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Topic: Is Obama Iran's means to Israel's end?
Conrad_73's photo
Tue 04/21/15 11:35 AM


2old2 stated >>> partial quotation
That to me is the primary question - where is the greater need and what do we OWE ISRAEL?

mightyJoe stated >>>
anything/everything we give them... you can go off topic about other nations, it's all meaningless...

and during all the HISTORY you just mentioned, the Jews were still getting slaughtered...


Oh most certainly this is your topic/thread and I'll apologize if I've offended you but I thought we were having a conversation...sometimes they go astray with our thoughts!

No, I didn't include the years of the Jewish Genocide in those quotations - figured that we all had them pretty well embedded in our memories --- but if you have any recent data for 'Jewish Genocide'; I'd be interested as I haven't read about those figures - stats. That's why my interest and current reading has been about South Africa...but it's not of interest to you so that to is OK!

But my point and about nuclear weapons in Israel hands has yet to garner any comment from you and I've written it over 3-4 times now; you don't care that we have no valid count from Israel for how many/what type & kind of nuclear weapons they have in stock? That causes you no worries at all?


Do you have any from India,North Korea or Pakistan?

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Tue 04/21/15 11:53 AM



2old2 stated >>> partial quotation
That to me is the primary question - where is the greater need and what do we OWE ISRAEL?

mightyJoe stated >>>
anything/everything we give them... you can go off topic about other nations, it's all meaningless...

and during all the HISTORY you just mentioned, the Jews were still getting slaughtered...


Oh most certainly this is your topic/thread and I'll apologize if I've offended you but I thought we were having a conversation...sometimes they go astray with our thoughts!

No, I didn't include the years of the Jewish Genocide in those quotations - figured that we all had them pretty well embedded in our memories --- but if you have any recent data for 'Jewish Genocide'; I'd be interested as I haven't read about those figures - stats. That's why my interest and current reading has been about South Africa...but it's not of interest to you so that to is OK!

But my point and about nuclear weapons in Israel hands has yet to garner any comment from you and I've written it over 3-4 times now; you don't care that we have no valid count from Israel for how many/what type & kind of nuclear weapons they have in stock? That causes you no worries at all?


Do you have any from India,North Korea or Pakistan?


She's looking.....laugh

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/21/15 12:36 PM


2old2 stated >>> partial quotation
That to me is the primary question - where is the greater need and what do we OWE ISRAEL?

mightyJoe stated >>>
anything/everything we give them... you can go off topic about other nations, it's all meaningless...

and during all the HISTORY you just mentioned, the Jews were still getting slaughtered...


Oh most certainly this is your topic/thread and I'll apologize if I've offended you but I thought we were having a conversation...sometimes they go astray with our thoughts!

No, I didn't include the years of the Jewish Genocide in those quotations - figured that we all had them pretty well embedded in our memories --- but if you have any recent data for 'Jewish Genocide'; I'd be interested as I haven't read about those figures - stats. That's why my interest and current reading has been about South Africa...but it's not of interest to you so that to is OK!

But my point and about nuclear weapons in Israel hands has yet to garner any comment from you and I've written it over 3-4 times now; you don't care that we have no valid count from Israel for how many/what type & kind of nuclear weapons they have in stock? That causes you no worries at all?

none what so ever... why should i be? i don't to spend my time worrying about things that don't concern me...

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Tue 04/21/15 12:44 PM



2old2 stated >>> partial quotation
That to me is the primary question - where is the greater need and what do we OWE ISRAEL?

mightyJoe stated >>>
anything/everything we give them... you can go off topic about other nations, it's all meaningless...

and during all the HISTORY you just mentioned, the Jews were still getting slaughtered...


Oh most certainly this is your topic/thread and I'll apologize if I've offended you but I thought we were having a conversation...sometimes they go astray with our thoughts!

