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Topic: Jobs... where's the work?
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Mon 05/12/14 08:21 AM

Welcome to Unemployment: College Grads Face Tough Job Market

www.youtube.com/watch?v=geHsK3M7IEw

1) Many college grads that were unfortunate enough to have graduated in 2012 got a hardy welcome to unemployments-ville

2) On average people that graduated in 2012 spent longer looking for their first job and once and if they got it they'd be getting paid less money than their predecessors.

3) It has changed for the worse even in just the past few years.

For those who graduated in 2006 to 2008, 14% have no first full time job.

4) For those who graduated in 2009 - 2011 their unemployment rate is at 45%.

5) Everyone from 2008 - 2012 are still trying to get the jobs that are available.

6) Those that do get work will get paid less than the average income made in 2000.

7) Starting at a lower base pay the younger graduates will never catch up to their older counterparts.

8) More students, about 2/3, graduate with more student debt at around $25,000.

9) How can graduates live and pay off their education's debt with low paying jobs?

10) Everybody's being told to go to college but the jobs and pay aren't there when the rules for getting ahead are followed.

11) This is a shake down and regulations are needed to stop it.


What The Job Market Looks Like For 2013 Graduates

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RPGpBBPfHA

1) 2 million college grads will hit the job market in coming months

2) The lack luster economy has sent graduates back home to live with their parents.

3) 3.9% of college graduates are unemployed. And 7.5% of the population is out of work.

4) There is significant movement at the community college level with employers looking for candidates.

5) The fields that hire more often are in computer science, health care, education, engineering, accountancy. Retail is where students can find jobs.

6) Community college graduates are needed for manpower (labor) and are being recruited by employers.

7) With an associate degree, technical degree, or specific certificate a graduate can get a higher paying salary job in nursing, fire, police, administrative justice, construction trades.

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Mon 05/12/14 08:40 AM


Welcome to Unemployment: College Grads Face Tough Job Market

www.youtube.com/watch?v=geHsK3M7IEw

1) Many college grads that were unfortunate enough to have graduated in 2012 got a hardy welcome to unemployments-ville

2) On average people that graduated in 2012 spent longer looking for their first job and once and if they got it they'd be getting paid less money than their predecessors.

3) It has changed for the worse even in just the past few years.

For those who graduated in 2006 to 2008, 14% have no first full time job.

4) For those who graduated in 2009 - 2011 their unemployment rate is at 45%.

5) Everyone from 2008 - 2012 are still trying to get the jobs that are available.

6) Those that do get work will get paid less than the average income made in 2000.

7) Starting at a lower base pay the younger graduates will never catch up to their older counterparts.

8) More students, about 2/3, graduate with more student debt at around $25,000.

9) How can graduates live and pay off their education's debt with low paying jobs?

10) Everybody's being told to go to college but the jobs and pay aren't there when the rules for getting ahead are followed.

11) This is a shake down and regulations are needed to stop it.


What The Job Market Looks Like For 2013 Graduates

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RPGpBBPfHA

1) 2 million college grads will hit the job market in coming months

2) The lack luster economy has sent graduates back home to live with their parents.

3) 3.9% of college graduates are unemployed. And 7.5% of the population is out of work.

4) There is significant movement at the community college level with employers looking for candidates.

5) The fields that hire more often are in computer science, health care, education, engineering, accountancy. Retail is where students can find jobs.

6) Community college graduates are needed for manpower (labor) and are being recruited by employers.

7) With an associate degree, technical degree, or specific certificate a graduate can get a higher paying salary job in nursing, fire, police, administrative justice, construction trades.


Global Employment Trends 2014: What's the Global Picture of the Job Market

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv2qjqwQ3uU

1) Over 200 million people around the world are unemployed in 2013 an increase of almost 5 million from the year before.

2) The labor market for young people worsened in almost every region. In 2013 the global youth unemployment rate was 13%. This is 3 times higher than the adult unemployment rate. This means that almost 75 million young people are looking for work. 23 million workers around the world have dropped out of the labor force due to discouragement.

3) A global labor market recovery has not occurred.

