Where did it get it's start,how dose The Illuminatti fit into it and why is america hell bent on going that way?

you post here just to see how long it will last??

The Question is not a current event,it is historical in nature and semi non-offensive.

I mean it's as Bland as Oatmeal.

no votes so far yay!!

Subject too deep for my shallow waters, bro

Yhats OK, there is a Day tripper that calls himself The Communist, I expect that he will be all over this like a dirty shirt.

I want to say 1772, but I feel that it must be much older than that...

Says its a card game??

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Are the Illuminati and the Masons connected? Here's some information to help you decide. ... "Illuminati, Greek illumination, name given to those who submitted ...

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You can get the book on it at the Ocult Magic book store...

Socialistic ideas can be traced back to Plato's (427-347 BC) Republic, and English Statesman Sir Thomas More's (1478-1535) Utopia in 1516. Plato envisioned a society where marriage would be eliminated, all women would belong to all men, and all men would belong to all women. Women would be equal to men, working and fighting wars side by side. All children would be raised by the state. There would be a tri-level society consisting of the ruling class, the military class, and the working class. Private property would be eliminated, and the intellectuals would determine what was best for the lower classes.

Francois Emile Babeuf (1760-97), was a member of the Illuminati (his pseudonym was 'Gracchus'), and as such, his social views reflected those of Weishaupt's. He formed a Masonic-like association of disciples called Babouvistes, who advocated violence as a means of achieving reform. They met at the dining hall of the Abbey, and sometimes in the crypt. The location of the building, which was near the Pantheon, led to the name of the Order, which was known as the Pantheonistes. The group, at its peak, had about 2,000 members.

http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/final_warning/origin_of_communism_and_marxism.htm

Yes, the Masons are Very LOW Level Illuminatti serfs, most Masons however do not know there is any connection.

My Gandfather,My Father and mt older Brother were all Level 32 Masons and they know nothing of The Illuminatti.

I know a great deal,because I have done the research and they did once unvite me to join.

I thought long and hard abut winning every time, but I said NO!

I earn my money, I'm not a snitch and I take my lumps like a man, Not a cheating little girlyman.

Can answer the first part.
The first known writing about the idea of communism was written by Plato around 400 BC.

Didn't see yor reply Catchme.
Went to you link and skimmed through.
Interesting reading.

As I understand it Communisum was the first form of Government used by The American Forfathers,but it was a total failure,because there was No was to make any money.

So America commited it's first cardinal SIN,by Printing it's own money.

America Commited it's second Cardinal SIN by switching to The Capitalist System and that system has worked very well ever since or at least untill The Euorpean Illuminatti Blessed us with The Federal Reserve System, where they print money out of thin air,Loan it to the american Government and tax the people on the intrest,this was a Communist Plank of The Central Bank.

nothing like school on my day off!!!

Our forfathers were NOT communists...

Our ForFathers were NOT Communist,as The European Illuminatti has transformed Communisem to be today.
But they did first try a Comunal Life Style and it Failed.

Are there NO Communist's to tell me about Communisem?

can i just

lol

if everything could fuse

we might find utopia

OK,
But Utopia need not Political Science, as Utopia is eternal bliss, untill things start getting crouded.

The American Republic was a Utopia, untill Democracy reared it's ugly head.
For 50 years America has fought Comunism,only to have become Communist from within through our schools.

Now that The Illuminatti Banksters have Finabcially Concured Planet Terra/Earth a Tarnical Communist State is being forced down upon us all, well actually on you people because I'm going to die...