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Conrad_73's photo
Wed 11/12/14 05:04 AM





OMG,Putin's Useful Ones!rofl


Nescience vs Ignorance - The context of not knowing.

Nescience

From the Latin verb nesciere: "to not know because knowledge was absent or unobtainable"

Ignorance

From the Latin verb ignorare: "to not know even though necessary information is present, because that information has been willfully refused or disregarded.

Ignorance carries blame. The masses are in a state of ignorance.

The question is why?

Truth vs Perception

Truth is objective, meaning that it is not based on perceptions of human beings (which is capable of wavering). Truth is simply that which is. It is that which has occurred in the past and that which is occurring in the present. That which is.

No such thing as truth in the future.

Perception is not reality, but our work is to align the two, truth and perception.

"I've come to realize that the biggest problem anywhere in the world is that people's perceptions of reality are compulsively filtered through the screening mesh of what they want, and do not want, to be true." - Travis Walton

So basing ones reality on a perception, that which one wants to be true or untrue can only be based in ignorance, it can't be claimed as nescience as the knowledge is not absent or unattainable, it is just being ignored.

So facts are facts and fall where they may, no matter how many times and how vehemently they are ignored.



Just paraphrasing Lenin!
No need for Obfuscation!laugh

Just make sure you buy a Roundtrip-Ticket,because you won't like it in Vlad's Realm!
Would be a Fryingpan Into the Fire Sort of thing!


I have friends who live in Russia and the US because of their business. They are Russian. To listen to them there is little difference between them other than all the PC garbage here.

There is crime in Russia, but there is also punishment. They laugh at our court system. They say the US is a haven for criminals, our prisons are like resorts and our police are laughable.


If you want a System like theirs,stop hollering about the Constitution,call for the total abolition of the Bill Of Rights instead!
But as they say,the Grass is always greener over the Septic Tank!laugh
Crony-Capitalism the likes you have never seen in the US!
Seems ally you Guys want,is a Strongman like Putin running the US!
No worry,just have a bit of Patience,Buzz Windrip ain't far!
Don't cry when you get him,remember,You Asked For It,Brother!laugh

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 11/12/14 06:34 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 11/12/14 06:42 AM






OMG,Putin's Useful Ones!rofl


Nescience vs Ignorance - The context of not knowing.

Nescience

From the Latin verb nesciere: "to not know because knowledge was absent or unobtainable"

Ignorance

From the Latin verb ignorare: "to not know even though necessary information is present, because that information has been willfully refused or disregarded.

Ignorance carries blame. The masses are in a state of ignorance.

The question is why?

Truth vs Perception

Truth is objective, meaning that it is not based on perceptions of human beings (which is capable of wavering). Truth is simply that which is. It is that which has occurred in the past and that which is occurring in the present. That which is.

No such thing as truth in the future.

Perception is not reality, but our work is to align the two, truth and perception.

"I've come to realize that the biggest problem anywhere in the world is that people's perceptions of reality are compulsively filtered through the screening mesh of what they want, and do not want, to be true." - Travis Walton

So basing ones reality on a perception, that which one wants to be true or untrue can only be based in ignorance, it can't be claimed as nescience as the knowledge is not absent or unattainable, it is just being ignored.

So facts are facts and fall where they may, no matter how many times and how vehemently they are ignored.



Just paraphrasing Lenin!
No need for Obfuscation!laugh

Just make sure you buy a Roundtrip-Ticket,because you won't like it in Vlad's Realm!
Would be a Fryingpan Into the Fire Sort of thing!


I have friends who live in Russia and the US because of their business. They are Russian. To listen to them there is little difference between them other than all the PC garbage here.

There is crime in Russia, but there is also punishment. They laugh at our court system. They say the US is a haven for criminals, our prisons are like resorts and our police are laughable.