4) Economic growth is still too weak in many countries.

5) Private sector hiring is weak, unemployed workers are being stuck in unemployment for longer periods of time.

6) The outlook for 2014 doesn't look good either. There will be 4 million more unemployed in 2014. 250 million more in the next 5 years.

7) There is little chance the unemployment rate will go back to the pre-crisis level any time soon.

8) Progress regarding job quality has also stalled. Almost half of workers worldwide are in vulnerable employment.

9) Informal employment is often widespread, and is often the rule rather than the exception in the developing world.

10) Many workers are employed on a casual basis without a contract or access to social security.

11) Globally, more than 800 million workers are still living in poverty.

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 05/12/14 10:01 AM
How about big corporations bringing our jobs back home?


huh Our?

Uh, jobs are the property of employers.
If you want to own a job, then you have to create one.
That is what self-employed people do.

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Mon 05/12/14 11:44 AM

The truth is, the US economy has changed drastically since manufacturing was all sent to China, et. Al. Places like Detroit have become wastelands but in other areas, like Texas, the economy has done well. Houston has an excellent job market.


Well I would say that Forbes would agree with that analysis:

Texas Dominates The Best Cities For Good Jobs

But what about the long term effects? Austin is raking in all those high tech industries escaping California and likewise gets to have all those high tech people that are escaping California. And there are more and more stories of how Austin is changing and not for the better. It seems you can take the liberal out of California but can't separate the liberal from the new Texan.

And for higher paying jobs, nothing like Dallas and that wonderful military/industrial complex with Bell Helicopter and the infamous Lockheed Martin's F35. But let's not sell Dallas short what with the back office operations of Bank of America and can't forget all those large law and accounting offices, I mean they do add so much production to the economy.

And Houston, all those energy sector jobs. Let's not forget to thank Exxon Mobile for consolidating and bringing 10,000 jobs to the Houston area. And in times past, Exxon Mobile kept growing even as the rest of the world collapsed around us, from 2000 to the present.

With what is happening in this economy, Texas would be a great place to be at least for a while.

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Mon 05/12/14 08:30 PM

Welcome to Unemployment: College Grads Face Tough Job Market

www.youtube.com/watch?v=geHsK3M7IEw

1) Many college grads that were unfortunate enough to have graduated in 2012 got a hardy welcome to unemployments-ville

2) On average people that graduated in 2012 spent longer looking for their first job and once and if they got it they'd be getting paid less money than their predecessors.

3) It has changed for the worse even in just the past few years.

For those who graduated in 2006 to 2008, 14% have no first full time job.

4) For those who graduated in 2009 - 2011 their unemployment rate is at 45%.

5) Everyone from 2008 - 2012 are still trying to get the jobs that are available.

6) Those that do get work will get paid less than the average income made in 2000.

7) Starting at a lower base pay the younger graduates will never catch up to their older counterparts.

8) More students, about 2/3, graduate with more student debt at around $25,000.

9) How can graduates live and pay off their education's debt with low paying jobs?

10) Everybody's being told to go to college but the jobs and pay aren't there when the rules for getting ahead are followed.

11) This is a shake down and regulations are needed to stop it.




I would like to point out specifically this one.

5) Everyone from 2008 - 2012 are still trying to get the jobs that are available.

What a bunch of BS. I graduate in 08. I got my job by doing something David mentioned earlier... moving. I lived and went to school in Louisiana and took my first job in upstate NY. I got laid off a little over a year later when the new Administration cut defense spending. I had another job offer on the table but turned it down to spend some time in Asia teaching English. I came back in summer of 2011 but didn't get a job until March 2012. (hard to compete with new grads when you only have 1 year legit experience and took over a year off from your career) Anyway that job paid 40% more than the one I had in NY. This one happened to be in CO. I ended up getting married and there were no jobs for my wife in CO so now we are in Texas. We are closer to family, wife has a good job, I got a pay raise at my new job and its super laid back and awesome. Oh also I forgot to mention I left the first job in CO and got a different one (pay raise). First one was boring and I didn't really do anything so I left; CEO was sad about it because he really liked me.

