"This is false, as are many other elements of the Obama administration’s account"


by Seymour M. Hersh | London Review | May 10, 2015


It’s been four years since a group of US Navy Seals assassinated Osama bin Laden in a night raid on a high-walled compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. The killing was the high point of Obama’s first term, and a major factor in his re-election. The White House still maintains that the mission was an all-American affair, and that the senior generals of Pakistan’s army and Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) were not told of the raid in advance. This is false, as are many other elements of the Obama administration’s account.

The White House’s story might have been written by Lewis Carroll: would bin Laden, target of a massive international manhunt, really decide that a resort town forty miles from Islamabad would be the safest place to live and command al-Qaida’s operations? He was hiding in the open. So America said.

The most blatant lie was that Pakistan’s two most senior military leaders – General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, chief of the army staff, and General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, director general of the ISI – were never informed of the US mission. This remains the White House position despite an array of reports that have raised questions, including one by Carlotta Gall in the New York Times Magazine of 19 March 2014. Gall, who spent 12 years as the Times correspondent in Afghanistan, wrote that she’d been told by a ‘Pakistani official’ that Pasha had known before the raid that bin Laden was in Abbottabad. The story was denied by US and Pakistani officials, and went no further. In his book Pakistan: Before and after Osama (2012), Imtiaz Gul, executive director of the Centre for Research and Security Studies, a think tank in Islamabad, wrote that he’d spoken to four undercover intelligence officers who – reflecting a widely held local view – asserted that the Pakistani military must have had knowledge of the operation. The issue was raised again in February, when a retired general, Asad Durrani, who was head of the ISI in the early 1990s, told an al-Jazeera interviewer that it was ‘quite possible’ that the senior officers of the ISI did not know where bin Laden had been hiding, ‘but it was more probable that they did [know]. And the idea was that, at the right time, his location would be revealed. And the right time would have been when you can get the necessary quid pro quo – if you have someone like Osama bin Laden, you are not going to simply hand him over to the United States.’

This spring I contacted Durrani and told him in detail what I had learned about the bin Laden assault from American sources: that bin Laden had been a prisoner of the ISI at the Abbottabad compound since 2006; that Kayani and Pasha knew of the raid in advance and had made sure that the two helicopters delivering the Seals to Abbottabad could cross Pakistani airspace without triggering any alarms; that the CIA did not learn of bin Laden’s whereabouts by tracking his couriers, as the White House has claimed since May 2011, but from a former senior Pakistani intelligence officer who betrayed the secret in return for much of the $25 million reward offered by the US, and that, while Obama did order the raid and the Seal team did carry it out, many other aspects of the administration’s account were false.

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more lies from the "transparent" obombya administration... i say this all the time but i really wonder: how does clinton get impeached for cheating on his wife, but yet obama purposely deceives the american people on a daily basis and gets caught, and nobody talks impeachment. obomba is doing a terrible job and broke every single promise he made before he became "elected". everytime a new obomba scandal surfaces, it just gets lost in the mess of all the other obomba scandals. why is this @$$hole still running this country?

I agree with this . The osama killing had a lot of loose ends from the time it happend & Yes the pakistani military knew all about it. The entire govt. & its agencues are being pumped up with millions of dollars by the U.S to eradicate the immnency of terrorism....terrorism that the U.S itsself created & created a smokescreen for all to perceive it as Something else.



As for Obama i only have one word. 'Jerkoff'.

Wait!
The Seals assassinated
Obama Bin Laden?




The Sydney, Australia news paper
reported bin laden's death,
two full days, BEFORE, any mention
of it was made by the u.s. media,
or u.s. gov..

It's an interesting article in its entirety. How the Paks knew about the raid. How Osama was actually under a doctor's care and supposedly almost an invalid who would have been incapable of putting up much of a struggle. How Osama was actually under house arrest of the ISI and that they provided bodyguards for him. How the Pak military was kind of waived off saying ignore the radar of the incoming choppers. That after the incoming helo crashes, after SEALS used demo charges to gain access inside the buidling, and after there had been multiple firefights on site, NOBODY showed up to the scene. No police, military, fire trucks, ambulances, nothing. WTF?

The story however contradicts a couple things though. It claims the attack took place during a long blackout. What would have been a relatively quiet environment (for a city) would have announced the arrival of the choppers, as well as amplified the resulting firefights in the absence of the usual ambient noise. By all SEAL accounts, they flew over a well lit and bustling city at the time of the raid. Books also spoke to an issue that originally was thought to have compromised Pak air force secrets. In No Easy Day, while flying their exfil (exit) route, they were concerned that Pak F-16s would catch them before they hit Afghan airspace and shoot them down. It's hinted that the Pak fighters don't have a 'look down' radar capability and hugging the terrain would keep the choppers safe. IF true, anyone wanting to transit Pak airspace undetected simply has to fly less than 200 feet off the deck.