If you want a System like theirs,stop hollering about the Constitution,call for the total abolition of the Bill Of Rights instead!
But as they say,the Grass is always greener over the Septic Tank!laugh
Crony-Capitalism the likes you have never seen in the US!
Seems ally you Guys want,is a Strongman like Putin running the US!
No worry,just have a bit of Patience,Buzz Windrip ain't far!
Don't cry when you get him,remember,You Asked For It,Brother!laugh


I've already given up on believing the US will ever get any form of constitutional leadership with bankers, their corporations, and their media calling the shots and providing corrupt politicos the idiot voters buy as "best for the country".

When the entire system is a farce what it produces can't be any better.

People today wouldn't know what rights and liberty are much less how to go about getting any, or what to do with it if they did.

I'm simply preparing for the end and hoping for a better new beginning for us to start screwing up all over again

The Days of Rome are upon us.... some kind of end is inevitable... and the chaos the will ensue

Hopefully, there's something left to build from

no photo
Wed 11/12/14 06:47 AM






OMG,Putin's Useful Ones!rofl


Nescience vs Ignorance - The context of not knowing.

Nescience

From the Latin verb nesciere: "to not know because knowledge was absent or unobtainable"

Ignorance

From the Latin verb ignorare: "to not know even though necessary information is present, because that information has been willfully refused or disregarded.

Ignorance carries blame. The masses are in a state of ignorance.

The question is why?

Truth vs Perception

Truth is objective, meaning that it is not based on perceptions of human beings (which is capable of wavering). Truth is simply that which is. It is that which has occurred in the past and that which is occurring in the present. That which is.

No such thing as truth in the future.

Perception is not reality, but our work is to align the two, truth and perception.

"I've come to realize that the biggest problem anywhere in the world is that people's perceptions of reality are compulsively filtered through the screening mesh of what they want, and do not want, to be true." - Travis Walton

So basing ones reality on a perception, that which one wants to be true or untrue can only be based in ignorance, it can't be claimed as nescience as the knowledge is not absent or unattainable, it is just being ignored.

So facts are facts and fall where they may, no matter how many times and how vehemently they are ignored.



Just paraphrasing Lenin!
No need for Obfuscation!laugh

Just make sure you buy a Roundtrip-Ticket,because you won't like it in Vlad's Realm!
Would be a Fryingpan Into the Fire Sort of thing!


I have friends who live in Russia and the US because of their business. They are Russian. To listen to them there is little difference between them other than all the PC garbage here.

There is crime in Russia, but there is also punishment. They laugh at our court system. They say the US is a haven for criminals, our prisons are like resorts and our police are laughable.


If you want a System like theirs,stop hollering about the Constitution,call for the total abolition of the Bill Of Rights instead!
But as they say,the Grass is always greener over the Septic Tank!laugh
Crony-Capitalism the likes you have never seen in the US!
Seems ally you Guys want,is a Strongman like Putin running the US!
No worry,just have a bit of Patience,Buzz Windrip ain't far!
Don't cry when you get him,remember,You Asked For It,Brother!laugh


Beware of what you ask for comrade laugh

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 11/12/14 06:57 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 11/12/14 06:57 AM







OMG,Putin's Useful Ones!rofl


Nescience vs Ignorance - The context of not knowing.

Nescience

From the Latin verb nesciere: "to not know because knowledge was absent or unobtainable"

Ignorance

From the Latin verb ignorare: "to not know even though necessary information is present, because that information has been willfully refused or disregarded.

Ignorance carries blame. The masses are in a state of ignorance.

The question is why?

Truth vs Perception

Truth is objective, meaning that it is not based on perceptions of human beings (which is capable of wavering). Truth is simply that which is. It is that which has occurred in the past and that which is occurring in the present. That which is.

No such thing as truth in the future.

Perception is not reality, but our work is to align the two, truth and perception.

"I've come to realize that the biggest problem anywhere in the world is that people's perceptions of reality are compulsively filtered through the screening mesh of what they want, and do not want, to be true." - Travis Walton

So basing ones reality on a perception, that which one wants to be true or untrue can only be based in ignorance, it can't be claimed as nescience as the knowledge is not absent or unattainable, it is just being ignored.