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Tue 05/13/14 01:23 AM


Welcome to Unemployment: College Grads Face Tough Job Market

www.youtube.com/watch?v=geHsK3M7IEw

1) Many college grads that were unfortunate enough to have graduated in 2012 got a hardy welcome to unemployments-ville

2) On average people that graduated in 2012 spent longer looking for their first job and once and if they got it they'd be getting paid less money than their predecessors.

3) It has changed for the worse even in just the past few years.

For those who graduated in 2006 to 2008, 14% have no first full time job.

4) For those who graduated in 2009 - 2011 their unemployment rate is at 45%.

5) Everyone from 2008 - 2012 are still trying to get the jobs that are available.

6) Those that do get work will get paid less than the average income made in 2000.

7) Starting at a lower base pay the younger graduates will never catch up to their older counterparts.

8) More students, about 2/3, graduate with more student debt at around $25,000.

9) How can graduates live and pay off their education's debt with low paying jobs?

10) Everybody's being told to go to college but the jobs and pay aren't there when the rules for getting ahead are followed.

11) This is a shake down and regulations are needed to stop it.




I would like to point out specifically this one.

5) Everyone from 2008 - 2012 are still trying to get the jobs that are available.

What a bunch of BS. I graduate in 08. I got my job by doing something David mentioned earlier... moving. I lived and went to school in Louisiana and took my first job in upstate NY. I got laid off a little over a year later when the new Administration cut defense spending. I had another job offer on the table but turned it down to spend some time in Asia teaching English. I came back in summer of 2011 but didn't get a job until March 2012. (hard to compete with new grads when you only have 1 year legit experience and took over a year off from your career) Anyway that job paid 40% more than the one I had in NY. This one happened to be in CO. I ended up getting married and there were no jobs for my wife in CO so now we are in Texas. We are closer to family, wife has a good job, I got a pay raise at my new job and its super laid back and awesome. Oh also I forgot to mention I left the first job in CO and got a different one (pay raise). First one was boring and I didn't really do anything so I left; CEO was sad about it because he really liked me.


Hey Chaz! Welcome back!

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Tue 05/13/14 01:33 AM

How about big corporations bringing our jobs back home?


huh Our?

Uh, jobs are the property of employers.
If you want to own a job, then you have to create one.
That is what self-employed people do.


Thank you for the public chastisement, I'll watch my words more carefully. sad2

lonelyman3036's photo
Tue 05/13/14 01:44 AM
A lot of people go to college that really shouldn't. Here in Texas you can make 70 thousand annually driving a truck.

Chazster's photo
Tue 05/13/14 05:43 AM



Welcome to Unemployment: College Grads Face Tough Job Market

www.youtube.com/watch?v=geHsK3M7IEw

1) Many college grads that were unfortunate enough to have graduated in 2012 got a hardy welcome to unemployments-ville

2) On average people that graduated in 2012 spent longer looking for their first job and once and if they got it they'd be getting paid less money than their predecessors.

3) It has changed for the worse even in just the past few years.

For those who graduated in 2006 to 2008, 14% have no first full time job.

4) For those who graduated in 2009 - 2011 their unemployment rate is at 45%.

5) Everyone from 2008 - 2012 are still trying to get the jobs that are available.

6) Those that do get work will get paid less than the average income made in 2000.

7) Starting at a lower base pay the younger graduates will never catch up to their older counterparts.

8) More students, about 2/3, graduate with more student debt at around $25,000.

9) How can graduates live and pay off their education's debt with low paying jobs?

10) Everybody's being told to go to college but the jobs and pay aren't there when the rules for getting ahead are followed.

11) This is a shake down and regulations are needed to stop it.




I would like to point out specifically this one.

5) Everyone from 2008 - 2012 are still trying to get the jobs that are available.

