BOTH have requirements & TIME limits. * sitting in a circle the teacher herself drew on the cold floor is not one of them.... " Earning classroom minutes" ? An ADHD child usually can not sit in a chair that long. But she didn't know that? 
NOT all of Alex's statement is being released. for his protection (& the investigation). Which is on the TV channels, I LISTED also. * I'm not listing 16 links or anymore for that matter, those who see the big picture, see it, those that care & think children have rights will want to check & know.... like I did. 
Those that don't never will. Oh well.* The "safe room " is supposed to be used as a last resort, so children do not hurt themselves or other children. ONLY 24 states have " focus rooms" & or " safe rooms". It is up to each district to determine the code & regulations for them. * In some states and or districts, solitary confinement is deemed psychological abuse and is referred to legally as 'lnhumane treatment' & is equal to any physical abuse & subsequent prosecution* Right now..Texas & Louisiana(in case anyone wants to check WHERE some users are from) & because those states are in news ( this past few days) & being investigated for violations. Which isn't really a new thing. Some cases (I read about today) are from 4 years ago. But there must be more.... (some abuse is on the schools own videos) I'm out of here... maybe a chit chat thread  Have fun
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Wow...we're all going off the deep end of the pool diving board without much reference back to the article and the angry mother's diatribe about the photo event! Asst. Principal was 'supposedly' trying to block the photo's from being taken; towhom do you think that those personal items belong too? And by all means let's all get irrational over what that little child 'STATES', without looking at any of the schools documentation for same child...I'll lay odds that his lunch card hasn't missed 1 meal nor his clothes have ever gone home soiled from lack of a toilet brake! But don't let truth stop the HYSTERIA...here. lol, we agree, for once... can't understand why some are believing this infowars "extended" article... oh well, infowars needs the attention from all the believers of this obvious fake new-story... |
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Edited by
InvictusV
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Wed 05/20/15 01:25 PM
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There is an article on my san antonio dot com that has a reply from the school. It says the boy was placed into a "SAFE'" room.. Not a FOCUS room because his behavior was either endangering himself or other students. The boy admitted to his mother that he is often taken out of the class room for misbehavior. http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Focus-Room-complaint-subject-of-NBISD-probe-6270554.php Everyone.... I checked this link 3 times. ( And many on this case & others like now under investigation in USA. The boy did not "admit " as in confessing a crime. He told his mother " that is where the BAD kids go". He is 9 with ADHD, if an adult refers to him as BAD, he will believe that. The teacher & the school called it a "focus room". So the boy & his mom & other parents believe it. And reported that to the district, the police, other parents & blogged it as a " focus room". The room does NOT meet the states standards as a ' focus room " (Probably not the standards of a "safe room " either. And definitely does NOT meet the standards for a 'special needs' child...NOT even in size. The mother only seen the room because she was assertive & insisted in being BROUGHT to where her son was HELD. And she took the photos. A " focus room" & a " safe room" are NEVER to be used as punishment. And BOTH have requirements & TIME limits. * sitting in a circle the teacher herself drew on the cold floor is not one of them.... " Earning classroom minutes" ? An ADHD child usually can not sit in a chair that long. But she didn't know that?
NOT all of Alex's statement is being released. for his protection (& the investigation). Which is on the TV channels, I LISTED also. * I'm not listing 16 links or anymore for that matter, those who see the big picture, see it, those that care & think children have rights will want to check & know.... like I did.
Those that don't never will. Oh well.* The "safe room " is supposed to be used as a last resort, so children do not hurt themselves or other children. ONLY 24 states have " focus rooms" & or " safe rooms". It is up to each district to determine the code & regulations for them. * In some states and or districts, solitary confinement is deemed psychological abuse and is referred to legally as 'lnhumane treatment' & is equal to any physical abuse & subsequent prosecution* Right now..Texas & Louisiana(in case anyone wants to check WHERE some users are from) & because those states are in news ( this past few days) & being investigated for violations. Which isn't really a new thing. Some cases (I read about today) are from 4 years ago. But there must be more.... (some abuse is on the schools own videos) I'm out of here... maybe a chit chat thread Have fun
"Snowden said his son, who hasn't returned to school since Wednesday, spoke of repeatedly being placed in the room for misbehaving." |
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that Little Guy is lucky!
We used to get our Arses whoopped!
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2old2messaround stated >>>
Wow...we're all going off the deep end of the pool diving board without much reference back to the article and the angry mother's diatribe about the photo event! Asst. Principal was 'supposedly' trying to block the photo's from being taken; towhom do you think that those personal items belong too? And by all means let's all get irrational over what that little child 'STATES', without looking at any of the schools documentation for same child...I'll lay odds that his lunch card hasn't missed 1 meal nor his clothes have ever gone home soiled from lack of a toilet brake! But don't let truth stop the HYSTERIA...here. mightymoe stated >>> lol, we agree, for once... can't understand why some are believing this infowars "extended" article... oh well, infowars needs the attention from all the believers of this obvious fake new-story... Well, amazing things do happen and it's nice to see that you didn't SLAM me for being a 'LIBERAL' either; was that because you agreed with me? 