All I can say we're not always supposed to know how 'secret' missions work. That's why **** is classified. (lol) Once the info is declassified however, then people can go to town looking for the details. If Obama lied to the American people about how the raid went down, and the details behind it, well shame on him and anyone stupid enough to have voted for him. SEALS who wrote books and did interviews were supposed to keep their mouths shut as well. However the prevailing opinion was once the Commander In Chief flapped his gums and told everyone who did it, then why shouldn't they make a buck from their new found fame?

Navy Seals???

I don't believe they killed him.

I am waiting for Brian Williams new book to come out which will clear up the whole question.

"How I killed Bin Laden... with my bare hands. By Brian Williams"

He also promises that a selfie will be in the book. Him with his arm around the shoulder of a dead Bin Laden

In the opening hour of his inaugural East Coast drive-time show, Michael Savage signaled he has no intention of abandoning his passion for uncovering the full story behind the deaths of 22 members of Navy SEAL Team 6 in Afghanistan shortly after it was leaked that their unit killed Osama bin Laden.

The subject came up for a second time in the show when a regular listener said she liked the fact that he covered subjects no one else on talk-radio seemed to be talking about.

“They were killed. They were assassinated. They were executed. Or it was done because there’s a moron working inside the Defense Department who did it to them,” Savage said.

“Either way, somebody should go to prison for this.”

Savage called the August 2011 Taliban shootdown of the CH-47D Chinook helicopter that killed all 38 passengers “one of the greatest military scandals in American history.”

“How could we lose more men in one mission than in the entire history of the Navy SEALS, and no one has been held accountable for it?” he asked.

Savage had further questions:

“Who put them in an old slow-flying helicopter in a combat zone?”

“Why didn’t they break them up into fast-strike helicopters?”

“Who made this decision in the Defense Department?

“Who made it in the Obama administration?”

“These are questions, man, and I want them answered, and I want a hearing; and you want to hear equality, you want to hear fairness? How about fairness to the families whose hearts are broken by somebody in the Obama administration who killed those Navy SEALs? Would that be equality?”

Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, said last month that the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform will hold a hearing early this year to investigate the disaster.

Savage noted on his show Thursday that he dedicated his novel “A Time for War” to the SEALs to try “to awaken America.”

In July, as WND reported, the father of one of the SEALs told Savage in a radio interview he believed the U.S. government sent his son and his colleagues to their deaths.

After Vice President Joe Biden revealed that SEAL Team 6 carried out the operation that killed Osama bin Laden in May 2011, Strange said the members of his son’s team gave startling indications to their families they were about to meet their demise.

Charles Strange, the father of slain SEAL Michael Strange, told Savage that in June 2011, on at least three separate occasions his son grabbed him by the bicep and announced that he had prepared his will.

The bewildered father finally was able to find out what it all meant.

Michael Strange, his father recalled, said: “Something’s going on with the team. Somebody’s leaking things out. Something’s going on.”

Savage, reacting with emotion, asked: “Your son knew he was being sent to his death?”

“They knew,” Strange replied. “They knew something was up. Every one of them.”

Other families of the victims have reported similar experiences with their sons the last time they saw them, Strange said.

Strange said documents related to the crash that he obtained show that, among other anomalies, the rescue team was held back.

“This was all planned,” he said. “I have it in the paperwork.”

Strange affirmed that there was no chase helicopter or any other kind of support for the team.

“So, you’re saying they planned to execute your son and the others on purpose?” Savage asked.

“One hundred percent, sir,” Strange replied.

Investigation

Prompted by the concerns expressed by family members, Chaffetz said his subcommittee on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is investigating the crash.

As WND reported in May, Strange recalled to the National Press Club in Washington his experience with President Obama at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware Aug. 9, 2011, when the remains of 30 U.S. troops were brought home from Afghanistan.

He leaned over to whisper into Obama’s ear to ask if there would be a congressional investigation into the death of his son.

President Obama whispered back, “We will look very, very, very deep into this.”

But Strange said he hadn’t heard a word since that encounter.

The families have filed a lawsuit against Obama, Vice President Biden, the Taliban, the governments of Afghanistan and Iran, because the Islamic regime promises to pay $10,000 for every dead U.S. service member.

Among their many suspicions, the families question the sudden replacement of seven Afghan commandos on board the helicopter just before takeoff. The seven who died in the attack are not the seven listed in the flight manifest. The families say that to this day, they don’t know the identities of the dead Afghans.

Strange noted that the chopper’s black box was never recovered and doubts the explanation that it was washed away in a flash flood.






lil fishy dontcha think?