So facts are facts and fall where they may, no matter how many times and how vehemently they are ignored.



Just paraphrasing Lenin!
No need for Obfuscation!laugh

Just make sure you buy a Roundtrip-Ticket,because you won't like it in Vlad's Realm!
Would be a Fryingpan Into the Fire Sort of thing!


I have friends who live in Russia and the US because of their business. They are Russian. To listen to them there is little difference between them other than all the PC garbage here.

There is crime in Russia, but there is also punishment. They laugh at our court system. They say the US is a haven for criminals, our prisons are like resorts and our police are laughable.


If you want a System like theirs,stop hollering about the Constitution,call for the total abolition of the Bill Of Rights instead!
But as they say,the Grass is always greener over the Septic Tank!laugh
Crony-Capitalism the likes you have never seen in the US!
Seems ally you Guys want,is a Strongman like Putin running the US!
No worry,just have a bit of Patience,Buzz Windrip ain't far!
Don't cry when you get him,remember,You Asked For It,Brother!laugh


Beware of what you ask for comrade laugh


The trick is not to ask for anything, but work and prepare towards what you desire

no photo
Wed 11/12/14 07:00 AM








OMG,Putin's Useful Ones!rofl


Nescience vs Ignorance - The context of not knowing.

Nescience

From the Latin verb nesciere: "to not know because knowledge was absent or unobtainable"

Ignorance

From the Latin verb ignorare: "to not know even though necessary information is present, because that information has been willfully refused or disregarded.

Ignorance carries blame. The masses are in a state of ignorance.

The question is why?

Truth vs Perception

Truth is objective, meaning that it is not based on perceptions of human beings (which is capable of wavering). Truth is simply that which is. It is that which has occurred in the past and that which is occurring in the present. That which is.

No such thing as truth in the future.

Perception is not reality, but our work is to align the two, truth and perception.

"I've come to realize that the biggest problem anywhere in the world is that people's perceptions of reality are compulsively filtered through the screening mesh of what they want, and do not want, to be true." - Travis Walton

So basing ones reality on a perception, that which one wants to be true or untrue can only be based in ignorance, it can't be claimed as nescience as the knowledge is not absent or unattainable, it is just being ignored.

So facts are facts and fall where they may, no matter how many times and how vehemently they are ignored.



Just paraphrasing Lenin!
No need for Obfuscation!laugh

Just make sure you buy a Roundtrip-Ticket,because you won't like it in Vlad's Realm!
Would be a Fryingpan Into the Fire Sort of thing!


I have friends who live in Russia and the US because of their business. They are Russian. To listen to them there is little difference between them other than all the PC garbage here.

There is crime in Russia, but there is also punishment. They laugh at our court system. They say the US is a haven for criminals, our prisons are like resorts and our police are laughable.


If you want a System like theirs,stop hollering about the Constitution,call for the total abolition of the Bill Of Rights instead!
But as they say,the Grass is always greener over the Septic Tank!laugh
Crony-Capitalism the likes you have never seen in the US!
Seems ally you Guys want,is a Strongman like Putin running the US!
No worry,just have a bit of Patience,Buzz Windrip ain't far!
Don't cry when you get him,remember,You Asked For It,Brother!laugh


Beware of what you ask for comrade laugh


The trick is not to ask for anything, but work and prepare towards what you desire

:thumbsup:

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 11/12/14 07:22 AM







OMG,Putin's Useful Ones!rofl


Nescience vs Ignorance - The context of not knowing.

Nescience

From the Latin verb nesciere: "to not know because knowledge was absent or unobtainable"

Ignorance

From the Latin verb ignorare: "to not know even though necessary information is present, because that information has been willfully refused or disregarded.

Ignorance carries blame. The masses are in a state of ignorance.

The question is why?

Truth vs Perception

Truth is objective, meaning that it is not based on perceptions of human beings (which is capable of wavering). Truth is simply that which is. It is that which has occurred in the past and that which is occurring in the present. That which is.

No such thing as truth in the future.

Perception is not reality, but our work is to align the two, truth and perception.

