After reading the whole thread, I tend to agree with you Dutts...Celebs influence/control fashion trends...

There's nothing more emasculating than a man that voluntarily acts, looks, and wants to be treated like a woman or a joke.

Men that are portrayed as anything other than the masculine man they were born to be are putting themselves in the position to be judged on appearances and it's nobodies fault but their own.

As far as there being a global push to devalue all men based on the actions of some, well, that's like saying that all women are whores too.

Realistically, we have to take credit for our own actions and stand or fall based on our own individuality, instead of blaming others for how they might make us look.

Birds of a feather...

The point of tight jeans is to show women your meat. Last time I went out to buy jeans I had a couple of women checking me out when I tried them on. It's all about getting noticed. Back in the day when I used to wear skin tight jeans and go out to the pub a lot I felt like a male stripper when I walked into the lounge bar in my local at the weekend when the girls were on their nights out. No way was I fashionable then because most other guys were dressing casual but I still got plenty of female attention and women trying to drag me onto the dance floor and stuff. A woman is only going to think that you're gay if you don't do anything about it when they come on to you.

I am offended by the insinuation of me "blaming". What I am saying is that the media has an agenda. The select few are publiscised while millions of real men are either ignored or ridiculed as being "red necks".

Yes I feel there is a massive focus on the homosexual way of fashion, you can see this in current pop music and current fashion trends etc..

I feel it will help balance out the masculine and feminine energies so to speak so that we become more even and definitely less divided and more compatible once we balance out these energies within us and stop rejecting the feminine aspects that each man has within him and vice versa for a woman.

But mainly integrating the feminine aspects within all of us and honouring it basically is one way to look at it. Getting rid of the overly negative egotistical masculine traits and toning them down and becoming more of our true selves.

It was not my intent to bring offense.

But merely to point out that men who want to stand out will be noticed, whether in a positive or negative view. And it's by their own choice. The media isn't pushing them to perform.

Rather, if the media can help promote their agendas while they equally share in the proceeds we call this entertainment.

So if fathers are portrayed as goofballs and men in general are dumbasses, that must be where the money's at.

To emasculate is to weaken.

This is still a man's world, and strong men still rule, they just don't have a need to grab the limelight because they know their innate power and authority doesn't feed on/off their celebrity.

My apologies for any slight perceived.

No it is I who should apologize. you are definitely correct about not seeking the limelight.