but but but.....I thought Obozo killed OBL!?

He said he did and you know he wouldn't lie!

yep,totally in charge,after being dragged in from the Golf-Course?



how did that go again?



and I thunk Detroit was dead too!

While I am not psychic, I would say the biggest threat to this man and his family would come from terrorist organizations retaliating. His brethren, while annoyed, would generally pose no threat of violence. These men, typically, are more loyal to each other than they are the U.S. Government. There are always exceptions to the rule though. But brass often gets irritated with the fact that these guys don't blindly follow orders.

I can't help but see irony in an administration getting upset with a man for talking about the same raid they, themselves, televised in detail.

Did this former SEAL even mention why he came forward? Just seems a bit odd to me that so many are speaking out like this. Perhaps a way to claim fame?

You are wrong on a few things. They most certainly care who is in the White House being over 80% of men and women in uniform HATE that SOB.

Obama did screw up. A third team should have seen sent in, a lot of intelligence was left behind and we should have blown the house to the ISI and Al Qaeda had no clue of what we recovered. Plus Obama couldn't wait to get on the news and announce we found a treasure trove of intelligence, videos, computers, discs, letters etc. that he couldn't wait to tell the press during an election year and basically make all that information worthless. Another rookie move by our Fuhrer.

Actually he was out playing spades with his low level staffers for most of it. Shows how serious this moron takes his job.

Nope, he just used his famous pen after much deliberation. He couldn't even make his mind up on it, he had to put it to a vote with his cabinet. We have an idiot in charge who cant make a decision unless it's which golf course to go to.

Don't think that the echelon doesn't keep track of these men. Oh, they do. You are never forgotten.

I believe this guy is the real deal. There have been two others make this claim and no response from Defense officials, but as soon as this guy came out they all started circling the wagons and went on the attack.

That guy put a huge target on him and his family. There are many reasons the Government (well under Obama the rules have changed, he throws them under the bus every chance he gets) never talks about them and that is one of them.

He went on Fox and spent two hours going into detail about why he decided to go public. It was to help the families with closure. The show showed several 9/11 family members crying and thanking him for what he did.

His excuse for breaking the code of science is that Obama had already broken it by identifying Seal Team Six and giving what details Obama chose to give. He also said that all the real secret missions stay secret from everyone.

Moral Culpability

The determination of who is ultimately at fault, or deserving of blame, for the commission of actions which resulted in harm or loss to others.

Culpable: "at fault; deserving of blame", from the Latin noun culpa: "fault; blame".

People just following orders, that is why they call it a totalitarian system, a police state, why do they not call it a banker state? A politician state? A lawyer state? A judge state? Because none of these people are ultimately responsible for bringing that condition into manifestation through their behavior, they are the order givers. The order-followers carry out their commands and through their behavior make that condition into reality, that's why they call it a police state. Because every police state that has existed has always been created by police that follow their orders.

Who is MORE morally culpable, order givers or order followers? This is not to say that order givers aren't morally culpable, they are. The question is who is MORE morally culpable.

Who is lying? Who is telling the truth? My actions didn't cause that, picture a father holding his dead daughter, an action of war as the "that". Then picture Odumbo, Bush, and Clinton as the first group denying causing that, then picture a group of soldiers in a war zone taking action.
Make a decision, who's lying, who's telling the truth, from the standpoint of the manifestation of the result?

The Painful Truth

The order-follower always bears more moral culpability than the order-giver, because the order-follower is the one who actually performed the action, and in taking such action, actually brought the resultant harm into physical manifestation. Order-following is the pathway to every form of evil and chaos in our world. It should never be seen as a "virtue" by anyone who considers themselves a moral human being. Order-followers have ultimately been personally responsible and morally culpable for every form of slavery and every single totalitarian regime that has ever existed upon the face of the earth.

At what point in the manifestation of the action of man will one realize that without the order-followers, there can be no order-givers?

Now do not mistaken this for the peace officer that is rightfully restoring the peace, nor the militia that is in defense of his homeland, those are moral and rightful use of action and force, the restoration of peace.

nothing is as it first seems but as little irish men know, jump to the end of the rainbow to sea time from forward to reverse, and behold there lay the shining pot-o-gold, the truth in plain site.

Can't agree to "rise". Don't think any civil being would "rise" to that level, more like shrunk. But you give the individual way too much credit, there are numerous psychopathic being that absolutely thrive on being able to kill on instruction.

Imagine being judge, jury and executioner on another because some politician told you could. Of course no questions, just follow the orders.

Now I have a lot of respect for the Seals and other elite Teams that go in harms way to prevent harm to others, but when they just become killers for the government, that is another matter.

And Black Ops, that is just pure murder with a license from psychopathic and sociopathic liars pretending to have some authority form god knows where.

But you could be right in one aspect, it was odd that it was released, not in the releasing but in just what is being hidden? And why is this "supposed" killer allowed to talk and all the others had to sign non-disclosures until they could be permanently silenced?

Disagree with you there, the place for the politician is right on the front line, lead the battle like Washington did. I guarantee you that the wars would stop very quickly knowing that if they declared war, they were going to initiate it first hand.

But to the average American sitting on home watching war footage on TV is one thing but I've been there and done that. When one you know is just down from you when he gets the the top of his head blown off by shrapnel or you carry an individual from a burning barracks and have to use an ID to cover a sucking chest wound as you carry him to the aid station is another matter. Then it becomes up close and personal and for what?

Well, I guess we are about to find out very quickly.

You mean like the Gulf of Tonkin and 50,000 soldiers with over 3 million dead and now all that care to know that the incident never happened.