"I've come to realize that the biggest problem anywhere in the world is that people's perceptions of reality are compulsively filtered through the screening mesh of what they want, and do not want, to be true." - Travis Walton

So basing ones reality on a perception, that which one wants to be true or untrue can only be based in ignorance, it can't be claimed as nescience as the knowledge is not absent or unattainable, it is just being ignored.

So facts are facts and fall where they may, no matter how many times and how vehemently they are ignored.



Just paraphrasing Lenin!
No need for Obfuscation!laugh

Just make sure you buy a Roundtrip-Ticket,because you won't like it in Vlad's Realm!
Would be a Fryingpan Into the Fire Sort of thing!


I have friends who live in Russia and the US because of their business. They are Russian. To listen to them there is little difference between them other than all the PC garbage here.

There is crime in Russia, but there is also punishment. They laugh at our court system. They say the US is a haven for criminals, our prisons are like resorts and our police are laughable.


If you want a System like theirs,stop hollering about the Constitution,call for the total abolition of the Bill Of Rights instead!
But as they say,the Grass is always greener over the Septic Tank!laugh
Crony-Capitalism the likes you have never seen in the US!
Seems ally you Guys want,is a Strongman like Putin running the US!
No worry,just have a bit of Patience,Buzz Windrip ain't far!
Don't cry when you get him,remember,You Asked For It,Brother!laugh


I've already given up on believing the US will ever get any form of constitutional leadership with bankers, their corporations, and their media calling the shots and providing corrupt politicos the idiot voters buy as "best for the country".

When the entire system is a farce what it produces can't be any better.

People today wouldn't know what rights and liberty are much less how to go about getting any, or what to do with it if they did.

I'm simply preparing for the end and hoping for a better new beginning for us to start screwing up all over again

The Days of Rome are upon us.... some kind of end is inevitable... and the chaos the will ensue

Hopefully, there's something left to build from

there will be,but not from Vlad's Corporatism!laugh
He is way ahead of you Americans!

He controls the New USSR with a few of his Cronies,and you all want to emulate that Guy?:laughing:

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Wed 11/12/14 07:50 AM

sum sea beyond the fables put on tables for the eaters by the feeders.




Words of wisdom.smile2
Thank you, Davidben

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 11/12/14 07:51 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 11/12/14 07:53 AM








OMG,Putin's Useful Ones!rofl


Nescience vs Ignorance - The context of not knowing.

Nescience

From the Latin verb nesciere: "to not know because knowledge was absent or unobtainable"

Ignorance

From the Latin verb ignorare: "to not know even though necessary information is present, because that information has been willfully refused or disregarded.

Ignorance carries blame. The masses are in a state of ignorance.

The question is why?

Truth vs Perception

Truth is objective, meaning that it is not based on perceptions of human beings (which is capable of wavering). Truth is simply that which is. It is that which has occurred in the past and that which is occurring in the present. That which is.

No such thing as truth in the future.

Perception is not reality, but our work is to align the two, truth and perception.

"I've come to realize that the biggest problem anywhere in the world is that people's perceptions of reality are compulsively filtered through the screening mesh of what they want, and do not want, to be true." - Travis Walton

So basing ones reality on a perception, that which one wants to be true or untrue can only be based in ignorance, it can't be claimed as nescience as the knowledge is not absent or unattainable, it is just being ignored.

So facts are facts and fall where they may, no matter how many times and how vehemently they are ignored.



Just paraphrasing Lenin!
No need for Obfuscation!laugh

Just make sure you buy a Roundtrip-Ticket,because you won't like it in Vlad's Realm!
Would be a Fryingpan Into the Fire Sort of thing!


I have friends who live in Russia and the US because of their business. They are Russian. To listen to them there is little difference between them other than all the PC garbage here.

There is crime in Russia, but there is also punishment. They laugh at our court system. They say the US is a haven for criminals, our prisons are like resorts and our police are laughable.