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2old2messaround stated >>>
Wow...we're all going off the deep end of the pool diving board without much reference back to the article and the angry mother's diatribe about the photo event! Asst. Principal was 'supposedly' trying to block the photo's from being taken; towhom do you think that those personal items belong too? And by all means let's all get irrational over what that little child 'STATES', without looking at any of the schools documentation for same child...I'll lay odds that his lunch card hasn't missed 1 meal nor his clothes have ever gone home soiled from lack of a toilet brake! But don't let truth stop the HYSTERIA...here. mightymoe stated >>> lol, we agree, for once... can't understand why some are believing this infowars "extended" article... oh well, infowars needs the attention from all the believers of this obvious fake new-story... Well, amazing things do happen and it's nice to see that you didn't SLAM me for being a 'LIBERAL' either; was that because you agreed with me?
it seemed what you were saying was honest, being honest isn't very liberal like... 
eh, i don't slam people for being a liberal, only when they act like one... 
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Edited by
2OLD2MESSAROUND
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Wed 05/20/15 02:22 PM
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Conrad_73 stated >>>
that Little Guy is lucky! We used to get our Arses whoopped!  Guess this A$$ Swipe didn't get the memo 
High school teacher accused of verbally,
physically assaulting student Posted 12:23 PM, May 20, 2015, by Q13 FOX News Staff OCEAN SHORES — School officials placed a North Beach High School teacher on paid administrative leave following a complaint from a parent that the educator verbally and physically abused a student in class. Stan Pinnick, the North Beach School District Superintendent in Ocean Shores, confirmed that a teacher was put on leave — as is standard procedure — after a parent called Grays Harbor County Sheriff’s Office to report abuse of a student. The alleged incident occurred Friday, Pinnick said, and involved mostly verbal and possible physical abuse. The Grays Harbor County Sheriff’s Office is investigating. A call to the sheriff’s office has not yet been returned. Q13 FOX News is not naming the teacher, as they have not been charged with a crime. http://q13fox.com/2015/05/20/high-school-teacher-accused-of-verbally-physically-assaulting-student/ My stand on all is this: I'm not saying that this young 9yr old doesn't have his emotional issues; what I'm saying is --- To Please, allow that this mother has been fed some verbal 'button pushing' communication that could so easily have been checked out with just asking to see the logs and monitoring system/journals that they have to keep for such 'FOCUS ROOMS' - and all special needs little children! His lunch punches could have been verified/his clothing checked for fecal/urination and his behaving like he was 'freezing to death' while getting his photo taken could feasibly all been an act...but then again! Take the word of a child that's been in the system long enough to know 'what words will trigger' a response and I'll bet you dollar to donuts...1 week at home with his dear momma and they'll both be looking for another public school to enroll him into!
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May 19, 2015
Texas Monthly by Dan Solomon " What you should know about elementary school " Calm" & " Focus" rooms." " Texas provides teachers with a fairly wide array of disciplnary tools. It is one of nineteen states that allow corporal punishment and parents who want to prevent their children from being struck by a teacher have to OPT-OUT from allowing it.... this option only became available in 2012." " Not every school district allows spanking, of course, but one does... New Braunfels ISD... This District is under investigation" http://www.texas monthly.com/daily-post/what-you-should-know-about-elementary-school-calm-and-focus-rooms * More on the link, as far as why Alex's case may be a strong one & a previous case * |
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Edited by
2OLD2MESSAROUND
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Sooooo...some where between the 'HYPE' and the link is the truth and that will all come out as the proceeding legal action pushes through the Texas board of education due process;
and as someone that's been in a school district that has seen the loss of space become an issue between what's cobbled up for computer science and music & art class disappears as a 'MOBILE' 20minute hit & miss class once a week...any school building having a 50'sq room set aside for a SAFE ROOM would be amazing! We teachers/aides/paras didn't even have a 'SAFE PLACE' for our own coats/purses/coffee/break room... But that's another 'soap box' for another topic/another day! It'��s also fair to be skeptical. Adults who work with children in Texas have been accused of monstrous acts before that turned out to be false, but the situation in New Braunfels seems rather different from cases of witch hysteria-��for one, Alex'��s mother has photographs, and the school itself sent a letter to parents confirming that '��focus rooms'�� and '��safe rooms'�� are in use at the school: "Due to privacy laws, we are not able to provide any more detail about the student or the situation. You may hear the term 'focus room' or 'safe room.'�� These are two different environments. A '��focus room' is a classroom environment that allows for behavior intervention such as social skills lessons and counseling. A '��safe room' is used in times when a child is a danger to himself/herself or others." So while we can’t confirm details about the temperature of the room, or if teachers actually appear in the room to make fun of the children for being cold, that these isolation tactics are being utilized against small children appears to be a fact. Many also appear to be illegal-despite being in use in places besides just New Braunfels. The Texas Education Code Sec. 37.0021 (b)(2) specifically forbids '��seclusion'�� in a room smaller than 50 square feet from being used as a punishment, but an investigation in Plano in April found more than 100 'calm rooms' essentially the same as '��focus rooms' ��in use in PISD. NBC DFW found five other Dallas-area school districts employed similar rooms, and often used them on special education students (the TEC prohibits any students who receive special education services from being placed in any locked space), as well. When NBC 5 Investigates first questioned Plano ISD last fall, the district said 'students are not placed in these rooms' - students may access the rooms when they need a quiet calm environment'�� and that the '��door is not held shut from the outside.' Plano ISD also said all of the rooms were larger than 50 square feet, but that wasn'��t true. District records obtained by NBC 5 Investigates now show the room Micah was held in was just 36 square feet. Records show as of December, Plano had at 100 calm rooms district wide. At least 15 were smaller than the required 50 square feet. http://www.texasmonthly.com/daily-post/what-you-should-know-about-elementary-school-calm-and-focus-rooms |
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