No, I didn't include the years of the Jewish Genocide in those quotations - figured that we all had them pretty well embedded in our memories --- but if you have any recent data for 'Jewish Genocide'; I'd be interested as I haven't read about those figures - stats. That's why my interest and current reading has been about South Africa...but it's not of interest to you so that to is OK!

But my point and about nuclear weapons in Israel hands has yet to garner any comment from you and I've written it over 3-4 times now; you don't care that we have no valid count from Israel for how many/what type & kind of nuclear weapons they have in stock? That causes you no worries at all?

Conrad asked >>> Do you have any from India,North Korea or Pakistan?


Any what '?' Conrad; nukes...that was covered on page 4 {look at the map and read the agenda underneath - yes they all have nukes! As for anything else --- I've given up reading minds - you might have to form a question that would allow an answer :wink:

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Tue 04/21/15 12:56 PM
2old2 stated >>> But my point and about nuclear weapons in Israel hands has yet to garner any comment from you and I've written it over 3-4 times now; you don't care that we have no valid count from Israel for how many/what type & kind of nuclear weapons they have in stock? That causes you no worries at all?


mightyJoe replied >>> none what so ever... why should i be? i don't to spend my time worrying about things that don't concern me...


And yet your entire reason for this thread is the irrational diatribe from the mind-set of the dictators from Iran that have reason to fear those 'Known NUKES' from Israel and the ugly relations that those countries have had going on between them for years!

Hmmm...perplexing your focus and way you want our president to follow your train of thought...see the confusion?

Dictators rant & rave and threaten...that's how they operate {bluff & throw smoke screens} but to fear what Israel has on hand and is very capable of using is factual! Who is the greater threat; a bunch of 'what-if's' or what is but they won't allow even the United Nations in to verify Israel's quantity --- seems rather obvious to me.

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Tue 04/21/15 01:50 PM

2old2 stated >>> But my point and about nuclear weapons in Israel hands has yet to garner any comment from you and I've written it over 3-4 times now; you don't care that we have no valid count from Israel for how many/what type & kind of nuclear weapons they have in stock? That causes you no worries at all?


mightyJoe replied >>> none what so ever... why should i be? i don't to spend my time worrying about things that don't concern me...


And yet your entire reason for this thread is the irrational diatribe from the mind-set of the dictators from Iran that have reason to fear those 'Known NUKES' from Israel and the ugly relations that those countries have had going on between them for years!

Hmmm...perplexing your focus and way you want our president to follow your train of thought...see the confusion?

Dictators rant & rave and threaten...that's how they operate {bluff & throw smoke screens} but to fear what Israel has on hand and is very capable of using is factual! Who is the greater threat; a bunch of 'what-if's' or what is but they won't allow even the United Nations in to verify Israel's quantity --- seems rather obvious to me.


nice try to spin, i'll answer that with a question... when has Israel threatened to wipe another nation off the map? If Iran wants nukes, then they should show they can grow up and quit saying these things...

Israel is responsible, maybe they have them, maybe they don't... but either way, they have never used them or threatened to use them...

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Tue 04/21/15 02:13 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Tue 04/21/15 02:15 PM


2old2 stated >>> But my point and about nuclear weapons in Israel hands has yet to garner any comment from you and I've written it over 3-4 times now; you don't care that we have no valid count from Israel for how many/what type & kind of nuclear weapons they have in stock? That causes you no worries at all?


mightyJoe replied >>> none what so ever... why should i be? i don't to spend my time worrying about things that don't concern me...


And yet your entire reason for this thread is the irrational diatribe from the mind-set of the dictators from Iran that have reason to fear those 'Known NUKES' from Israel and the ugly relations that those countries have had going on between them for years!

Hmmm...perplexing your focus and way you want our president to follow your train of thought...see the confusion?

Dictators rant & rave and threaten...that's how they operate {bluff & throw smoke screens} but to fear what Israel has on hand and is very capable of using is factual! Who is the greater threat; a bunch of 'what-if's' or what is but they won't allow even the United Nations in to verify Israel's quantity --- seems rather obvious to me.


mightyJoe stated >>>
nice try to spin, i'll answer that with a question... when has Israel threatened to wipe another nation off the map? If Iran wants nukes, then they should show they can grow up and quit saying these things...

