Topic: Woman Beheaded In Oklahoma By Muslim
mrld_ii's photo
Fri 09/26/14 05:51 PM


3. Henry VIII, the founder of the (Christian) Protestant religion ...


Uh, no, he isn't the founder of the Protestant branch of the universal Church.
Instead, he created the Church of England.


The Church of England broke away from the Catholic Church because they would not allow divorce. The Church of England (est. 1534) and the Protestant Reformation Movement (c. 1517), while completely at odds with one another, actually helped advance each other's causes.

Today, the Movement's adherents can be found in (an example) the Lutheran Church; the Church of England's adherents can be found in (an example) the Episcopal Church. Both are considered "Protestant" religions.



I say "toe-may-toe", you say "tah-mah-tah"; we're still talking to/about/at the same fruits.


karmafury's photo
Sat 09/27/14 03:51 AM

What I'm not reading from the Muslim community is condemnation of horrific acts committed by their brothers and sisters.

Here's the scenario when it comes to the so-called moderate Muslims.


Tonto and The Lone Ranger are riding across the prairie, when they are
surrounded by 10,000 Comanche Indians. The Lone Ranger sets up in his
saddle, looks around and says, "Well Tonto, Looks like we're surrounded!"

Tonto looks around and says "What's this 'WE' stuff, white boy?"



Just a sampling

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/western-muslims-rally-against-extremism-1.2027397

http://www.npr.org/2014/09/25/351277631/prominent-muslim-sheikh-issues-fatwa-against-isis-violence

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/388593/moderate-muslims-stand-against-isis-christine-sisto

dcastelmissy's photo
Sat 09/27/14 04:45 AM

1. Only Muslims try to get converts? Somebody should get word to the bicycling-riding Jehovah's Witnesses.

2. Only Muslims get pissed when they get fired? When did Donald Sterling, the ex owner of the Clippers abandon his Jewish faith?

3. Henry VIII, the founder of the (Christian) Protestant religion had two of his six wives beheaded ("decapitated"). He WAS a Catholic, but then created a whole new religion so he divorce women when he was through with them.



You're welcome.







You have the bicycle riding Mormons confused with Jehovah's Witnesses! J/S
:smile:

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/27/14 05:13 AM

Woman Beheaded In Oklahoma By Muslim Convert

By LYDIA WARREN


Beware of the Nation of Islam

A fired employee who had been trying to convert co-workers to Islam stabbed two female colleagues - beheading one of them - before an off-duty officer shot him, police have said.

Alton Alexander Nolen, 30, was fired from Vaughan Foods, a food distribution center in Moore, Oklahoma on Thursday before returning to his car and smashing it into another vehicle.

He then climbed out and entered the building, attacking the first two people he encountered with a knife, Moore Police Sergeant Jeremy Lewis said.

After beheading Colleen Hufford, 54, and stabbing Traci Johnson, 43, multiple times, Nolen was shot by off-duty officer Mark Vaughan, who was working at the business.

On Friday, Lewis said that Nolen had been trying to convert co-workers to Islam and that local police had contacted the FBI to help investigate the man's background, KFOR reported.

Co-workers said Nolen himself had only just converted to Islam, according to News9. It is not yet known if his beliefs played a role in the attack.


Sounds like a case of work place violence to me.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/27/14 05:18 AM

Please Islam like christianity is religion of peace not of terrorist,don't judge Islam by terrorist because each evil people is only represent themselves not Islam or any religion
Peace and love:smile:


Doesn't your holy book say to kill the non believers by the sword? Plus I am not going to get into the pedophilia and disrespect towards women that is preached in it.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/27/14 05:24 AM


Woman Beheaded In Oklahoma By Muslim Convert

By LYDIA WARREN


Beware of the Nation of Islam

A fired employee who had been trying to convert co-workers to Islam stabbed two female colleagues - beheading one of them - before an off-duty officer shot him, police have said.

Alton Alexander Nolen, 30, was fired from Vaughan Foods, a food distribution center in Moore, Oklahoma on Thursday before returning to his car and smashing it into another vehicle.

He then climbed out and entered the building, attacking the first two people he encountered with a knife, Moore Police Sergeant Jeremy Lewis said.

After beheading Colleen Hufford, 54, and stabbing Traci Johnson, 43, multiple times, Nolen was shot by off-duty officer Mark Vaughan, who was working at the business.

On Friday, Lewis said that Nolen had been trying to convert co-workers to Islam and that local police had contacted the FBI to help investigate the man's background, KFOR reported.

Co-workers said Nolen himself had only just converted to Islam, according to News9. It is not yet known if his beliefs played a role in the attack.


.............It is not yet known if his beliefs played a role in the attack. :wink:


I highly doubt his beliefs did and if they did well it was a minor part. He got fired and was pissed off which is evidence when he smashed up a car. He probably only had a knife and if religion or terror was a part of this he would have stabbed the other woman multiple times he would have beheaded her. This doesn't look like a planned coordinated attack.

