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Topic: A Case For Impeachment
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Tue 06/03/14 12:42 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Tue 06/03/14 12:44 PM
This morning on WMALs “Morning on the Mall�� radio show with hosts Brian and Larry I was asked a simple question relating to the Taliban prisoner release and impeachment of the president. I responded yes that in this current case, the U.S. House of Representatives should file articles of impeachment against Barack Hussein Obama.

Now before all the detractors go apoplectic here, let me tell you about Article 2 signing statements, their intent, purpose, history, and usage, and the implications for the president��s impeachment.

President Obama used an Article 2 signing statement to deem unconstitutional a measure HE had signed into law contained in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). The law stated that he must advise Congress within 30 days about any plans to transfer detainees from GITMO. Obama basically stated that this was “unconstitutional�� and that his unilateral action fell within his purview. Once again Obama used selective discretion as to what law he feels he must adhere to �� in this case it has severe ramifications for our national security.

Why would the United States acquiesce to the demands of a non-state, non-uniform terrorist organization�� the Taliban? The Taliban is our enemy and it is not a nation-state with whom we should enter into negotiations. There are some 141 detainees at GITMO. The five released were senior Taliban officials, basically members of Mullah Omar’s inner circle. If we wanted to release detainees in exchange for Bergdahl, there were many others to choose from. Why these?

The rate of recidivism for GITMO released detainees has gone from 1 in 6 to 1 in 3�� and why would we think a one-year travel ban out of Qatar will be respected, or even make a difference with today’s modern communications technology? Even Obama has now stated they may just return to terrorist activity.


Obama’s breaking of the law in this case presents serious national security concerns for all Americans. This is aiding and abetting the enemy, which goes along with the collusion of this administration with Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated organizations and supplying weapons and arms to Islamists.

Obama just released the leadership of a terrorist organization, and what did we get in return? A deserter, who by his own self-proclamation harbors anti-American sentiments — which it seems that Susan Rice, our esteemed National Security Advisor, didn’t even realize his heinous actions or maybe as usual she just lied about it again. Bergdahl served the United States with honor and distinction? Let’s not send Susan Rice out ever again.

To hear Obama state that “no American should be left behind” — has he forgotten about Benghazi and Marine SGT Tahmooressi? How about leaving behind American veterans to die?

Ladies and gentlemen, I submit that Barack Hussein Obama’s unilateral negotiations with terrorists and the ensuing release of their key leadership without consult�� mandated by law — with the U.S. Congress represents high crimes and misdemeanors, an impeachable offense.

So I call upon the leadership of the U.S. House of Representatives; Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to draft articles of impeachment as no one is above the law in America. The failure to do so speaks volumes.

Read more at http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/case-impeachment-barack-hussein-obama/#SpGe8KWOA6xxQBEB.99

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 06/03/14 02:06 PM

All hail our Idiot in Chief! Our offender of the Constitution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrTtyK6qxT4

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Tue 06/03/14 02:42 PM
Edited by Dodo_David on Tue 06/03/14 02:44 PM
Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.

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Tue 06/03/14 05:07 PM

Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


Thank you Dodo. I, didn't know that.

no photo
Tue 06/03/14 07:17 PM

Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


Wow, is that the democracy version of the constitution with translations for immigrants? Why do you choose to remain ignorant of the facts? This is your first posting of this same trash.

First off, just as the last time you posted this trash, that is not what the constitution says, the House does not impeach, they submit Articles of Impeachment, an indictment, to the trier of the Impeachment, the Senate.

If the Senate, by 2/3 vote convicts, then there is an impeachment, removal from office.


The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.


I would guess that no one has ever accused you of being a sentient being, definitely not me.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson

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Tue 06/03/14 07:20 PM


Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


Thank you Dodo. I, didn't know that.


And with what he stated, you still don't.

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Wed 06/04/14 10:10 AM


Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


Wow, is that the democracy version of the constitution with translations for immigrants? Why do you choose to remain ignorant of the facts? This is your first posting of this same trash.

First off, just as the last time you posted this trash, that is not what the constitution says, the House does not impeach, they submit Articles of Impeachment, an indictment, to the trier of the Impeachment, the Senate.