Israel is responsible, maybe they have them, maybe they don't... but either way, they have never used them or threatened to use them...


Forgive me; I tend to forget not everyone in America has read the follow up reports about this:

'So when Netanyahu said the very next day, ��This is very good for Israel��, he wasn��t just blurting out something indiscreet, he was publicly congratulating the various agents who had worked so hard.'

9/11 and Zion: What Was Israel��s Role?
Posted by Jim Fetzer on August 22, 2012

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/22/911-and-zion-what-was-israels-role/
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Not everyone either read it or has kept it at the fore front of their memory for what happened during 911; with all the misdirection about WMD from GWB and his group!

Now you might understand why so many felt & did call the letter signing from those 47 GOP a traitorous act and having Netanyahu come speak in front of the Congress was yet another smack in the face---the man has his own agenda and we are playing puppet to his masters hand.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/21/15 02:22 PM



2old2 stated >>> But my point and about nuclear weapons in Israel hands has yet to garner any comment from you and I've written it over 3-4 times now; you don't care that we have no valid count from Israel for how many/what type & kind of nuclear weapons they have in stock? That causes you no worries at all?


mightyJoe replied >>> none what so ever... why should i be? i don't to spend my time worrying about things that don't concern me...


And yet your entire reason for this thread is the irrational diatribe from the mind-set of the dictators from Iran that have reason to fear those 'Known NUKES' from Israel and the ugly relations that those countries have had going on between them for years!

Hmmm...perplexing your focus and way you want our president to follow your train of thought...see the confusion?

Dictators rant & rave and threaten...that's how they operate {bluff & throw smoke screens} but to fear what Israel has on hand and is very capable of using is factual! Who is the greater threat; a bunch of 'what-if's' or what is but they won't allow even the United Nations in to verify Israel's quantity --- seems rather obvious to me.


mightyJoe stated >>>
nice try to spin, i'll answer that with a question... when has Israel threatened to wipe another nation off the map? If Iran wants nukes, then they should show they can grow up and quit saying these things...

Israel is responsible, maybe they have them, maybe they don't... but either way, they have never used them or threatened to use them...


Forgive me; I tend to forget not everyone in America has read the follow up reports about this:

'So when Netanyahu said the very next day, ��This is very good for Israel��, he wasn��t just blurting out something indiscreet, he was publicly congratulating the various agents who had worked so hard.'

9/11 and Zion: What Was Israel��s Role?
Posted by Jim Fetzer on August 22, 2012

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/22/911-and-zion-what-was-israels-role/
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Not everyone either read it or has kept it at the fore front of their memory for what happened during 911; with all the misdirection about WMD from GWB and his group!

Now you might understand why so many felt & did call the letter signing from those 47 GOP a traitorous act and having Netanyahu come speak in front of the Congress was yet another smack in the face---the man has his own agenda and we are playing puppet to his masters hand.



whatever, dude, i'm done with your hate speeches... go spout off on one of your hate Israel sites...

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Tue 04/21/15 02:52 PM



2old2 stated >>> But my point and about nuclear weapons in Israel hands has yet to garner any comment from you and I've written it over 3-4 times now; you don't care that we have no valid count from Israel for how many/what type & kind of nuclear weapons they have in stock? That causes you no worries at all?


mightyJoe replied >>> none what so ever... why should i be? i don't to spend my time worrying about things that don't concern me...


And yet your entire reason for this thread is the irrational diatribe from the mind-set of the dictators from Iran that have reason to fear those 'Known NUKES' from Israel and the ugly relations that those countries have had going on between them for years!

Hmmm...perplexing your focus and way you want our president to follow your train of thought...see the confusion?

