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Topic: Can anyone dispute the following statement?
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Fri 02/28/14 04:10 PM
The genesis tale always sounded like the big bang theory and the evolutionary theory to me.

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Mon 03/03/14 09:10 AM

The genesis tale always sounded like the big bang theory and the evolutionary theory to me.

I agree! Evolution without intelligent design would produce some pretty funny looking animals. The species would be mixed with past, present and future versions as they evolve. When the superior version was born, the rest would still be reproducing.

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Mon 03/03/14 09:13 AM


The genesis tale always sounded like the big bang theory and the evolutionary theory to me.

I agree! Evolution without intelligent design would produce some pretty funny looking animals. The species would be mixed with past, present and future versions as they evolve. When the superior version was born, the rest would still be reproducing.

Maybe not future animals, but characteristics that will become developed later.

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Mon 03/03/14 09:26 AM


The genesis tale always sounded like the big bang theory and the evolutionary theory to me.

I agree! Evolution without intelligent design would produce some pretty funny looking animals. The species would be mixed with past, present and future versions as they evolve. When the superior version was born, the rest would still be reproducing.


maybe you read more about how evolution works... the main thing about evolution is survival of the fittest... thats why millions of animals have evolved and died out, in the billions of years since the planet was formed...

prashant01's photo
Mon 03/03/14 09:34 AM

Can anyone dispute the following statement?

"Any of the thousands of proposed 'gods' MAY actually exist, and if so MAY influence human lives (and proposed 'afterlives'); however, verifiable evidence showing which, if any, are real is lacking."

"Verifiable evidence" as used here indicates information more substantial than opinion, belief, emotion, conjecture, testimonial, psychotic experience, folklore, legend, fable, fiction and fantasy – information that any interested person can use to determine truth and accuracy of claims and stories.


Thousands of proposed gods!

Do you think you know god?

What is the difference in actual existence & existence?

Why are you limiting your question about influence of god ONLY ON human lives and proposed afterlives?How about the nature,animals & whole universe? Do u think something else is governing other living & non living things?

I would say,your thinking power & it's limitations too are verifiable evidence of that almighty.....say him god or dog or something else is TEMPORARILY up to you. One day neither you nor me would be able to discuss about his existence.

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Mon 03/03/14 09:37 AM


Can anyone dispute the following statement?

"Any of the thousands of proposed 'gods' MAY actually exist, and if so MAY influence human lives (and proposed 'afterlives'); however, verifiable evidence showing which, if any, are real is lacking."

"Verifiable evidence" as used here indicates information more substantial than opinion, belief, emotion, conjecture, testimonial, psychotic experience, folklore, legend, fable, fiction and fantasy – information that any interested person can use to determine truth and accuracy of claims and stories.


Thousands of proposed gods!

Do you think you know god?

What is the difference in actual existence & existence?

Why are you limiting your question about influence of god ONLY ON human lives and proposed afterlives?How about the nature,animals & whole universe? Do u think something else is governing other living & non living things?

I would say,your thinking power & it's limitations too are verifiable evidence of that almighty.....say him god or dog or something else is TEMPORARILY up to you. One day neither you nor me would be able to discuss about his existence.



i think that's his point, that any god is just in peoples mind, a nonexistant entity with no real basis for facts...

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Mon 03/03/14 10:00 AM



The genesis tale always sounded like the big bang theory and the evolutionary theory to me.

I agree! Evolution without intelligent design would produce some pretty funny looking animals. The species would be mixed with past, present and future versions as they evolve. When the superior version was born, the rest would still be reproducing.


maybe you read more about how evolution works... the main thing about evolution is survival of the fittest... thats why millions of animals have evolved and died out, in the billions of years since the planet was formed...

There has been plenty of animals alright, and the fittest survive. Each reproduces after it's own kind. There is no record of any animal changing into another species. Stromatolites are still Stromatolites 3.5 Billion years later.

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Mon 03/03/14 10:04 AM



Can anyone dispute the following statement?

"Any of the thousands of proposed 'gods' MAY actually exist, and if so MAY influence human lives (and proposed 'afterlives'); however, verifiable evidence showing which, if any, are real is lacking."

"Verifiable evidence" as used here indicates information more substantial than opinion, belief, emotion, conjecture, testimonial, psychotic experience, folklore, legend, fable, fiction and fantasy – information that any interested person can use to determine truth and accuracy of claims and stories.


Thousands of proposed gods!

Do you think you know god?

What is the difference in actual existence & existence?

Why are you limiting your question about influence of god ONLY ON human lives and proposed afterlives?How about the nature,animals & whole universe? Do u think something else is governing other living & non living things?

I would say,your thinking power & it's limitations too are verifiable evidence of that almighty.....say him god or dog or something else is TEMPORARILY up to you. One day neither you nor me would be able to discuss about his existence.



i think that's his point, that any god is just in peoples mind, a nonexistant entity with no real basis for facts...