If the Senate, by 2/3 vote convicts, then there is an impeachment, removal from office.


The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.


I would guess that no one has ever accused you of being a sentient being, definitely not me.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson


Was President Clinton impeached?
Yes, he was. Who impeached him? The U.S. House of Representatives.

Indeed, the portion of the U.S. Constitution that you quote specifically says that the House has the sole power of impeachment.

So, no, I did not err in my previous post about impeachment.

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Wed 06/04/14 10:50 AM



Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


Wow, is that the democracy version of the constitution with translations for immigrants? Why do you choose to remain ignorant of the facts? This is your first posting of this same trash.

First off, just as the last time you posted this trash, that is not what the constitution says, the House does not impeach, they submit Articles of Impeachment, an indictment, to the trier of the Impeachment, the Senate.

If the Senate, by 2/3 vote convicts, then there is an impeachment, removal from office.


The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.


I would guess that no one has ever accused you of being a sentient being, definitely not me.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson


Was President Clinton impeached?
Yes, he was. Who impeached him? The U.S. House of Representatives.

Indeed, the portion of the U.S. Constitution that you quote specifically says that the House has the sole power of impeachment.

So, no, I did not err in my previous post about impeachment.


No, Clinton was not impeached, he stood to be tried by the Senate for Articles of Impeachment, but they did not convict so he remained in office, not impeached.


Black's Law Dictionary, Revised 4th edition, 1968
IMPEACHMENT. A criminal proceeding against a public officer, before a quasi political court, instituted by a written accusation called "articles of impeachment;" for example, a written accusation by the house of representatives of the United States to the senate of the United States against an officer.

Articles of impeachment. The formal written allegation of the causes for an impeachment, answering the same purpose as an indictment in an
ordinary criminal proceeding.


This has all been posted before to the same ignorant response, a response based on the choice to ignore the truth and keep posting the same misguided perception.

And you also stated that the Senate needs but a "simple majority" when that is stated in plain English as needing 2/3 of the members, 67 senators. So if such a simple thing as plain text can't be understood, what hope is there for a complex theory like not being a criminal until convicted. But then that seems to be the macrocosm of today's world, guilty in the court of public opinion, regardless of what happens in reality, the ignorance of the masses, Moral Relativism.

But you did, in all ways, post in total error not once, but many times, twice so far in this post.

An individuals teachability, or their ability to learn by way of being taught by someone else, is extremely dependent upon the open-mindedness or close-mindedness of the individual being taught. Low teachability derives from arrogance and rigid skepticism, but also from naivet� and gullibility. High teachability derives from a balance between healthy skepticism and an open-minded willingness to learn and change.

Definition, a statement of the exact meaning of a word. An exact statement or description of the nature, scope, or meaning of something. The degree of distinctiveness or clarity of an object, image, or sound. The more accurate our definitions for words or concepts are, the better our clarity of meaning, and therefore, our understanding, of those words or concepts will be.

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Wed 06/04/14 11:15 AM




Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


Wow, is that the democracy version of the constitution with translations for immigrants? Why do you choose to remain ignorant of the facts? This is your first posting of this same trash.

First off, just as the last time you posted this trash, that is not what the constitution says, the House does not impeach, they submit Articles of Impeachment, an indictment, to the trier of the Impeachment, the Senate.

If the Senate, by 2/3 vote convicts, then there is an impeachment, removal from office.


The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.


I would guess that no one has ever accused you of being a sentient being, definitely not me.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson


Was President Clinton impeached?
Yes, he was. Who impeached him? The U.S. House of Representatives.

Indeed, the portion of the U.S. Constitution that you quote specifically says that the House has the sole power of impeachment.

So, no, I did not err in my previous post about impeachment.


No, Clinton was not impeached, he stood to be tried by the Senate for Articles of Impeachment, but they did not convict so he remained in office, not impeached.


Black's Law Dictionary, Revised 4th edition, 1968
IMPEACHMENT. A criminal proceeding against a public officer, before a quasi political court, instituted by a written accusation called "articles of impeachment;" for example, a written accusation by the house of representatives of the United States to the senate of the United States against an officer.

