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The Iranians are posturing for their own people and propaganda. Nothing has changed much.
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Wait a minute? America, won WW2? Aye with help from us Brits? We fought the Nazis for nearly 6 years without getting invaded and took the best their Air Force, etc, could throw at us, before your mob threw their hat in the ring? Iran, are calling your bluff, as they know with your gung-ho nature what the reaction will probably be? The World is watching, as it's your move? The Iranians have nothing to lose. That's why they're there. Understand that? Must be one of those new Common Core history books you have been reading. First, your timeline is totally screwed, the war only lasted 6 years, 1939 to 1945. These united States timeline for entering the war, 1941: December 7 - The Japanese launch a sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii December 11 - Germany and Italy declare war on the United States; then the United States declares war on Germany and Italy. The people of these united States were against the war in Europe in 1939. At that time we weren't the world's police state. But FDR and the military industrial complex just couldn't miss out on all those profits. First we started by supplying Europe and Russia but that just wasn't enough. So they came up with this great scheme, strangle Japan so they wouldn't have an option, wow the same ploy Odumbo tried to pull on Syria. And oh, by the way if our greedy military industrial complex didn't get involved Hitler would of been dining on roast beef and yorkshire pudding in 1942. Luck of the draw that egomaniac Hitler decided he could simultaneously kick Russian butt in the middle of winter. Oh, and I loved it when... British Prime Minister David Cameron loses parliamentary vote on Syrian military strike |
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everybody has something to lose Yeah, but you should never get into a pissing contest or war with someone with less to lose than you. Ho Chi Minh sure made that painfully obvious. |
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Well look what happened in Vietnam, when you were left to your own devices? Enough said! Say are you an offspring of the war brides from the Falklands? 
You really do need to read better history books, the ones you are quoting from have been approved by Downing Street and that bitty over in the castle. Vietnam was all about England and America bowing to the french to re-enslave the people when we had promised them their sovereignty. Imagine all that crap over the frogs. While you sit in your comfy little flat spouting bulldung, I lived that experience and lost a lot of my friends to that imperial alliance coalition. It was all about England and France and their empires, by the way, how's that empire thing working out for ya? Oh and what's this, a little dissension at home? British PM warns Scots against split "British Prime Minister David Cameron has made an emotional appeal for Scotland to remain part of the United Kingdom, warning Scots a vote for independence would undermine Britain's global clout and imperil its financial and political stability." Wow, my respect for the Scots just jumped to the top of the peg. And you really should take care as to what can of worms you choose to open. |
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Wait a minute? America, won WW2? Aye with help from us Brits? We fought the Nazis for nearly 6 years without getting invaded and took the best their Air Force, etc, could throw at us, before your mob threw their hat in the ring? Iran, are calling your bluff, as they know with your gung-ho nature what the reaction will probably be? The World is watching, as it's your move? The Iranians have nothing to lose. That's why they're there. Understand that? Must be one of those new Common Core history books you have been reading. First, your timeline is totally screwed, the war only lasted 6 years, 1939 to 1945. These united States timeline for entering the war, 1941: December 7 - The Japanese launch a sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii December 11 - Germany and Italy declare war on the United States; then the United States declares war on Germany and Italy. The people of these united States were against the war in Europe in 1939. At that time we weren't the world's police state. But FDR and the military industrial complex just couldn't miss out on all those profits. First we started by supplying Europe and Russia but that just wasn't enough. So they came up with this great scheme, strangle Japan so they wouldn't have an option, wow the same ploy Odumbo tried to pull on Syria. And oh, by the way if our greedy military industrial complex didn't get involved Hitler would of been dining on roast beef and yorkshire pudding in 1942. Luck of the draw that egomaniac Hitler decided he could simultaneously kick Russian butt in the middle of winter. Oh, and I loved it when... British Prime Minister David Cameron loses parliamentary vote on Syrian military strike I know the dates you fool! No common core history books at my school. I got an education, but I can keep my posts short on here also. It's arrogant Americans like you, that give the rest of the decent ones a bad name! Obviously not you got it wrong. Sure there are, you have been quoting from them, the ones with the adjusted dates approved by their leaders. Arrogant, yes but on your part when you feel you can post untruths and then get pissed when corrected. And I lived in England long ago before you were even born when it was only a half slave country that was gradually abandoning the Magna Carta in defiance to what your forefathers had so nobly given you. It is the youth of England that enjoys the dole coupled with worse politicians that even we have that has driven that country into a total entitlement mess, even worse than the United States. |