As part of my job I investigate and educate about workplace violence for the company I work for and I have had to have A LOT of training on the issue.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/27/14 05:26 AM



.............It is not yet known if his beliefs played a role in the attack. :wink:



To many on here, it does not really matter if his religious beliefs had anything to do with; the fact that he's not "Christian" like them is good enough, coupled with the fact that he's not white like them, on top of the fact that they KNOW he's not conservative and *right* like them.

Hating others for *good* reason is easy to do...sometimes you just have to dig a little deeper to uncover the justifications for it. It's important to periodically remind yourself that because you're Christian, of course you're not hate-filled Barbarian like "all those Muslims are".


:thumbsup:




Pretty judgmental statement from the newest member here.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/27/14 05:26 AM


For those who care to read, three facts were reported.
1 He was trying to get converts.
2 He was pissed he got fired.
3 He decapitated a woman.

Who da hell does that?

Any idiot can see, two out of three actions are Muslim related.



Muslims don't drink :wink:


What does that have to do with what was posted?

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/27/14 05:29 AM


For those who care to read, three facts were reported.
1 He was trying to get converts.
2 He was pissed he got fired.
3 He decapitated a woman.

Who da hell does that?

Any idiot can see, two out of three actions are Muslim related.





1. Only Muslims try to get converts? Somebody should get word to the bicycling-riding Jehovah's Witnesses.

2. Only Muslims get pissed when they get fired? When did Donald Sterling, the ex owner of the Clippers abandon his Jewish faith?

3. Henry VIII, the founder of the (Christian) Protestant religion had two of his six wives beheaded ("decapitated"). He WAS a Catholic, but then created a whole new religion so he divorce women when he was through with them.



You're welcome.





1. Yes, as much as I disagree with the Jehovah's Witnesses' practices, they don't decapitate people.
2. Donald Sterling is a stretch when you compare the two cases. Yes he was wrong, but no one lost their life over it.
3. Henry VIII I can't really comment on because sadly I don't know a lot about that one.



My post was in response to the assertion that 'out of these three things, ONLY Muslims do two of them'; I (once again) proved a presented-as-fact-statement to be completely and knee-jerkingly erroneous. It had nothing to do with the original post in the thread, but was addressing this one:


For those who care to read, three facts were reported.
1 He was trying to get converts.
2 He was pissed he got fired.
3 He decapitated a woman.

Who da hell does that?

Any idiot can see, two out of three actions are Muslim related.







I'm waiting to hear the details on whether the woman who was decapitated was a good Christian woman or one of the liberated feminazis I'm always reading so much about


before deciding the proper level of outrage this heinous act warrants.





Show me in RECENT history when Christians have beheaded women........ You can't, it adapted with the times where Islam is a medieval, brutal and an oppressive religion that has not adapted with the times.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/27/14 05:33 AM

she might have been of the pot smoking entitlement crowd


We wont be that lucky.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/27/14 05:35 AM

If Oilbama had a son, he would look like;




LOLOLOLOLOL

willing2's photo
Sat 09/27/14 06:38 AM
Edited by willing2 on Sat 09/27/14 06:48 AM
Let's imagine a scenario. The reason he got fired was because of his harassing co-workers to convert. Possibly threatening them if they refused.

IMO, the reason for his firing will determine if it was Islam related.

mrld_ii's photo
Sat 09/27/14 06:58 AM


You have the bicycle riding Mormons confused with Jehovah's Witnesses! J/S
:smile:


The next time they pedal on up to my front door here in Stockton to hand me their emblazoned pamphlets,


I'll be sure to let them know they're advertising for the wrong faith. Either that, or they should proofread better.




I am amazed by the number of people who have taken special exception to my REsponse to a post and are compelled to *correct* the statement of my REsponse to a post,


who have also accepted on *blind faith* that ONLY Muslims can claim 100% ownership rights of trying to convert others, getting angry when they get fired, and decapitating women. Well, exclusive rights to 2/3s of those, anyway.

The post to which I REplied, that in some's haste to hang on MY every word, they *overlooked*:


For those who care to read, three facts were reported.
1 He was trying to get converts.
2 He was pissed he got fired.
3 He decapitated a woman.

Who da hell does that?

Any idiot can see, two out of three actions are Muslim related.





dcastelmissy's photo
Sat 09/27/14 07:05 AM



You have the bicycle riding Mormons confused with Jehovah's Witnesses! J/S
:smile:


The next time they pedal on up to my front door here in Stockton to hand me their emblazoned pamphlets,


I'll be sure to let them know they're advertising for the wrong faith. Either that, or they should proofread better.