Articles of impeachment. The formal written allegation of the causes for an impeachment, answering the same purpose as an indictment in an
ordinary criminal proceeding.


This has all been posted before to the same ignorant response, a response based on the choice to ignore the truth and keep posting the same misguided perception.

And you also stated that the Senate needs but a "simple majority" when that is stated in plain English as needing 2/3 of the members, 67 senators. So if such a simple thing as plain text can't be understood, what hope is there for a complex theory like not being a criminal until convicted. But then that seems to be the macrocosm of today's world, guilty in the court of public opinion, regardless of what happens in reality, the ignorance of the masses, Moral Relativism.

But you did, in all ways, post in total error not once, but many times, twice so far in this post.

An individuals teachability, or their ability to learn by way of being taught by someone else, is extremely dependent upon the open-mindedness or close-mindedness of the individual being taught. Low teachability derives from arrogance and rigid skepticism, but also from naivet� and gullibility. High teachability derives from a balance between healthy skepticism and an open-minded willingness to learn and change.

Definition, a statement of the exact meaning of a word. An exact statement or description of the nature, scope, or meaning of something. The degree of distinctiveness or clarity of an object, image, or sound. The more accurate our definitions for words or concepts are, the better our clarity of meaning, and therefore, our understanding, of those words or concepts will be.

Clinton was IMPEACHED by Congress,then TRIED by the Senate,but the necessary Majority to CONVICT him didn't materialize!
He was IMPEACHED regardless what you are saying about!
Congress Impeaches,and Senate Tries and Convicts!

The Congress' Articles of Impeachment are being used in the Senate to conduct the Trial of the Official!

Impeachment in the United States is an expressed power of the legislature that allows for formal charges against a civil officer of government for crimes committed in office. The actual trial on those charges, and subsequent removal of an official on conviction on those charges, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

Impeachment is analogous to indictment in regular court proceedings, while trial by the other house is analogous to the trial before judge and jury in regular courts. Typically, the lower house of the legislature will impeach the official and the upper house will conduct the trial.



I don't know where you get your Info from,but it is so erroneous,it brings Tears even to this Auslander's Eyes!laugh

willing2's photo
Wed 06/04/14 11:15 AM
Edited by willing2 on Wed 06/04/14 11:20 AM
According to a constitutional attorney on CNN, Hussein could have any politician or private person killed or permanently detained.

All he has to say is, the action was taken in the name of National Security. As he did releasing terrorists for a deserter.


TBRich's photo
Wed 06/04/14 11:29 AM
this is a very weak case for impeachment....under Scottish law

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 06/04/14 02:16 PM
From the New York Times, December 20, 1998:

William Jefferson Clinton was impeached on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice today by a divided House of Representatives, which recommended virtually along party lines that the Senate remove the nation's 42d President from office.











Lpdon's photo
Wed 06/04/14 02:21 PM

Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


No, but being impeached by Congress is a big embarrassment, I believe it has only happened two or three times in history. After 2014 elections we might have enough in the Senate to vote for impeachment.

Also there are quite a few Dems who are not happy with Obama over this as well. Either they are trying to save their own a$$e$ in 2014 or they are truly pissed, they might get enough. It should be tried.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 06/04/14 02:24 PM




Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


Wow, is that the democracy version of the constitution with translations for immigrants? Why do you choose to remain ignorant of the facts? This is your first posting of this same trash.

First off, just as the last time you posted this trash, that is not what the constitution says, the House does not impeach, they submit Articles of Impeachment, an indictment, to the trier of the Impeachment, the Senate.

If the Senate, by 2/3 vote convicts, then there is an impeachment, removal from office.


The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.


I would guess that no one has ever accused you of being a sentient being, definitely not me.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson


Was President Clinton impeached?
Yes, he was. Who impeached him? The U.S. House of Representatives.

Indeed, the portion of the U.S. Constitution that you quote specifically says that the House has the sole power of impeachment.

So, no, I did not err in my previous post about impeachment.


No, Clinton was not impeached, he stood to be tried by the Senate for Articles of Impeachment, but they did not convict so he remained in office, not impeached.


