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Topic: The White Horse of Revelation
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Thu 04/23/15 08:20 AM
The White Horse of Revelation is a great religious system stretching from Genesis to Revelation. This system has survived through history and allied itself to the Roman Empire at the council of Nicaea by calling itself Christian. By adopting a few Christian practices it looks Christian and pretends to follow Christ. In reality it persecuted the Sabbath keeping Christians unmercifully after is got into power. It became a powerful organization (Babylon the Great ) spawning thousands of Churches who came out in protest, but kept most of the doctrine.
Revelation 17:5
And on her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.


Christ warned of false teaching. Thousands of churches preaching to millions of people that Christ is the Messiah, but they don’t preach his message.

Matthew 24:5
For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.
Mark 13:6
Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many.

Millions of people praying to Christ, praising his name but totally deceived. Is this possible?
Mathew 7: 22-24
22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

What does Babylon teach? What does the bible teach?

Babylon = You have an immortal soul that goes to heaven or hell when you die.
The Bible = You are mortal. There is nothing immortal in you. Immortality is a gift from god that you have to earn.
John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven— the Son of Man.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.


Babylon = Ministers should be exalted and have fancy names; Reverend, Father, Teacher, Rabbi, Vicar of God
The Bible = Ministers should be humble servants, not to be exalted. Look to Christ.
Mathew 23 :6-11
6 They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, 7 greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ 8 But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ,[a] and you are all brethren. 9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10 And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. 11 But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant.

Babylon = Accept Jesus get instant clearance to heaven
The Bible = You must keep the commandments of God to earn salvation.

Babylon = Sabbath has been changed to Sunday or was nailed to the cross
The Bible = Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy

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Fri 04/24/15 06:32 PM
Are You sure it's a White Horse and not a Beast with Seven Heads and Ten Horns ?

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Fri 04/24/15 06:45 PM

Are You sure it's a White Horse and not a Beast with Seven Heads and Ten Horns ?


CORRECT :angel:

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Sat 04/25/15 08:39 AM
From what I have read, the White Horse is the religious system that started with Nimrod. Babylon the Great and the Beast are not the same thing. Babylon the Great has been around a lot longer than the Beast. The Beast of Revelation is the fourth Kingdom of a series of Kingdoms that started at the time of Daniel. Daniel 7:17 Babylonian, Persian, Greek and finally Roman. It has ten horns (ten revivals)
The religious system (Babylon the Great) made an image of the beast. A parallel government. The head of this system was to be worshiped like a god, same as the Roman government.

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Sat 04/25/15 12:08 PM
Well...

Leave it to Nimrod to Pimp-That-Ride !

glasses "Yo... ! That White Horse Is Righteous !"

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Sat 04/25/15 08:14 PM

Are You sure it's a White Horse and not a Beast with Seven Heads and Ten Horns ?


I think the Beast is pretty well spelled out in Daniel.

Nebuchadnezzar dreamed of a great statue.
Daniel explained what the statue represented. Daniel 2:36-46
The man like statue, represented Kingdoms who ruled then, and in the future.
Head of gold = Babylonian Empire
Shoulders of Silver = Persian Empire
Waist of Bronze = Greek Empire
Legs of iron= Roman Empire
Feet of Iron and clay = (10 of them) Roman Empire mixed with Religion
(At times called the Holy Roman Empire) = Vandals, Heruli, Ostrogoths, Justinian, Charlemagne, Otto the Great, Hapsburg Dynasty, Napoleon, Garibaldi/Mussolini,
These kingdom’s were also called beasts. Daniel 7:17-24
The last of the kingdoms hasn’t been formed yet.. The Beast (kingdom) that was, and is not and will ascend out of the bottomless pit. Rev 17:8-11
The rock that smashed the statue to pieces is The Kingdom of God.

The last beast (kingdom) will cause unimaginable horror. If Christ doesn’t return there would be no flesh saved. Mathew 24:22

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Sat 04/25/15 11:10 PM
IMO

Babylon of old is not the Babylon of today. Several marks are told about the Babylon that is here.

1 She is a great Trader.

2 Who trades with her she makes rich.

and just a 3rd thought who can make war with her? Just IMO

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Sun 04/26/15 07:27 AM
I have to disagree with you. I think it is the same old system, bent on power and control. The only difference is that now it is wrapped in the cloak of "Christianity". Have you read the books Babylonian Mystery Religion / Ralph Woodrow or
The Two Babylons /Alexander Hislop ? I think they are very well researched.
Babylon is the Harlot that rides the beast, not the beast itself, the Beast is the Roman Empire.