Dictators rant & rave and threaten...that's how they operate {bluff & throw smoke screens} but to fear what Israel has on hand and is very capable of using is factual! Who is the greater threat; a bunch of 'what-if's' or what is but they won't allow even the United Nations in to verify Israel's quantity --- seems rather obvious to me.


mightyJoe stated >>>
nice try to spin, i'll answer that with a question... when has Israel threatened to wipe another nation off the map? If Iran wants nukes, then they should show they can grow up and quit saying these things...

Israel is responsible, maybe they have them, maybe they don't... but either way, they have never used them or threatened to use them...


Forgive me; I tend to forget not everyone in America has read the follow up reports about this:

'So when Netanyahu said the very next day, ��This is very good for Israel��, he wasn��t just blurting out something indiscreet, he was publicly congratulating the various agents who had worked so hard.'

9/11 and Zion: What Was Israel��s Role?
Posted by Jim Fetzer on August 22, 2012

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/22/911-and-zion-what-was-israels-role/
***************************
Not everyone either read it or has kept it at the fore front of their memory for what happened during 911; with all the misdirection about WMD from GWB and his group!

Now you might understand why so many felt & did call the letter signing from those 47 GOP a traitorous act and having Netanyahu come speak in front of the Congress was yet another smack in the face---the man has his own agenda and we are playing puppet to his masters hand.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

BTW,that Letter was posted on FB,NOT sent to Iran!
Jim Fetzer?
VeteransToday?
Are you really serious?:laughing:

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Tue 04/21/15 02:54 PM



2old2 stated >>> But my point and about nuclear weapons in Israel hands has yet to garner any comment from you and I've written it over 3-4 times now; you don't care that we have no valid count from Israel for how many/what type & kind of nuclear weapons they have in stock? That causes you no worries at all?


mightyJoe replied >>> none what so ever... why should i be? i don't to spend my time worrying about things that don't concern me...


And yet your entire reason for this thread is the irrational diatribe from the mind-set of the dictators from Iran that have reason to fear those 'Known NUKES' from Israel and the ugly relations that those countries have had going on between them for years!

Hmmm...perplexing your focus and way you want our president to follow your train of thought...see the confusion?

Dictators rant & rave and threaten...that's how they operate {bluff & throw smoke screens} but to fear what Israel has on hand and is very capable of using is factual! Who is the greater threat; a bunch of 'what-if's' or what is but they won't allow even the United Nations in to verify Israel's quantity --- seems rather obvious to me.


mightyJoe stated >>>
nice try to spin, i'll answer that with a question... when has Israel threatened to wipe another nation off the map? If Iran wants nukes, then they should show they can grow up and quit saying these things...

Israel is responsible, maybe they have them, maybe they don't... but either way, they have never used them or threatened to use them...


Forgive me; I tend to forget not everyone in America has read the follow up reports about this:

'So when Netanyahu said the very next day, ��This is very good for Israel��, he wasn��t just blurting out something indiscreet, he was publicly congratulating the various agents who had worked so hard.'

9/11 and Zion: What Was Israel��s Role?
Posted by Jim Fetzer on August 22, 2012

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/22/911-and-zion-what-was-israels-role/
***************************
Not everyone either read it or has kept it at the fore front of their memory for what happened during 911; with all the misdirection about WMD from GWB and his group!

Now you might understand why so many felt & did call the letter signing from those 47 GOP a traitorous act and having Netanyahu come speak in front of the Congress was yet another smack in the face---the man has his own agenda and we are playing puppet to his masters hand.



Not everyone in America is a nutjob conspiracy theorist..

James Fetzer...... That is phucking funny...

I'm beginning to think you are AlNewman...




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Tue 04/21/15 02:55 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 04/21/15 02:56 PM




2old2 stated >>> But my point and about nuclear weapons in Israel hands has yet to garner any comment from you and I've written it over 3-4 times now; you don't care that we have no valid count from Israel for how many/what type & kind of nuclear weapons they have in stock? That causes you no worries at all?


mightyJoe replied >>> none what so ever... why should i be? i don't to spend my time worrying about things that don't concern me...