Black's Law Dictionary, Revised 4th edition, 1968
IMPEACHMENT. A criminal proceeding against a public officer, before a quasi political court, instituted by a written accusation called "articles of impeachment;" for example, a written accusation by the house of representatives of the United States to the senate of the United States against an officer.

Articles of impeachment. The formal written allegation of the causes for an impeachment, answering the same purpose as an indictment in an
ordinary criminal proceeding.


This has all been posted before to the same ignorant response, a response based on the choice to ignore the truth and keep posting the same misguided perception.

And you also stated that the Senate needs but a "simple majority" when that is stated in plain English as needing 2/3 of the members, 67 senators. So if such a simple thing as plain text can't be understood, what hope is there for a complex theory like not being a criminal until convicted. But then that seems to be the macrocosm of today's world, guilty in the court of public opinion, regardless of what happens in reality, the ignorance of the masses, Moral Relativism.

But you did, in all ways, post in total error not once, but many times, twice so far in this post.

An individuals teachability, or their ability to learn by way of being taught by someone else, is extremely dependent upon the open-mindedness or close-mindedness of the individual being taught. Low teachability derives from arrogance and rigid skepticism, but also from naivet� and gullibility. High teachability derives from a balance between healthy skepticism and an open-minded willingness to learn and change.

Definition, a statement of the exact meaning of a word. An exact statement or description of the nature, scope, or meaning of something. The degree of distinctiveness or clarity of an object, image, or sound. The more accurate our definitions for words or concepts are, the better our clarity of meaning, and therefore, our understanding, of those words or concepts will be.


Clinton WAS impeached by Congress but was not impeached by the Senate. It takes both houses EQUALLY to impeach a President.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 06/04/14 02:24 PM


Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


Wow, is that the democracy version of the constitution with translations for immigrants? Why do you choose to remain ignorant of the facts? This is your first posting of this same trash.

First off, just as the last time you posted this trash, that is not what the constitution says, the House does not impeach, they submit Articles of Impeachment, an indictment, to the trier of the Impeachment, the Senate.

If the Senate, by 2/3 vote convicts, then there is an impeachment, removal from office.


The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.


I would guess that no one has ever accused you of being a sentient being, definitely not me.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson


Why do you have to be so rude to everyone you disagree with? Dodo and I disagree a lot over issues but we to it respectfully because I know he is a good guy and a man of integrity, he just has different views on certain subjects then I do and I RESPECT that. I would change your tone when your talking to people here.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 06/04/14 02:25 PM

this is a very weak case for impeachment....under Scottish law


That is why I am proud to be an American. We actually have the ability to do the right thing.

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Wed 06/04/14 02:35 PM


Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


No, but being impeached by Congress is a big embarrassment, I believe it has only happened two or three times in history. After 2014 elections we might have enough in the Senate to vote for impeachment.

Also there are quite a few Dems who are not happy with Obama over this as well. Either they are trying to save their own a$$e$ in 2014 or they are truly pissed, they might get enough. It should be tried.


If the Republicans regain control over the Senate and keep control of the House, then I would not object to the House impeaching President Obama for openly violating a federal law that he himself signed.

Anyway, you are right when you say that is a big embarrassment to be impeached by the House.

The only other sitting President to be impeached was Andrew Johnson.

From PBS: "The Impeachment of Andrew Johnson":

On February 24, 1868, something extraordinary happened in the U.S. Congress. For the first time in history, the United States House of Representatives impeached a sitting president, Democrat Andrew Johnson.


Merriam-Webster.com defines "impeach" as "to charge (a public official) with a crime done while in office".

Collins English Dictionary defines "impeach" as "to charge (a public official) with an offence committed in office".


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Wed 06/04/14 02:36 PM





Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


Wow, is that the democracy version of the constitution with translations for immigrants? Why do you choose to remain ignorant of the facts? This is your first posting of this same trash.

First off, just as the last time you posted this trash, that is not what the constitution says, the House does not impeach, they submit Articles of Impeachment, an indictment, to the trier of the Impeachment, the Senate.

If the Senate, by 2/3 vote convicts, then there is an impeachment, removal from office.


The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.


I would guess that no one has ever accused you of being a sentient being, definitely not me.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson


Was President Clinton impeached?
Yes, he was. Who impeached him? The U.S. House of Representatives.