Revelation 17:7
When I saw her, I was greatly astonished. 7 Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast, which
Revelation 13:4
People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”




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Sun 04/26/15 06:03 PM
Actually, it could very well be argued that Babylon The Great and the metaphorical Harlot of Revelations are the same superlative for False Religion.

The Book Of Mormon first expresses the idea of the 'Wayward Church' as being this Harlot. (Cowboy GH, Should Love This)

And, latter-on Jehovah's Witnesses plagiarized the idea and it's still used extensively by the Watch Tower Society to this day.

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Sat 05/02/15 07:33 AM
Rev 6: 1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.



Rev 19: 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

who is who?

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Sat 05/02/15 08:22 AM
The first white horse is a religious system masquerading as Christian. They preach all about Christ and pretend to be Christian ministers.
2 Corinthians 13
For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light
2 Peter 2:1
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.
Matthew 7:15
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
Matthew 24:11
and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
Matthew 24:24
For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
2 Corinthians 11:13
For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Matthew 24:5
For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.
Mark 13:6
Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many.

The second white horse is the real Christ. We need to be careful not to be fooled.


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Sat 05/02/15 08:37 AM
Interesting Point, Milesoftheusa...

While the metaphorical Lamb that opens the seal is unarguably Jesus...

It does beckon the question as-to 'who' is the one on the white horse and is carrying a Bow ?

Could this be Mohammad in keeping with a common ancestor Ishmael and his renowned ability as an Archer ?

(Genesis 21: 17-21) + (Habakkuk 3: 3)

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Sat 05/02/15 09:02 AM
Sheik
Isn't Habakkuk 2 and Zephaniah 1 both referring to the "Day of the Lord"? I would assume Habakkuk 3 is also.
I think that would be the last white horse. The second coming of Christ.
Are you saying the first white horse may be a clash between the descendants of Ishmael and the rest of the world?

Islam Vs Christianity

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Sat 05/02/15 09:17 AM
I'd say that the second coming of Christ is still only pertinent to Jesus and the Last Day, but there's no doubt in my mind that the verse at Habakkuk 3: 3, is about Mohammad.

People assume it about Christianity VS Islam, but it's more like Islam is Christianity's own ultimate extension and fulfillment.

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Sat 05/02/15 09:23 AM
Do you think Mohammed is a god and will return to earth as a powerful figure?

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Sat 05/02/15 09:29 AM
If Mohammad is to return to Earth it is only by leave of the One Almighty God.

Mohammad isn't a god, and neither Moses or Jesus would seek to rival The Almighty, either.

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Sat 05/02/15 09:44 AM
We may disagree there. Jesus is a god. He made the world.
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

He isn't as powerful as God but is still God. Mohammed and Moses are dead. Jesus was resurrected back to life and will return to set up his kingdom at the appointed time.
This is illustrated by the statue Nebuchadnezzar dreamed of. The rock that smashed the statue is Christ ending the human governments and setting up a Godly one.

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Sat 05/02/15 11:12 AM

IMO

Babylon of old is not the Babylon of today. Several marks are told about the Babylon that is here.

1 She is a great Trader.

2 Who trades with her she makes rich.

and just a 3rd thought who can make war with her? Just IMO


Which sounds like the United States. The United States did not exist when the book was written. In the language of the time = Mystery Babylon. A country that is likened to Babylon but at the time is a mystery due to the fact the United States did not exist at the time. Does that not make sense?

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Sat 05/02/15 11:17 AM

We may disagree there. Jesus is a god. He made the world.
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

He isn't as powerful as God but is still God. Mohammed and Moses are dead. Jesus was resurrected back to life and will return to set up his kingdom at the appointed time.
This is illustrated by the statue Nebuchadnezzar dreamed of. The rock that smashed the statue is Christ ending the human governments and setting up a Godly one.



I do agree from my teachings, but have no knowledge of Islam. It takes a life time to learn a religion. Jesus the lord was resurrected and the Shroud of Turin being studied to this day which lays claim to the truth of Jesus resurrection. The shroud of turin held in the Vatican and being studied in Catholocism. I do not believe that christianity and Islam need fight. I believe Islam and Christian need come together and study together in order to figure what paths our religions cross together. They need come together peacefully.

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Sat 05/02/15 11:23 AM
The beast is here. It was spoken to me in a dream. I saw the beast rise from the sea with mine own eye. Then within a few days the beast arose in the gulf ruination of the ocean that serves so many nations. The lord spoke unto to me to let others know of this and I have. Many do not believe me but I love the lord and will tell of my dream to others as directed by the lord. there is precedence of the lord speaking through dreams. A few years later I left my body in a tunnel surrounded in color to ascend above myself in a trance like state. Fear came over me and I was returned into my body.

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