Topic: Baltimore Surveillance
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Wed 05/06/15 09:58 AM
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Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan lifts the State of emergency for Baltimore, and pulls out the National Guard.

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Baltimore Riots:2015 Surveillance
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Wed 05/06/15 10:19 AM
Well now that everyone has been lulled into a false sense of security, I am sure those living the thug life have taken the time to scope out their next targets of opportunity.

Will there now be a cat and mouse game of costing the government money by engaging in riots to generate more overtime pay and National Guard deployments, or is everyone a little burned out (no pun intended) from their rioting to take some time off and let the system prosecute the cops?

As I predicted in previous forums, we have seen all manner of discussion now regarding the dumping of federal funds into the area to try and solve systemic issues such as chronic unemployment and youth services such as recreational centers. Known as the 'hug a thug' program, the elitists in both the black and white communities seem to think the answer is to throw up some basketball nets (kinda racist) and build a cultural center so kids can make paper mache Martin Luther King heads or kwanzaa decorations. (Again kinda racist) I've seen programs where tens of thousands are spent for recording equipment and now everyone thinks they'll be the next Puff Daddy or 2Chainz. Problem is they can't all be famous.

Seems all they want to do is distract the kids instead of educate them. Try some incentivizing. If your whole school gets improved marks on average every 3 months lets say, it gets something like computers or AV equipment or books, or art supplies. THEN once we've established the relationship, learned some things, and rewarded successes, we can give the kids the more fun stuff.

Since the area is economically strapped how about we put the locals to work fixing up the hood? You get cash, you get food stamps, you get subsidized health care if you work. Seems reasonable. These people say they are not treated fairly, well step up Boo Boo. Here's your chance to be just like middle class whitey. You get to be a wage slave like the rest of us.

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Wed 05/06/15 10:28 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 05/06/15 10:36 AM

Governments idea of "fixing" something is to take control of it, throw money at it by forming committees of people who don't understand or have a clue about it, then blaming it on the people when the money is gone and the problem still exists

However.....

Business is booming on the Baltimore Craigslist site

many "new in the box" items bigsmile

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Wed 05/06/15 10:29 AM

Well now that everyone has been lulled into a false sense of security, I am sure those living the thug life have taken the time to scope out their next targets of opportunity.

Will there now be a cat and mouse game of costing the government money by engaging in riots to generate more overtime pay and National Guard deployments, or is everyone a little burned out (no pun intended) from their rioting to take some time off and let the system prosecute the cops?

As I predicted in previous forums, we have seen all manner of discussion now regarding the dumping of federal funds into the area to try and solve systemic issues such as chronic unemployment and youth services such as recreational centers. Known as the 'hug a thug' program, the elitists in both the black and white communities seem to think the answer is to throw up some basketball nets (kinda racist) and build a cultural center so kids can make paper mache Martin Luther King heads or kwanzaa decorations. (Again kinda racist) I've seen programs where tens of thousands are spent for recording equipment and now everyone thinks they'll be the next Puff Daddy or 2Chainz. Problem is they can't all be famous.

Seems all they want to do is distract the kids instead of educate them. Try some incentivizing. If your whole school gets improved marks on average every 3 months lets say, it gets something like computers or AV equipment or books, or art supplies. THEN once we've established the relationship, learned some things, and rewarded successes, we can give the kids the more fun stuff.

Since the area is economically strapped how about we put the locals to work fixing up the hood? You get cash, you get food stamps, you get subsidized health care if you work. Seems reasonable. These people say they are not treated fairly, well step up Boo Boo. Here's your chance to be just like middle class whitey. You get to be a wage slave like the rest of us.


Well said, Mikey laugh
:thumbsup:

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Wed 05/06/15 10:32 AM


Business is booming on the Baltimore Craigslist site

many "new in the box" items bigsmile

laugh
I heard that you can get food stamp cards 30 cents on the dollar.
ain't socialism great.

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Wed 05/06/15 10:41 AM


Governments idea of "fixing" something is to take control of it, throw money at it by forming committees of people who don't understand or have a clue about it, then blaming it on the people when the money is gone and the problem still exists

However.....

Business is booming on the Baltimore Craigslist site

many "new in the box" items bigsmile

sold by Undocumented Shoppers?bigsmile

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Wed 05/06/15 10:43 AM



Governments idea of "fixing" something is to take control of it, throw money at it by forming committees of people who don't understand or have a clue about it, then blaming it on the people when the money is gone and the problem still exists

However.....

Business is booming on the Baltimore Craigslist site

many "new in the box" items bigsmile

sold by Undocumented Shoppers?bigsmile


It's the form of capitalism.happy

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Wed 05/06/15 11:32 AM
Baltimore Maryland mayor,yesterday

video.fox.com/v/25531

Reverend All Sharpton & President Barrack Obama

http:// video. fox.news com./v// eagle rising.com/18069/all/sharpton-agrees-with-obama-calls-for-
unconstitutional-nationalized-
police-force/

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Wed 05/06/15 01:25 PM

Baltimore Maryland mayor,yesterday

video.fox.com/v/25531

Reverend All Sharpton & President Barrack Obama

http:// video. fox.news com./v// eagle rising.com/18069/all/sharpton-agrees-with-obama-calls-for-
unconstitutional-nationalized-
police-force/

federalized police force will have more accountability? my @$$ look at the DEA and the secret service. lots of accountability on their part. have a giant sex party with hookers get a week or two paid suspension. get shitfaced and smash your car into the white house gates and your boss just covers it up. and they think it will lead to more accountability, give me a break!