And yet your entire reason for this thread is the irrational diatribe from the mind-set of the dictators from Iran that have reason to fear those 'Known NUKES' from Israel and the ugly relations that those countries have had going on between them for years!

Hmmm...perplexing your focus and way you want our president to follow your train of thought...see the confusion?

Dictators rant & rave and threaten...that's how they operate {bluff & throw smoke screens} but to fear what Israel has on hand and is very capable of using is factual! Who is the greater threat; a bunch of 'what-if's' or what is but they won't allow even the United Nations in to verify Israel's quantity --- seems rather obvious to me.


mightyJoe stated >>>
nice try to spin, i'll answer that with a question... when has Israel threatened to wipe another nation off the map? If Iran wants nukes, then they should show they can grow up and quit saying these things...

Israel is responsible, maybe they have them, maybe they don't... but either way, they have never used them or threatened to use them...


Forgive me; I tend to forget not everyone in America has read the follow up reports about this:

'So when Netanyahu said the very next day, ��This is very good for Israel��, he wasn��t just blurting out something indiscreet, he was publicly congratulating the various agents who had worked so hard.'

9/11 and Zion: What Was Israel��s Role?
Posted by Jim Fetzer on August 22, 2012

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/22/911-and-zion-what-was-israels-role/
***************************
Not everyone either read it or has kept it at the fore front of their memory for what happened during 911; with all the misdirection about WMD from GWB and his group!

Now you might understand why so many felt & did call the letter signing from those 47 GOP a traitorous act and having Netanyahu come speak in front of the Congress was yet another smack in the face---the man has his own agenda and we are playing puppet to his masters hand.



Not everyone in America is a nutjob conspiracy theorist..

James Fetzer...... That is phucking funny...

I'm beginning to think you are AlNewman...




laugh
acute TDS!

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Tue 04/21/15 03:26 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Tue 04/21/15 03:27 PM

2old2messaround stated >>>

Forgive me; I tend to forget not everyone in America has read the follow up reports about this:

'So when Netanyahu said the very next day, ��This is very good for Israel��, he wasn��t just blurting out something indiscreet, he was publicly congratulating the various agents who had worked so hard.'

9/11 and Zion: What Was Israel��s Role?
Posted by Jim Fetzer on August 22, 2012

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/22/911-and-zion-what-was-israels-role/
***************************
Not everyone either read it or has kept it at the fore front of their memory for what happened during 911; with all the misdirection about WMD from GWB and his group!

Now you might understand why so many felt & did call the letter signing from those 47 GOP a traitorous act and having Netanyahu come speak in front of the Congress was yet another smack in the face---the man has his own agenda and we are playing puppet to his masters hand.


mightyJoe stated >>> whatever, dude, i'm done with your hate speeches... go spout off on one of your hate Israel sites...


Hmmm, now that's sad; I've not once used that word - NOPE - NEVER HAVE and yet I can understand your frustration. I too don't like being played a fool and allowing Netanyahu to lead our GOP around by their collective noses is rather humiliating IMHO gives all Americans a real black eye!!!

BTW - for those cheering sections that have little to add to this thread; there are plenty of links/data/info out there about Israel's part in the 911 attack...just a matter of Google/Bing/search would provide the information --- pretty easy-peasy! But I'll understand the lack of follow up...really - I will. laugh :wink: drinker

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/21/15 06:28 PM


2old2messaround stated >>>

Forgive me; I tend to forget not everyone in America has read the follow up reports about this:

'So when Netanyahu said the very next day, ��This is very good for Israel��, he wasn��t just blurting out something indiscreet, he was publicly congratulating the various agents who had worked so hard.'

9/11 and Zion: What Was Israel��s Role?
Posted by Jim Fetzer on August 22, 2012

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/22/911-and-zion-what-was-israels-role/
***************************
Not everyone either read it or has kept it at the fore front of their memory for what happened during 911; with all the misdirection about WMD from GWB and his group!