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A senior Iranian naval commander says his country has sent several warships to the Atlantic Ocean, close to U.S. maritime borders for the first time. The commander of Iran's Northern Navy Fleet, Admiral Afshin Rezayee Haddad, is quoted by the official IRNA news agency as saying Saturday that the vessels have already begun the journey to the Atlantic Ocean via waters near South Africa. "Iran's military fleet is approaching the United States' maritime borders, and this move has a message," Haddad reportedly said, according to Fars, a semi-official Iranian news agency. Iranian officials said last month that the fleet consisted of the destroyer Sabalan and the logistic helicopter carrier Khark, which will be on a three-month mission. The ships are carrying some 30 navy academy cadets for training along with their regular crews. Haddad says the fleet is approaching U.S. maritime borders for the first time. The Islamic Republic considers the move as a response to U.S. naval deployments near its own coastlines. The U.S. Navy's 5th fleet is based in nearby Bahrain -- across the gulf from Iran. Iran has regularly deployed warships to the Gulf of Aden off the eastern coast of Africa to fight privacy and protect commercial ships. It has also sent its warships to Syrian waters in recent years. In 2012, Iran said it aims to put warships in international waters off the U.S. coast within the next few years, and extend its reach as far as Antarctica. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/08/iran-sending-warships-close-to-us-borders/ They wouldn't be pulling this crap if we didn't have a coward in the White House. We should humiliate the Iranians and meet these two boats with a whole carrier group right inside our waters and place them there for three months. When they launch their little toy choppers we launch F-18's or F-22 from land to remind them they are no match to the US and prove in in front of the whole world and humiliate them in front of the whole world. Wont happen, we have a coward in office, who has been letting Iran push our buttons and come closer and closer the past 6 years. If diplomacy was working, they wouldn't be playing these type of games. Once again Obama has been taken for a fool. So let me understand this, it is ok for us to intimidate the countries of the world but if one does it back even though it is hopeless, we should be indignant? And I am sure that that is exactly what Iran wants, to just show the world what a big bully we really are. And then we wonder why we are so hated around the world. No, Iran wants to show that it can push the US around and prove that the US is weak. But the US is weak and just one big bully. I just love the way Iran keeps giving us the old middle finger. Such a source of amusement. But sir the problem is you keep confusing our government with us, the people. The same can be said for the Iranian government for the Iranian people that are actually just like us, mostly really nice people that just want to live their lives and enjoy happiness and prosperity. So with attitudes such as yours that keeps encouraging our government to be the bullies they are, is it any wonder there is so much tension in the world. America is far from weak, we may have weak leaders right now but that will change. Were such a big bully that when anyone has a problem they come to us and as us for aid or help. Not to mention we have the right to protect our Maritime borders with a show of force. The reason America won WW2, the Cold War, took out ruthless dictators in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya within a matter of days is because a show of American military might. lol, some Brits are just so grateful we saved their azz's back then... look what happened in Germany (not to mention London) when you were left on yours....that is what a team is about ...where would you be without your middlebacks and where would they be w/out a goalie....in 'nam we were tryna clean up the French mess. Ultimately the country is united and an ally. The SEAN nations are independent and democratic or heading that way... so the clean up was not an entire loss. Oh, Larsson I have a movie for you....different war...the first ww...it is called Joyeeaux Noel. helps if you have a bit of french and german (which I do), or there may be subtitles. The movie is in frsnch german and brogue...about...team spirit, brotherhood in the trenches on a Christmas Eve in France (the french battlefields). I think you'd appreciate it from the way you speak of things. The english speaking troops in the film are scots I believe. namaste 
