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From the Hebrew name מֹשֶׁה (Mosheh) which is most likely derived from Egyptian mes meaning "son", but could also possibly mean "deliver" in Hebrew. The meaning suggested in the Old Testament of "drew out" from Hebrew משה (mashah) is probably an invented etymology. Quite random there, does not address anything anyone has said, please stay on topic. These threads get off into left field to much as it is, or please explain the relevance of this comment to the thread in itself. Nobody even mentioned or referred to (Mosheh)The only name mentioned is Moses and that is egyptian origin. |
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Confusion-1 Corinthians 14:33 “God is not a God of confusion [disorder] but of peace…” (NIV) other versions say “God is not the author of confusion, but of peace….”(KJV) So is God the creator or not the creator of confusion? Wait isn’t God the creator of everything? For this is a perplexing scripture, because confusion clearly exist, and God is the creator of all things. He created everything so he must have also created confusion. Nonetheless, I can’t think of any one book that has influenced more confusion than the bible. For a religion to have well over 100 denomination churches & sects to choose from; -to me that looks like confusion to me. It gets even more confusing, seeing how God uses the art of confusion in war. The bible mentions God’s usage of confusion numerous times especially when talking about the fool in battle against the Midianite Army with Gideon (Judges 7:17-24) and the Amorite Army with Joshua (Joshua 10:10). Just look at all the examples of Christians debating & killing each other over doctrinal issues. Just look at the countless times God used confusion as a tool of warfare in battle. And his most famous act of confusion, the tower of Babylon where God purposely confused the language of people. So they couldn’t reach the heavens. (Which we have done and surpassed anyways.) To add to the confusion: Is God, a God of War or Peace? Premise 1: God is a God of Peace (Romans 15:33 & 1 Corinthians) Premise 2: God is a God of War (Exodus 15:3) Conclusion: God is peaceful warrior. Who destroys cities and conquers land for the sake of peace. It is somewhat perplexing when you think about. God who is not the author of confusion nor the God of Confusion, but he is the creator of all things. And used confusion as a tool in battle Joshua 10:10 & Gideon 7:19-23. Created various languages for the purpose of confusing the human race from reaching the heavens. Then said he did it because he feared man could do anything. But we ended up reaching the heavens and surpassing it, even in spite of the difference of language. (It seems that God was not too smart in his rationality.) What are we to make of this? NO- God did not create Confusion-1 Corinthians 14:33 YES- God is the creator of Confusion- 1 Corinthians 1:27, and Genesis 11:7-9 [Tower of Babel]. One could ever argue, he authored the confusion of different languages. About these ads For this is a perplexing scripture, because confusion clearly exist, and God is the creator of all things That's a bit of a far stretched there TBR. "Confusion" is not a creation, it is a descriptive word. It's not anything tangible. It's a descriptive word for a misunderstanding. |
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Confusion-1 Corinthians 14:33 “God is not a God of confusion [disorder] but of peace…” (NIV) other versions say “God is not the author of confusion, but of peace….”(KJV) So is God the creator or not the creator of confusion? Wait isn’t God the creator of everything? For this is a perplexing scripture, because confusion clearly exist, and God is the creator of all things. He created everything so he must have also created confusion. Nonetheless, I can’t think of any one book that has influenced more confusion than the bible. For a religion to have well over 100 denomination churches & sects to choose from; -to me that looks like confusion to me. It gets even more confusing, seeing how God uses the art of confusion in war. The bible mentions God’s usage of confusion numerous times especially when talking about the fool in battle against the Midianite Army with Gideon (Judges 7:17-24) and the Amorite Army with Joshua (Joshua 10:10). Just look at all the examples of Christians debating & killing each other over doctrinal issues. Just look at the countless times God used confusion as a tool of warfare in battle. And his most famous act of confusion, the tower of Babylon where God purposely confused the language of people. So they couldn’t reach the heavens. (Which we have done and surpassed anyways.) To add to the confusion: Is God, a God of War or Peace? Premise 1: God is a God of Peace (Romans 15:33 & 1 Corinthians) Premise 2: God is a God of War (Exodus 15:3) Conclusion: God is peaceful warrior. Who destroys cities and conquers land for the sake of peace. It is somewhat perplexing when you think about. God who is not the author of confusion nor the God of Confusion, but he is the creator of all things. And used confusion as a tool in battle Joshua 10:10 & Gideon 7:19-23. Created various languages for the purpose of confusing the human race from reaching the heavens. Then said he did it because he feared man could do anything. But we ended up reaching the heavens and surpassing it, even in spite of the difference of language. (It seems that God was not too