Now you might understand why so many felt & did call the letter signing from those 47 GOP a traitorous act and having Netanyahu come speak in front of the Congress was yet another smack in the face---the man has his own agenda and we are playing puppet to his masters hand.


mightyJoe stated >>> whatever, dude, i'm done with your hate speeches... go spout off on one of your hate Israel sites...


Hmmm, now that's sad; I've not once used that word - NOPE - NEVER HAVE and yet I can understand your frustration. I too don't like being played a fool and allowing Netanyahu to lead our GOP around by their collective noses is rather humiliating IMHO gives all Americans a real black eye!!!

BTW - for those cheering sections that have little to add to this thread; there are plenty of links/data/info out there about Israel's part in the 911 attack...just a matter of Google/Bing/search would provide the information --- pretty easy-peasy! But I'll understand the lack of follow up...really - I will. laugh :wink: drinker


Netanyahu is a brilliant leader, the GOP understands this... they are actually smart enough to listen, while the stupid democrats can't seem to get a clue as to whats going on...Obarry especially, he's just not quite smart enough understand how the world works...

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Tue 04/21/15 06:30 PM
Israel's part in the 911 attack? Now thats funny.:laughing:
One thing about CT'ers, they come up with some funny chit.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/21/15 06:37 PM

Israel's part in the 911 attack? Now thats funny.:laughing:
One thing about CT'ers, they come up with some funny chit.



they read it from other haters, they don't come up with anything on their own...


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Tue 04/21/15 06:47 PM
Edited by Happiness2U on Tue 04/21/15 06:48 PM
Did any of you watch the link I posted on the other thread?
Here it is again for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5mu79ygShs

How many on your congress have dual Israeli/American citizenship?

Beware of your so called allies.

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Tue 04/21/15 06:56 PM


Israel's part in the 911 attack? Now thats funny.:laughing:
One thing about CT'ers, they come up with some funny chit.



they read it from other haters, they don't come up with anything on their own...



Your right, remember Jenniebean? she was a real case.laugh

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Tue 04/21/15 06:59 PM


Israel's part in the 911 attack? Now thats funny.:laughing:
One thing about CT'ers, they come up with some funny chit.


mightymoe stated >>>
they read it from other haters, they don't come up with anything on their own...


Well, this has gone the way that proves how angry humans can get when they aren't able to discuss facts and points without vitriolic name calling! I'll with draw and hope that you'd understand; I don't call you names - I don't read other peoples Opinions just to quote what they THINK --- I do the research and I provide the links - I don't ridicule you - nor do I lower the conversation by being nothing more than a sideline cheerleader in an attempt to humiliate and degrade you! Odd how I assumed you might be able to handle an adult discussion without all this ugly angst and behavior but sadly I'm wrong! Carry On!!! waving

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/21/15 08:04 PM



Israel's part in the 911 attack? Now thats funny.:laughing:
One thing about CT'ers, they come up with some funny chit.


mightymoe stated >>>
they read it from other haters, they don't come up with anything on their own...


Well, this has gone the way that proves how angry humans can get when they aren't able to discuss facts and points without vitriolic name calling! I'll with draw and hope that you'd understand; I don't call you names - I don't read other peoples Opinions just to quote what they THINK --- I do the research and I provide the links - I don't ridicule you - nor do I lower the conversation by being nothing more than a sideline cheerleader in an attempt to humiliate and degrade you! Odd how I assumed you might be able to handle an adult discussion without all this ugly angst and behavior but sadly I'm wrong! Carry On!!! waving


i don't listen to people who hate... go have your adult conversation with someone that hates jews, so yall can hate together...

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/21/15 08:06 PM



Israel's part in the 911 attack? Now thats funny.:laughing:
One thing about CT'ers, they come up with some funny chit.



they read it from other haters, they don't come up with anything on their own...



Your right, remember Jenniebean? she was a real case.laugh


it's funny how they can't admit the hate they spread... but oh well, they have a right to hate whatever they want, even tho it is just stupidity....

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