If you want a System like theirs,stop hollering about the Constitution,call for the total abolition of the Bill Of Rights instead!
But as they say,the Grass is always greener over the Septic Tank!laugh
Crony-Capitalism the likes you have never seen in the US!
Seems ally you Guys want,is a Strongman like Putin running the US!
No worry,just have a bit of Patience,Buzz Windrip ain't far!
Don't cry when you get him,remember,You Asked For It,Brother!laugh


I've already given up on believing the US will ever get any form of constitutional leadership with bankers, their corporations, and their media calling the shots and providing corrupt politicos the idiot voters buy as "best for the country".

When the entire system is a farce what it produces can't be any better.

People today wouldn't know what rights and liberty are much less how to go about getting any, or what to do with it if they did.

I'm simply preparing for the end and hoping for a better new beginning for us to start screwing up all over again

The Days of Rome are upon us.... some kind of end is inevitable... and the chaos the will ensue

Hopefully, there's something left to build from

there will be,but not from Vlad's Corporatism!laugh
He is way ahead of you Americans!

He controls the New USSR with a few of his Cronies,and you all want to emulate that Guy?:laughing:


Don't misunderstand me. I think the whole world has gone to hell in a hand basket, and while Putin is assuredly a strong leader I don't think him any better or worse than any of the current world leaders.

I do however applaud him on trying to break the banks, calling the western powers and leaders on their agendas, and standing with a big stick, laughing at their attempts to bring Russia under control with sanctions and red lines. Red lines he steps over as soon as they are drawn..... and drawn again.

The US has had leaders like that in the past, but now we're seen as a laughing stock, despite our military powers, because the idiot in the WH doesn't have a clue about the world around him, only his own fools parade from his gilded cage, lying to his own people, and making policy by EO that people showed in this past election they absolutely detest.... but doesn't seem to matter to him.

It's easy to "rule" the people with power, money, the media, and the "just following orders" military behind you.... ask any dictator.

Putin was elected...... as was Hitler.... doesn't make them great leaders, only actions can do that. However, Putin seems to be the only one making any waves against a failing system that makes any sense at the moment.....sadly and remarkably....whatever his agenda

The strength of power is not having to use it, but having others believe you will

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Wed 11/12/14 08:41 AM
Why are you Americans complaining? Don't you have the best president money can buy?

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 11/12/14 08:58 AM









OMG,Putin's Useful Ones!rofl


Nescience vs Ignorance - The context of not knowing.

Nescience

From the Latin verb nesciere: "to not know because knowledge was absent or unobtainable"

Ignorance

From the Latin verb ignorare: "to not know even though necessary information is present, because that information has been willfully refused or disregarded.

Ignorance carries blame. The masses are in a state of ignorance.

The question is why?

Truth vs Perception

Truth is objective, meaning that it is not based on perceptions of human beings (which is capable of wavering). Truth is simply that which is. It is that which has occurred in the past and that which is occurring in the present. That which is.

No such thing as truth in the future.

Perception is not reality, but our work is to align the two, truth and perception.

"I've come to realize that the biggest problem anywhere in the world is that people's perceptions of reality are compulsively filtered through the screening mesh of what they want, and do not want, to be true." - Travis Walton

So basing ones reality on a perception, that which one wants to be true or untrue can only be based in ignorance, it can't be claimed as nescience as the knowledge is not absent or unattainable, it is just being ignored.

So facts are facts and fall where they may, no matter how many times and how vehemently they are ignored.



Just paraphrasing Lenin!
No need for Obfuscation!laugh

Just make sure you buy a Roundtrip-Ticket,because you won't like it in Vlad's Realm!
Would be a Fryingpan Into the Fire Sort of thing!


I have friends who live in Russia and the US because of their business. They are Russian. To listen to them there is little difference between them other than all the PC garbage here.

There is crime in Russia, but there is also punishment. They laugh at our court system. They say the US is a haven for criminals, our prisons are like resorts and our police are laughable.


