I feel if the record companies would actually scope out REAL talent instead of tits and ass then we could get CDS that have more than one decent song on them.Back in the day bands made awesome albums.Now the music is **** and they charge big bucks to see no talent lip synchers.Downloading a song is not as criminal as ripping off the public with high ticket sales,mediocre talent and crappy CDS.

it really has gotten out of hand
don't think it will change anytime soon

I agree, Cutelittledevilsmom ,

This may be a shock to some, and I'll probably get hate posts for it, but nowhere will you find more examples of the "tits and ass are the only thing that matters, screw talent" mentality than in Country Music. Sex sells, and you'll see more scantily-clad skanks in country music videos than you will in any other. And has anyone noticed that the guys in country now, for the most part, all sound alike? There are exceptions like Toby Keith, but a lot of the guys are simply cookie-cutter performers made with the same mold.

Ok, there's my rant. I await the hate posts.

But I do love the old country music(you know, the songs about whiskey-drinkin' and ass-whoopin'). Seriously.

knox you are right on.i miss johnny cash god rest his soul.

cutelittledevilsmom writes:

" I feel if the record companies would actually scope out REAL talent instead of tits and ass then we could get CDS that have more than one decent song on them.Back in the day bands made awesome albums.Now the music is **** and they charge big bucks to see no talent lip synchers.Downloading a song is not as criminal as ripping off the public with high ticket sales,mediocre talent and crappy CDS. "

I don't disagree that the record companies do some pretty evil things (read:Sony's putting rootkits on peoples' hard drives and their ridiculouts EULA), but I really wish KAZAA and their ilk were forced to shutdown. There are other, _legal_ ways to force the record companies to engage in more ethical behaviour than trying to steal them out of business.

The artists, for the most part, are making middle class livings. I think that, by itself, is why the talent coefficient of the product is slipping badly. And downloading will only make that problem worse, as the record companies try to chisel even more off their costs by shortchanging the artists.

What really needs to happen is some mechanism for 'micro-payments' to be available to people with a minimum of fuss and security risks, so that a creative commons type structure can deliver new product over the Internet with a 'pass the hat', pay-as-you-go compensation model. Hopefully, that would be a competing model with the one we have now that tends to be top heavy with management and middlemen.

-Kerry O.

stealing is stealing... get over it people. When i work i expect to get paid. if someone steals materials off a job site, i take the hit. IF They want to make a lot of money with thier music. so what? this is America, is it not?

Stealing is wrong period.!!!!!!!!

Good for the record companies.

well record it off the radio

then rip it if ya need it so bad

being in the business

i get promo cds

so that helps a little

but some of them are poor to

its bad when ya get a promo cd w 18-20 songs

and only a couple good ones

it is a sad think that talent is so limited

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i guess the good ones wont put out like the bad ones

just a thought

but hey what do i know

knox

not yelling at ya

but i used to get promo dvd music videos

yer not correct with that statement

the pop and hip are right there to

i quit getting them for that reason

who wants to go to a wedding and see music videos

of nearly naked people

shaking what they have so close to the camera

that ya think they are in your face

but hey what do i know

adj4u ,

Not yelling back at you, my friend,

but I never said they weren't in rap 'n' hip hop or even rock.

It just seems that Country has found out that sex sells,
and is making up for lost time. And it's just not half-dressed women in those videos, either.

Rumor has it that there's a guy who lives in Nashville,TN, that's a better country singer than anyone currently active today. Record companies readily admit this, but none will even attempt to sign him.

Why?

Because the singer in question weighs well in excess of 300 lbs.

Image is everything in music. Talent? Not important. Deborah Norville did a story on Inside Edition once about "sound sweetning" in the recording industry. Norville, who by her own admission, is a really bad singer, demonstrated how the sweetning in the studio turned her singing into a thing of beauty.

Maybe that tennis bozo was right. Image IS everything.

most defiantly

why do you think they lip sync

in public


hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

pay 100 + and to listen to there cd

imagine that

interesting concept

think it goes at least as far back as boston

but hey what do i know

The music industry pretty much shot themselves in the foot tho. They are going around acting like bullies and the whiny "artists" who are paid millions are looking like cry babies.

Honestly, why pay $20 for 10 songs when you can download all you want for free?

why get a job and work

if someone will steal it anyway

or why build a dog house

if you can go out at night and get one

why buy gas

when you can siphon it from another's vehicle

Doing all those requires me getting up and actually leaving the house, but stealing music is pretty easy, just open a program and start downloading. Also all money they are suing for is so outrageous and its ruining people's lives. But what do they care, they are rich

I can see everybody's point. But one thing that irritates me
is a group like my guys Restless Heart who had pretty good
success in the mid 80's to mid 90's and are back together
again with ALL five members are out there touring and have
done a live CD which they had never done before, and it is out
now, but the talent they have an the great songs they have,
no major record label has signed them to a recording contract.
RCA was their former label. What is wrong with these people.
Their music is great and their harmonies are awesome. If you
like the Eagles, you will love Restless Heart. They went
through their changes of spliting up and all, and now, they
are together celebrating 25 years together and they deserve a
chance at making it on radio and the charts. And by the way.
They have never done lip syncing at thier shows. What you
hear and see, is what you pay for. They have worked long and
hard for their status in the music industry. But have very
few CMA awards and ACM awards to show for it. The compititon
is so hard out there.
About the copywriting thing. The ones that tape them and
try to fix them like the real thing should be the ones
getting all the fines. I bought one of Vince Gill at a
Flea Market once and the print was smudgy. Copied

Ya'll have a great day.

I have the uninformed impression that the record companies get the bulk of earnings from copywrited music. Probably the musicians get the smallest share. So the record companies' draconian collection practices seems to me to benefit them rather than the artists.

For that reason I'm in synch with Kerry's last couple paragraphs.

I get the feeling that some conduit for payment to musicians directly attributable to online file sharing and downloading could benefit artists and accommodate the public as well. Even very small payments could add up to a lot with large volume downloads.

I don't particularly like the I-tunes/Apple virtual monopoly on music exchange so some alternative would be attractive.

okay, okay...

i find absolutely nothing unethical about my downloading music. it's the same music i hear on the radio...the same artists...just on my computer.

i've hurt absolutely no one, as i wouldn't have purchased the cd in the first place. they haven't lost a single penny on me...

call it morally wrong, if you must...call it "stealing". but in order for it to be unethical, there has to be someone harmed from the action...there has to be a negative. *shrugs* i could see if i were downloading INSTEAD of buying; then the record companies have lost a customer. i'm too damned poor to waste my money on cds.

well

if you are gonna say that lulu

ok ready for this

yer not gonna believe it

i know yer not

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