Very few did understood,realized & experienced his existence.,other fellows ( including me too) are either following the path shown by them (blindly/knowingly/passionately/willingly/unwillingly/selfishly) or criticizing them.

That power is beyond our imagination,perception,analytic powers.

Those who understood,realized & experienced his existence were too not able to elaborate,explain,prove his existence to others.

The thousands of gods whose existence is questioned about are just limitations of our imagination,perception & beliefs.

If believed; mine,your,his & else everything's existence is verifiable evidence of that power.If not believed then our such thoughts too are evidences of his existence only.





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Mon 03/03/14 11:34 AM




Can anyone dispute the following statement?

"Any of the thousands of proposed 'gods' MAY actually exist, and if so MAY influence human lives (and proposed 'afterlives'); however, verifiable evidence showing which, if any, are real is lacking."

"Verifiable evidence" as used here indicates information more substantial than opinion, belief, emotion, conjecture, testimonial, psychotic experience, folklore, legend, fable, fiction and fantasy – information that any interested person can use to determine truth and accuracy of claims and stories.


Thousands of proposed gods!

Do you think you know god?

What is the difference in actual existence & existence?

Why are you limiting your question about influence of god ONLY ON human lives and proposed afterlives?How about the nature,animals & whole universe? Do u think something else is governing other living & non living things?

I would say,your thinking power & it's limitations too are verifiable evidence of that almighty.....say him god or dog or something else is TEMPORARILY up to you. One day neither you nor me would be able to discuss about his existence.



i think that's his point, that any god is just in peoples mind, a nonexistant entity with no real basis for facts...


Very few did understood,realized & experienced his existence.,other fellows ( including me too) are either following the path shown by them (blindly/knowingly/passionately/willingly/unwillingly/selfishly) or criticizing them.

That power is beyond our imagination,perception,analytic powers.

Those who understood,realized & experienced his existence were too not able to elaborate,explain,prove his existence to others.

The thousands of gods whose existence is questioned about are just limitations of our imagination,perception & beliefs.

If believed; mine,your,his & else everything's existence is verifiable evidence of that power.If not believed then our such thoughts too are evidences of his existence only.







yea, yea... the continuum transfunctioner:
A device whose mystery is only exceeded by its power.

sounds every religious persons explanation of what god is... fact is, NOBODY KNOWS... and for every religious person act like they know is beyond ridiculous...


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Mon 03/03/14 11:35 AM
John I would have to agree with your statement if you held my feet to the fire because I have no "actual" proof of my god Jesus Christ,however I use his teachings as a moral compass in my life so in a same sense I do feel he is actual.

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Mon 03/03/14 01:30 PM


Can anyone dispute the following statement?

"Any of the thousands of proposed 'gods' MAY actually exist, and if so MAY influence human lives (and proposed 'afterlives'); however, verifiable evidence showing which, if any, are real is lacking."

"Verifiable evidence" as used here indicates information more substantial than opinion, belief, emotion, conjecture, testimonial, psychotic experience, folklore, legend, fable, fiction and fantasy --�� information that any interested person can use to determine truth and accuracy of claims and stories.


Thousands of proposed gods!

Yes, thousands of "gods" are proposed (and/or feared, loved, worshiped) by humans. Anyone who is interested can Google the term "List of gods" to learn their names and something about the religions that worship them.

Do you think you know god?

Heck no. None of the gods have made contact with me.

Some people claim to know quite a bit about gods after reading a book written by humans telling of their opinions about gods OR listening to lectures by self-selected "priests" who claim special knowledge or connections.

What is the difference in actual existence & existence?

The term "actual" was added to discourage discussion of "spiritual" existence (whatever that may be taken to mean)

Why are you limiting your question about influence of god ONLY ON human lives and proposed afterlives?

Those who are interested in discussing the influence of "gods" on dogs or plants or whatever are welcome to start a thread on that topic.

I would say,your thinking power & it's limitations too are verifiable evidence of that almighty.....

Exactly how is human intellectual limitation "verifiable evidence of that almighty?"

Do you propose that a favorite god has superior abilities? Based on what evidence?

One day neither you nor me would be able to discuss about his existence.

I agree that dead bodies will not discuss gods.

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Mon 03/03/14 01:37 PM

John I would have to agree with your statement if you held my feet to the fire because I have no "actual" proof of my god Jesus Christ,however I use his teachings as a moral compass in my life so in a same sense I do feel he is actual.

Jack,

Thanks for a reasoned reply. Rest assured that I won't hold your feet to a fire.

It is not unreasonable to use at least some of the teachings attributed to Jesus as a "moral compass". Thomas Jefferson would probably agree with you (since he emphasized the teachings and removed references to supernaturalism).


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