Indeed, the portion of the U.S. Constitution that you quote specifically says that the House has the sole power of impeachment.

So, no, I did not err in my previous post about impeachment.


No, Clinton was not impeached, he stood to be tried by the Senate for Articles of Impeachment, but they did not convict so he remained in office, not impeached.


Black's Law Dictionary, Revised 4th edition, 1968
IMPEACHMENT. A criminal proceeding against a public officer, before a quasi political court, instituted by a written accusation called "articles of impeachment;" for example, a written accusation by the house of representatives of the United States to the senate of the United States against an officer.

Articles of impeachment. The formal written allegation of the causes for an impeachment, answering the same purpose as an indictment in an
ordinary criminal proceeding.


This has all been posted before to the same ignorant response, a response based on the choice to ignore the truth and keep posting the same misguided perception.

And you also stated that the Senate needs but a "simple majority" when that is stated in plain English as needing 2/3 of the members, 67 senators. So if such a simple thing as plain text can't be understood, what hope is there for a complex theory like not being a criminal until convicted. But then that seems to be the macrocosm of today's world, guilty in the court of public opinion, regardless of what happens in reality, the ignorance of the masses, Moral Relativism.

But you did, in all ways, post in total error not once, but many times, twice so far in this post.

An individuals teachability, or their ability to learn by way of being taught by someone else, is extremely dependent upon the open-mindedness or close-mindedness of the individual being taught. Low teachability derives from arrogance and rigid skepticism, but also from naivet� and gullibility. High teachability derives from a balance between healthy skepticism and an open-minded willingness to learn and change.

Definition, a statement of the exact meaning of a word. An exact statement or description of the nature, scope, or meaning of something. The degree of distinctiveness or clarity of an object, image, or sound. The more accurate our definitions for words or concepts are, the better our clarity of meaning, and therefore, our understanding, of those words or concepts will be.


Clinton WAS impeached by Congress but was not impeached by the Senate. It takes both houses EQUALLY to impeach a President.

Nope,The House Impeaches,and the Senate tries on Basis of the House's Articles of Impeachment!

The Articles of Impeachment are the Indictment,so the Person can be tried by the Senate!
No Indictment,no Trial!
They are two separate things by two different Bodies!

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 06/04/14 02:44 PM


Clinton WAS impeached by Congress but was not impeached by the Senate. It takes both houses EQUALLY to impeach a President.

Nope,The House Impeaches,and the Senate tries on Basis of the House's Articles of Impeachment!

The Articles of Impeachment are the Indictment,so the Person can be tried by the Senate!
No Indictment,no Trial!
They are two separate things by two different Bodies!


That is correct. An impeachment is an indictment, and the House indicts.

Once an impeachment takes place, the impeached person is placed on trial by the full Senate.

A person can be impeached - as Presidents Andrew Johnson and Bill were - but the impeachment does not guarantee a conviction by Senate.

The House impeaches. The Senate convicts. That is how a federal official is removed from office.

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Wed 06/04/14 02:58 PM



Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


No, but being impeached by Congress is a big embarrassment, I believe it has only happened two or three times in history. After 2014 elections we might have enough in the Senate to vote for impeachment.

Also there are quite a few Dems who are not happy with Obama over this as well. Either they are trying to save their own a$$e$ in 2014 or they are truly pissed, they might get enough. It should be tried.


If the Republicans regain control over the Senate and keep control of the House, then I would not object to the House impeaching President Obama for openly violating a federal law that he himself signed.

Anyway, you are right when you say that is a big embarrassment to be impeached by the House.

The only other sitting President to be impeached was Andrew Johnson.

From PBS: "The Impeachment of Andrew Johnson":

On February 24, 1868, something extraordinary happened in the U.S. Congress. For the first time in history, the United States House of Representatives impeached a sitting president, Democrat Andrew Johnson.


Merriam-Webster.com defines "impeach" as "to charge (a public official) with a crime done while in office".

Collins English Dictionary defines "impeach" as "to charge (a public official) with an offence committed in office".




I thought it was only like two or three or something like that. I don't see what it would hurt just filing for Impeachment in Congress now, at least he would have that against him.

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