smart in his rationality.) What are we to make of this? NO- God did not create Confusion-1 Corinthians 14:33 YES- God is the creator of Confusion- 1 Corinthians 1:27, and Genesis 11:7-9 [Tower of Babel]. One could ever argue, he authored the confusion of different languages. About these ads gOD IS God of everything, he has many "names, jealousy, for one, he is a god of love, of war, all of it. if you follow his laws , which are not grevious, he will love you, if you, or your society fall from his laws, he will hate you and you will eventually either destroy yourself, or be destroyed. for proof read the entire old testament. if is chocked full of examples of people, and societies, that were blessed for thier belief, the, when they became wealthy, they fell away,,, and were estroyed. It is not inconsistant for god to be a God of love and a God of war. it makes perfect sense. next? |
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From the Hebrew name מֹשֶׁה (Mosheh) which is most likely derived from Egyptian mes meaning "son", but could also possibly mean "deliver" in Hebrew. The meaning suggested in the Old Testament of "drew out" from Hebrew משה (mashah) is probably an invented etymology. Quite random there, does not address anything anyone has said, please stay on topic. These threads get off into left field to much as it is, or please explain the relevance of this comment to the thread in itself. Nobody even mentioned or referred to (Mosheh)The only name mentioned is Moses and that is egyptian origin. I am referencing your statement that Moses is an Egyptian name. |
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oh. satan is the god of confusion,
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From the Hebrew name מֹשֶׁה (Mosheh) which is most likely derived from Egyptian mes meaning "son", but could also possibly mean "deliver" in Hebrew. The meaning suggested in the Old Testament of "drew out" from Hebrew משה (mashah) is probably an invented etymology. Quite random there, does not address anything anyone has said, please stay on topic. These threads get off into left field to much as it is, or please explain the relevance of this comment to the thread in itself. Nobody even mentioned or referred to (Mosheh)The only name mentioned is Moses and that is egyptian origin. I am referencing your statement that Moses is an Egyptian name. How is a "Hebrew" name in reference to an "Egyptian" name/person, as Moses is an Egyptian name and your statement has no reference to "Moses". Moses wasn't Hebrew, he was a former Egyptian prince. |
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While there is evidence of smaller trips across the Sinai, there is no evidence of a large Jewish exodus; nor is there any sociological evidence. Jewish communities in Egypt were more likely mercenaries protecting the borders. Also the terms of the challenge should limit references to science and not pseudo-science. Of course there probably wasn't Jewish communities, they were slaves after all. And we know slaves weren't treated as "people". They were treated as an object of property. So again of course there wouldn't be evidence, at least not a great deal of evidence of the Jews "living" in egypt, because they weren't "living". Again, they were slaves and in that day and age, slaves didn't have rights and were not considered to be part of the country itself. They were expendable pieces of property owned for work, not "people". whoever built the pyramids were very skilled, moreso than we are today.Find a contractor today that would bid on setting a 2 ton stone every two minutes for twenty years if you dont believe that. That being said, if archeologists looked at our society in the future, they would say things like "they kept thier slaves in metal boxes", ( house trailers). i think they were slaves in the same sense that a factory worker is a slave.., they were held captive because of thier race, (and also thier previous sin) Again there is no evidence they were slaves, they weren't in Egypt when the pyramids were built and Egyptian records show they used well paid Egyptians to build them. The Exodus story itself implies they were mercenaries. |
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From the Hebrew name מֹשֶׁה (Mosheh) which is most likely derived from Egyptian mes meaning "son", but could also possibly mean "deliver" in Hebrew. The meaning suggested in the Old Testament of "drew out" from Hebrew משה (mashah) is probably an invented etymology. Quite random there, does not address anything anyone has said, please stay on topic. These threads get off into left field to much as it is, or please explain the relevance of this comment to the thread in itself. Nobody even mentioned or referred to (Mosheh)The only name mentioned is Moses and that is egyptian origin. I am referencing your statement that Moses is an Egyptian name. How is a "Hebrew" name in reference to an "Egyptian" name/person, as Moses is an Egyptian name and your statement has no reference to "Moses". Moses wasn't Hebrew, he was a former Egyptian prince. Moses is derived from the Hebrew Mosheh; Perhaps you should read Moses and Monotheism by Freud as an introduction to the concept |
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I DONT think ever SAID THEY BUILT the pyramids anyway.., .., except mabe hollywood.
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There wasent much straw and mud in the pyramids construction btw.