If you want a System like theirs,stop hollering about the Constitution,call for the total abolition of the Bill Of Rights instead!
But as they say,the Grass is always greener over the Septic Tank!laugh
Crony-Capitalism the likes you have never seen in the US!
Seems ally you Guys want,is a Strongman like Putin running the US!
No worry,just have a bit of Patience,Buzz Windrip ain't far!
Don't cry when you get him,remember,You Asked For It,Brother!laugh


I've already given up on believing the US will ever get any form of constitutional leadership with bankers, their corporations, and their media calling the shots and providing corrupt politicos the idiot voters buy as "best for the country".

When the entire system is a farce what it produces can't be any better.

People today wouldn't know what rights and liberty are much less how to go about getting any, or what to do with it if they did.

I'm simply preparing for the end and hoping for a better new beginning for us to start screwing up all over again

The Days of Rome are upon us.... some kind of end is inevitable... and the chaos the will ensue

Hopefully, there's something left to build from

there will be,but not from Vlad's Corporatism!laugh
He is way ahead of you Americans!

He controls the New USSR with a few of his Cronies,and you all want to emulate that Guy?:laughing:


Don't misunderstand me. I think the whole world has gone to hell in a hand basket, and while Putin is assuredly a strong leader I don't think him any better or worse than any of the current world leaders.

I do however applaud him on trying to break the banks, calling the western powers and leaders on their agendas, and standing with a big stick, laughing at their attempts to bring Russia under control with sanctions and red lines. Red lines he steps over as soon as they are drawn..... and drawn again.

The US has had leaders like that in the past, but now we're seen as a laughing stock, despite our military powers, because the idiot in the WH doesn't have a clue about the world around him, only his own fools parade from his gilded cage, lying to his own people, and making policy by EO that people showed in this past election they absolutely detest.... but doesn't seem to matter to him.

It's easy to "rule" the people with power, money, the media, and the "just following orders" military behind you.... ask any dictator.

Putin was elected...... as was Hitler.... doesn't make them great leaders, only actions can do that. However, Putin seems to be the only one making any waves against a failing system that makes any sense at the moment.....sadly and remarkably....whatever his agenda

The strength of power is not having to use it, but having others believe you will

Yep,he is doing very well against the Cronies!
Anyone of the stops to be useful ends up in Prison and all he's got confiscated!
Putin is Czar of Russia!
He's amassed a Fortune Obama can only dream of!laugh
Nope,you wouldn't want Putin rule over you!
Your Turkey would be cooked!:laughing:

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Wed 11/12/14 01:58 PM


ultimate powers realized many moons ago it was most beneficial to be best friends with other ultimate powers, and when the lights go down and the camera's stop filming, the equal agenda of ultimate powers do raise a fine equal toast to all whom rule together, for the wise do sea it self reign due to those whom live to feel self important, the beguile able, the trick able, the blind, who blindly follow any data put before them as facts.


Conflict of interests may cause serious consequences. It happened two times already, so there is a very real possibility of renewal of the conflict on the same scale. Russians play chess, Americans play monopoly and China woke up and learned a lot from both sides over the last 50 years. Many things changed after The Wall fell down, but some are still stuck in a Cold War era and fighting communism which exists no more.
The Wall would never go down in first place if there wasn't an agreement which suited mutual interests of all sides. Over time mutual interest has changed and conflict of interests reached an alerting level. Putin's speech is a part of hostile negotiation which includes a use of force if necessary. I do not think he is bluffing.
I hope I am wrong. After all, I am just a brunette who got here by mistake looking for a washroom to refresh my make - up and pull the tight highs back.
P.S.
I like your mind. It's intriguing. Let me copy Putin's style and say I am not going to blow you a kiss or ask you to add me as a friend, although I am very tempted to do so and not ashamed to express this secret (no more) wish publically. LOL



if it were up to me, every last one on here would be on my friends list, since i consider them all good people and worthy of their interests being protected...

of course, that is not to say all would deem my interest worthy of being protected...

smiles...

but since you insist, i tried to send you a friend request, and wa lah, it say's your accounts been deactivated...

sure it tis some settings disarray...

peace onnewjourney




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