What a bunch of BS. I graduate in 08. I got my job by doing something David mentioned earlier... moving. I lived and went to school in Louisiana and took my first job in upstate NY. I got laid off a little over a year later when the new Administration cut defense spending. I had another job offer on the table but turned it down to spend some time in Asia teaching English. I came back in summer of 2011 but didn't get a job until March 2012. (hard to compete with new grads when you only have 1 year legit experience and took over a year off from your career) Anyway that job paid 40% more than the one I had in NY. This one happened to be in CO. I ended up getting married and there were no jobs for my wife in CO so now we are in Texas. We are closer to family, wife has a good job, I got a pay raise at my new job and its super laid back and awesome. Oh also I forgot to mention I left the first job in CO and got a different one (pay raise). First one was boring and I didn't really do anything so I left; CEO was sad about it because he really liked me.


Hey Chaz! Welcome back!


Yea it's been a while. I am gonna try to pop in more often lol. How ya been?

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Tue 05/13/14 05:25 PM

I would like to point out specifically this one.

5) Everyone from 2008 - 2012 are still trying to get the jobs that are available.

What a bunch of BS. I graduate in 08. I got my job by doing something David mentioned earlier... moving. I lived and went to school in Louisiana and took my first job in upstate NY. I got laid off a little over a year later when the new Administration cut defense spending. I had another job offer on the table but turned it down to spend some time in Asia teaching English. I came back in summer of 2011 but didn't get a job until March 2012. (hard to compete with new grads when you only have 1 year legit experience and took over a year off from your career) Anyway that job paid 40% more than the one I had in NY. This one happened to be in CO. I ended up getting married and there were no jobs for my wife in CO so now we are in Texas. We are closer to family, wife has a good job, I got a pay raise at my new job and its super laid back and awesome. Oh also I forgot to mention I left the first job in CO and got a different one (pay raise). First one was boring and I didn't really do anything so I left; CEO was sad about it because he really liked me.


It all depends on what one is willing to do or accept but the most important part is the taking of personal responsibility and getting the job done. Life belongs to those that make it happen not to the one waiting for it to come by.

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Tue 05/13/14 05:26 PM

A lot of people go to college that really shouldn't. Here in Texas you can make 70 thousand annually driving a truck.


And probably 60 thousand with a college degree.

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Wed 05/14/14 05:46 AM


A lot of people go to college that really shouldn't. Here in Texas you can make 70 thousand annually driving a truck.


And probably 60 thousand with a college degree.

How many hours for driving that truck? Not a bad gig for a single guy who doesn't mind being on the road.

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 05/14/14 05:47 AM


How about big corporations bringing our jobs back home?


huh Our?

Uh, jobs are the property of employers.
If you want to own a job, then you have to create one.
That is what self-employed people do.


Thank you for the public chastisement, I'll watch my words more carefully. sad2


It wasn't meant as a chastisement.

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Wed 05/14/14 06:01 AM



A lot of people go to college that really shouldn't. Here in Texas you can make 70 thousand annually driving a truck.


And probably 60 thousand with a college degree.

How many hours for driving that truck? Not a bad gig for a single guy who doesn't mind being on the road.


I manage a fleet of 120 trucks and 168 drivers. Many of my drivers hold degrees. I myself, do not have achaz degree!
Chaz, get a class A cdl with an X endorsement and pick your job. My guys are home every night and work 12-16 hour days.

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Wed 05/14/14 10:17 AM




A lot of people go to college that really shouldn't. Here in Texas you can make 70 thousand annually driving a truck.


And probably 60 thousand with a college degree.

How many hours for driving that truck? Not a bad gig for a single guy who doesn't mind being on the road.


I manage a fleet of 120 trucks and 168 drivers. Many of my drivers hold degrees. I myself, do not have achaz degree!
Chaz, get a class A cdl with an X endorsement and pick your job. My guys are home every night and work 12-16 hour days.

Oh I wasn't talking about me lol. I have an Engineering degree/job. I make good money. I was just curious. But one thing my company does is fleet management. If you do GPS tracking of your trucks you might have heard of us. You might even be our customer lol.

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Wed 05/14/14 11:26 AM
I use PeopleNet.

Chazster's photo
Wed 05/14/14 04:32 PM

I use PeopleNet.


Every heard of Geoforce?

lonelyman3036's photo
Wed 05/14/14 08:26 PM
Yes. Pretty cool!

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