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From the Hebrew name מֹשֶׁה (Mosheh) which is most likely derived from Egyptian mes meaning "son", but could also possibly mean "deliver" in Hebrew. The meaning suggested in the Old Testament of "drew out" from Hebrew משה (mashah) is probably an invented etymology. Quite random there, does not address anything anyone has said, please stay on topic. These threads get off into left field to much as it is, or please explain the relevance of this comment to the thread in itself. Nobody even mentioned or referred to (Mosheh)The only name mentioned is Moses and that is egyptian origin. I am referencing your statement that Moses is an Egyptian name. How is a "Hebrew" name in reference to an "Egyptian" name/person, as Moses is an Egyptian name and your statement has no reference to "Moses". Moses wasn't Hebrew, he was a former Egyptian prince. Moses is derived from the Hebrew Mosheh; Perhaps you should read Moses and Monotheism by Freud as an introduction to the concept No sir, Moses is an Egyptian name. Which is totally accurate as Moses was a former Egyptian prince. Moses has nothing to do with the Hebrews in this context, he was not a Hebrew, he was again an Egyptian. |
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From the Hebrew name מֹשֶׁה (Mosheh) which is most likely derived from Egyptian mes meaning "son", but could also possibly mean "deliver" in Hebrew. The meaning suggested in the Old Testament of "drew out" from Hebrew משה (mashah) is probably an invented etymology. Quite random there, does not address anything anyone has said, please stay on topic. These threads get off into left field to much as it is, or please explain the relevance of this comment to the thread in itself. Nobody even mentioned or referred to (Mosheh)The only name mentioned is Moses and that is egyptian origin. I am referencing your statement that Moses is an Egyptian name. How is a "Hebrew" name in reference to an "Egyptian" name/person, as Moses is an Egyptian name and your statement has no reference to "Moses". Moses wasn't Hebrew, he was a former Egyptian prince. Moses is derived from the Hebrew Mosheh; Perhaps you should read Moses and Monotheism by Freud as an introduction to the concept |
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When a word exist with a certain meaning and then a story is later told with a person whose name is derived from that word and performs the function of that word; this is the usual formula for a made-up myth.
Dinner, nap time and then work. In the meantime do your studies |
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When a word exist with a certain meaning and then a story is later told with a person whose name is derived from that word and performs the function of that word; this is the usual formula for a made-up myth.
Dinner, nap time and then work. In the meantime do your studies |
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When a word exist with a certain meaning and then a story is later told with a person whose name is derived from that word and performs the function of that word; this is the usual formula for a made-up myth. Dinner, nap time and then work. In the meantime do your studies That's entirely perceptive, but ok. |
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do you believe that you can disprove the bible? Bring it. I will ( attempt to) chew you up with facts. ( POLITELY) do you believe that you can disprove that Ghosts impregnate Virgins? Bring it. I will ( attempt to) chew you up with facts. ( POLITELY) See what I did. The burden of proof is on the person making the clam. Not my job to disprove fairy tales. |
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do you believe that you can disprove the bible? Bring it. I will ( attempt to) chew you up with facts. ( POLITELY) do you believe that you can disprove that Ghosts impregnate Virgins? Bring it. I will ( attempt to) chew you up with facts. ( POLITELY) See what I did. The burden of proof is on the person making the clam. Not my job to disprove fairy tales. You can't prove it neither true or false, nothing that happened yesterday can be proven with out a doubt fact that it did happen. Even in this day and age say one has a video tape of something. That could always have been made over the computer through editors and stuff of that nature. EVERYTHING believed of yesterday is taken on faith, absolutely nothing can be proven without a doubt it happened or didn't happen. Boils down to if the person wishes to believe it true or not, it will appear true or not to them through THEIR perception. |
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Matthew 12:2-5 2 When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.” 3 Jesus answered, “Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4 He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. 5 Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent? Being somebody who has read the entire bible, when I saw this scripture when preparing for youth bible it immediately caught my eye, because I have never seen such a story in the old testament. So I immediately started to research and came to the conclusion, that this is nowhere is the BIBLE. (Even if I consider ALL historical Christian & Judaic books ex: the Apocrypha, Talmud, Synoptic gospels, Dead sea scrolls, and all un-canonized books; it is still not in there.) your references and your scholars do not or did not look hard. I suggest you look at why David is so Special. Where it is spoken of him bringing the poor into eat at the Kings table and treating them as he would anyone else. This is what made David Special and in the Law you were able to eat as it says he did if it was a manner of life or death. Yahweh says to choose Life |
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When a word exist with a certain meaning and then a story is later told with a person whose name is derived from that word and performs the function of that word; this is the usual formula for a made-up myth. Dinner, nap time and then work. In the meantime do your studies That's entirely perceptive, but ok. idle speculation. NEXT? |
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When a word exist with a certain meaning and then a story is later told with a person whose name is derived from that word and performs the function of that word; this is the usual formula for a made-up myth. Dinner, nap time and then work. In the meantime do your studies That's entirely perceptive, but ok. idle speculation. NEXT? [/quote No it is part of how one forensically examines a document; another give away is how later stories become more and more fantastical. This is almost like trying to argue science with a creationist who can't understand science but needs to prove what they believe. People believe what they need to, but upon examination and as per demographics- fundamentalism is on the decline. |
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