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Wed 05/06/15 01:32 PM


Baltimore Maryland mayor,yesterday

video.fox.com/v/25531

Reverend All Sharpton & President Barrack Obama

http:// video. fox.news com./v// eagle rising.com/18069/all/sharpton-agrees-with-obama-calls-for-
unconstitutional-nationalized-
police-force/

federalized police force will have more accountability? my @$$ look at the DEA and the secret service. lots of accountability on their part. have a giant sex party with hookers get a week or two paid suspension. get shitfaced and smash your car into the white house gates and your boss just covers it up. and they think it will lead to more accountability, give me a break!


NO false sense of security here.
There hasn't been.. not since Freddie Gray was picked up.
Even when it's quite. It is TOO damn quiet. * Brought to from the Twilight Zone " sad

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Wed 05/06/15 06:49 PM
Well this whole 'spy plane' kerfuffle is heating up now. These twin engined turbo-prop planes which are outfitted with electronic gear to 'hoover' up all the electronic signals intelligence it can find. Cellular traffic, text messages, wi-fi traffic, walkie talkies, you name it, they can record it.

Targeted and trapped calls on specific lines to record individual calls can be executed from these platforms. When the U.S. and Colombian governments were searching for Pablo Escobar these types of aircraft were being deployed by Christians In Action, No Such Agency, and various military alphabet intel teams.

The questions being asked regarding Baltimore is who ran those flights, what info was gathered, and who will be able to use it? If the cops were trying to ID looters, but instead intercepted a text message about a drug deal, could they open an investigation on it? Maybe get a warrant citing an anonymous source and kick the door in and bust the guy?

Kinda shady. Using intel platforms to develop info on people that have previously eluded them, or may not even have been known to police? Hmmmmm


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Wed 05/06/15 06:54 PM

Well this whole 'spy plane' kerfuffle is heating up now. These twin engined turbo-prop planes which are outfitted with electronic gear to 'hoover' up all the electronic signals intelligence it can find. Cellular traffic, text messages, wi-fi traffic, walkie talkies, you name it, they can record it.

Targeted and trapped calls on specific lines to record individual calls can be executed from these platforms. When the U.S. and Colombian governments were searching for Pablo Escobar these types of aircraft were being deployed by Christians In Action, No Such Agency, and various military alphabet intel teams.

The questions being asked regarding Baltimore is who ran those flights, what info was gathered, and who will be able to use it? If the cops were trying to ID looters, but instead intercepted a text message about a drug deal, could they open an investigation on it? Maybe get a warrant citing an anonymous source and kick the door in and bust the guy?

Kinda shady. Using intel platforms to develop info on people that have previously eluded them, or may not even have been known to police? Hmmmmm



thats why im very against government snooping. its not a question of will it be abused, its a question of when it will be abused.

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Thu 05/07/15 07:51 AM


Well this whole 'spy plane' kerfuffle is heating up now. These twin engined turbo-prop planes which are outfitted with electronic gear to 'hoover' up all the electronic signals intelligence it can find. Cellular traffic, text messages, wi-fi traffic, walkie talkies, you name it, they can record it.

Targeted and trapped calls on specific lines to record individual calls can be executed from these platforms. When the U.S. and Colombian governments were searching for Pablo Escobar these types of aircraft were being deployed by Christians In Action, No Such Agency, and various military alphabet intel teams.

The questions being asked regarding Baltimore is who ran those flights, what info was gathered, and who will be able to use it? If the cops were trying to ID looters, but instead intercepted a text message about a drug deal, could they open an investigation on it? Maybe get a warrant citing an anonymous source and kick the door in and bust the guy?

Kinda shady. Using intel platforms to develop info on people that have previously eluded them, or may not even have been known to police? Hmmmmm



thats why im very against government snooping. its not a question of will it be abused, its a question of when it will be abused.


It is a question of WHEN. How many times have we heard that (any kind of) technology, is for our own protection, our own good, to benefit humanity ... and only used for ONE purpose? *rhetorical*

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Thu 05/07/15 07:58 AM
On April 27th,2015- a Memphis based television station, WHBQ (Fox 13) published a photograph depicting a fire in Baltimore ( Freddie Gray- riots) to their F*c*book page. The fire was apparently in VENEZUELA. grumble

http://now.snopes.com/2015/05/04 fox-news-fake-baltmore-riot/

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Fri 05/08/15 03:15 PM
FBI admits to surveillance./ Secret Air Force.

Reuters
rt.com/usa/25677-fbi-surveillance-baltimore-protests/

American Civil Liberties Union

Ars Technical (Secret air force)
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/05/the-fbis-secert-air-force-watched-the-streets-of-baltimore/