I despise Obummer, but this in fact happened and we did in fact get the son of a ***** and he was in fact protected by Pakistan's ISI and Military so, it would make sense he lived in a large military town. Pakistan is one of the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world and the only reason we put up with their BS is because they have nuclear weapons.

They have been playing both sides of the fence for years. They were one of only two countries to recognize the Taliban and have diplomatic relations with them. They have supported Al Qaeda, ISIL and the Taliban for many person and have helped fund, train, give weapons to them.

united states also supported al queida, and gave them weapons... we created al queida.

i still find it very odd that all those navy seals have been killed. something isnt right there. i smell a government coverup

Malarkey!
Hersh is a Loudmouth Snook,whose couple of Scoops have gone to the head!

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/the-deceits-of-seymour-hersh/

CIA created al-Qaeda and gave $3 BILLION to Osama bin Laden



The US government trained, armed, funded and supported Osama bin Laden and his followers in Afghanistan during the cold war. With a huge investment of $3,000,000,000 (three billion US dollars), the CIA effectively created and nurtured bin Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network using American tax-payers money. Afghanistan is one of the world's poorest countries, where such an enormous sum sum of money would have had extraordinary value.

BBC news article:
"...Bin Laden left Saudi Arabia in 1979 to fight
against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The
Afghan jihad was backed with American dollars
and had the blessing of the governments of Saudi
Arabia and Pakistan. He received security
training from the CIA itself."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/155236.stm

Forbes business information service article:
"...[Osama bin Laden] received military and
financial assistance from the intelligence services
of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the United States."

http://www.forbes.com/charitable/2001/09/14/0914whoisobl.html

ABC News article:
"In the 1980s, bin Laden left his comfortable
Saudi home for Afghanistan to participate in the
Afghan jihad, or holy war, against the invading
forces of the Soviet Union - a cause that,
ironically, the United States funded, pouring
$3 billion into the Afghan resistance via the CIA."

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/binladen_profile.html

CIA–al-Qaeda controversy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It has been claimed that the CIA had ties with Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda and its "Afghan Arab" fighters when it armed Mujahideen groups against the Soviet Union during the Soviet war in Afghanistan.

Allegations

In a 2004 BBC article entitled "Al-Qaeda's origins and links", the BBC wrote:

During the anti-Soviet jihad Bin Laden and his fighters received American and Saudi funding. Some analysts believe Bin Laden himself had security training from the CIA.[1]

Robin Cook, Foreign Secretary in the UK from 1997–2001, believed the CIA had provided arms to the Arab Mujahideen, including Osama bin Laden, writing, "Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan." His source for this is unclear.[2]

In conversation with former British Defence Secretary Michael Portillo, two-time Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto said Osama bin Laden was initially pro-American.[3] Prince Bandar bin Sultan of Saudi Arabia, has also stated that bin Laden once expressed appreciation for the United States' help in Afghanistan. On CNN's Larry King program he said:[4]

Bandar bin Sultan: This is ironic. In the mid-'80s, if you remember, we and the United - Saudi Arabia and the United States were supporting the Mujahideen to liberate Afghanistan from the Soviets. He [Osama bin Laden] came to thank me for my efforts to bring the Americans, our friends, to help us against the atheists, he said the communists. Isn't it ironic?

Larry King: How ironic. In other words, he came to thank you for helping bring America to help him.

Bandar bin Sultan: Right.

Former FBI translator and whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, interviewed by Brad Friedman on the The Mike Malloy Show on June 2009 has stated: "I have information about things that our government has lied to us about. I know. For example, to say that since the fall of the Soviet Union we ceased all of our intimate relationship with Bin Laden and the Taliban - those things can be proven as lies, very easily, based on the information they classified in my case, because we did carry very intimate relationship with these people, and it involves Central Asia, all the way up to September 11."[5]

you got your Timeline all wrong!

not my timeline, came from wikipedia

I disagree with this.
Firstly pak is not one of the biggest supporter of terrorism & terrorism which i'm referring to is bombings, killing innocent people & all injustice against humanity.
The supporters are infact india & even the U.S & other states & it all gets pinned on pak as a terrorist country by the media & so on.
There's a lot of s h i t been going on & one needs indepth intel to really know the truth...watching the media ect will not do much coz its all B.S. The truth is never documented coz the U.S govt. itself is a total mess in terms of being straight.
Secondly do you think if the U.S wanted war with pak they care about nuclear weapons? LMAO thats funny stuff.
Saddam was claimed to have weapons of mass destruction but did it stop the U.S from invading it?
The truth is the corrupt pak govt. are with the U.S...they're basically puppets & they being fed millions of dollars by the U.S & are infact in good terms, but they show it as otherwise to the world.There is a LOT that goes on behind closed doors my friend.

Tomato86 all your points are legit & i agree with each one of them...its good to see someone that knows the facts

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The govt, its media, and its representatives lie.....PERIOD!

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