I am amazed by the number of people who have taken special exception to my REsponse to a post and are compelled to *correct* the statement of my REsponse to a post,


who have also accepted on *blind faith* that ONLY Muslims can claim 100% ownership rights of trying to convert others, getting angry when they get fired, and decapitating women. Well, exclusive rights to 2/3s of those, anyway.

The post to which I REplied, that in some's haste to hang on MY every word, they *overlooked*:


For those who care to read, three facts were reported.
1 He was trying to get converts.
2 He was pissed he got fired.
3 He decapitated a woman.

Who da hell does that?

Any idiot can see, two out of three actions are Muslim related.







No offense was meant. Here in Texas the only ones riding bikes with helmets and giving out pamphlets in their black slacks and white shirts are the elders of the Mormon Church. Maybe it's the difference of location! So sorry if it upset you as this was not my intent. flowerforyou

mrld_ii's photo
Sat 09/27/14 07:08 AM

Pretty judgmental statement from the newest member here.


Even if I were half as intelligent, blended better, and had only been here for 3 days,


some of you are so good at what you do, a blind pig could accurately - and properly - identify the stale muck from the freshly strewn muck.





Oh, and in this thread alone, there are (so far) 2 other posters with fewer posts than I have, one of whom has a "join date" later than mine...making me NOT "the newest member".

Factually-speaking, of course.

willing2's photo
Sat 09/27/14 07:16 AM


1. Only Muslims try to get converts? Somebody should get word to the bicycling-riding Jehovah's Witnesses.

2. Only Muslims get pissed when they get fired? When did Donald Sterling, the ex owner of the Clippers abandon his Jewish faith?

3. Henry VIII, the founder of the (Christian) Protestant religion had two of his six wives beheaded ("decapitated"). He WAS a Catholic, but then created a whole new religion so he divorce women when he was through with them.



You're welcome.







You have the bicycle riding Mormons confused with Jehovah's Witnesses! J/S
:smile:

Yeppers.
All the JWs I've seen are walking in groups of 2 and 3.



Mormons are on their bikes with hard hats, white shirts, ties and black pants.


mrld_ii's photo
Sat 09/27/14 07:29 AM
Edited by mrld_ii on Sat 09/27/14 07:31 AM


Show me in RECENT history when Christians have beheaded women........ You can't, it adapted with the times where Islam is a medieval, brutal and an oppressive religion that has not adapted with the times.


I don't HAVE to show where "in RECENT history Christians have beheaded women", as the presented-as-fact statement said it is something ONLY Muslims do (if it was one of the 2/3s that ONLY Muslims do); I need only find an example of in modern history of a decapitation of a woman that was NOT done by a Muslim to prove the presented-as-fact completely knee-jerkingly erroneous.

Fine. I'll accept the challenge to prove MY statement, all the while ignoring others' refusal to challenge the veracity of the original present-as-fact statement maker, even though I am NOT the current POTUS and therefore there is no *reason* for ME to be held to a different standard than others.



Nicole Brown Simpson was not decapitated by a Muslim; ergo, Muslims do NOT own exclusive rights to decapitating women.



You're welcome.


Conrad_73's photo
Sat 09/27/14 07:35 AM
Jehovah's Witness

you all don't handle them right!laugh

There was a knock on the door this morning.

I opened it to find a young man standing there who said: "Hello sir, I'm a Jehovah's Witness..."

I said "Come in and sit down."

I offered him coffee and asked, "What do you want to talk about?"

He said, "Buggered if I know, I've never got this far before."bigsmile

mrld_ii's photo
Sat 09/27/14 07:42 AM


No offense was meant. Here in Texas the only ones riding bikes with helmets and giving out pamphlets in their black slacks and white shirts are the elders of the Mormon Church. Maybe it's the difference of location! So sorry if it upset you as this was not my intent. flowerforyou



So sorry that you mistook my correcting your *correction* of me, as me being "upset". I did not realize that when you *corrected* me, you were angry or "upset" when doing it.


Again, in your haste, you again forgot to question the veracity of the contents of the post to which my REply caused you to *correct*, for veracity's sake (again, I've bolded it for others' ease of reference):



For those who care to read, three facts were reported.
1 He was trying to get converts.
2 He was pissed he got fired.
3 He decapitated a woman.

Who da hell does that?

Any idiot can see, two out of three actions are Muslim related.


willing2's photo
Sat 09/27/14 07:49 AM

Jehovah's Witness

you all don't handle them right!laugh

There was a knock on the door this morning.

I opened it to find a young man standing there who said: "Hello sir, I'm a Jehovah's Witness..."

I said "Come in and sit down."

I offered him coffee and asked, "What do you want to talk about?"

He said, "Buggered if I know, I've never got this far before."bigsmile

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Now, back to topic.

Let's imagine a scenario. The reason he got fired was because of his harassing co-workers to convert. Possibly threatening them if they refused.

IMO, the reason for his firing will determine if it was Islam related.