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Wait a minute? America, won WW2? Aye with help from us Brits? We fought the Nazis for nearly 6 years without getting invaded and took the best their Air Force, etc, could throw at us, before your mob threw their hat in the ring? Iran, are calling your bluff, as they know with your gung-ho nature what the reaction will probably be? The World is watching, as it's your move? The Iranians have nothing to lose. That's why they're there. Understand that? Must be one of those new Common Core history books you have been reading. First, your timeline is totally screwed, the war only lasted 6 years, 1939 to 1945. These united States timeline for entering the war, 1941: December 7 - The Japanese launch a sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii December 11 - Germany and Italy declare war on the United States; then the United States declares war on Germany and Italy. The people of these united States were against the war in Europe in 1939. At that time we weren't the world's police state. But FDR and the military industrial complex just couldn't miss out on all those profits. First we started by supplying Europe and Russia but that just wasn't enough. So they came up with this great scheme, strangle Japan so they wouldn't have an option, wow the same ploy Odumbo tried to pull on Syria. And oh, by the way if our greedy military industrial complex didn't get involved Hitler would of been dining on roast beef and yorkshire pudding in 1942. Luck of the draw that egomaniac Hitler decided he could simultaneously kick Russian butt in the middle of winter. Oh, and I loved it when... British Prime Minister David Cameron loses parliamentary vote on Syrian military strike I know the dates you fool! No common core history books at my school. I got an education, but I can keep my posts short on here also. It's arrogant Americans like you, that give the rest of the decent ones a bad name! Obviously not you got it wrong. Sure there are, you have been quoting from them, the ones with the adjusted dates approved by their leaders. Arrogant, yes but on your part when you feel you can post untruths and then get pissed when corrected. And I lived in England long ago before you were even born when it was only a half slave country that was gradually abandoning the Magna Carta in defiance to what your forefathers had so nobly given you. It is the youth of England that enjoys the dole coupled with worse politicians that even we have that has driven that country into a total entitlement mess, even worse than the United States. |
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A senior Iranian naval commander says his country has sent several warships to the Atlantic Ocean, close to U.S. maritime borders for the first time. The commander of Iran's Northern Navy Fleet, Admiral Afshin Rezayee Haddad, is quoted by the official IRNA news agency as saying Saturday that the vessels have already begun the journey to the Atlantic Ocean via waters near South Africa. "Iran's military fleet is approaching the United States' maritime borders, and this move has a message," Haddad reportedly said, according to Fars, a semi-official Iranian news agency. Iranian officials said last month that the fleet consisted of the destroyer Sabalan and the logistic helicopter carrier Khark, which will be on a three-month mission. The ships are carrying some 30 navy academy cadets for training along with their regular crews. Haddad says the fleet is approaching U.S. maritime borders for the first time. The Islamic Republic considers the move as a response to U.S. naval deployments near its own coastlines. The U.S. Navy's 5th fleet is based in nearby Bahrain -- across the gulf from Iran. Iran has regularly deployed warships to the Gulf of Aden off the eastern coast of Africa to fight privacy and protect commercial ships. It has also sent its warships to Syrian waters in recent years. In 2012, Iran said it aims to put warships in international waters off the U.S. coast within the next few years, and extend its reach as far as Antarctica. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/08/iran-sending-warships-close-to-us-borders/ They wouldn't be pulling this crap if we didn't have a coward in the White House. We should humiliate the Iranians and meet these two boats with a whole carrier group right inside our waters and place them there for three months. When they launch their little toy choppers we launch F-18's or F-22 from land to remind them they are no match to the US and prove in in front of the whole world and humiliate them in front of the whole world. Wont happen, we have a coward in office, who has been letting Iran push our buttons and come closer and closer the past 6 years. If diplomacy was working, they wouldn't be playing these type of games. Once again Obama has been taken for a fool. So let me understand this, it is ok for us to intimidate the countries of the world but if one does it back even though it is hopeless, we should be indignant? And I am sure that that is exactly what Iran wants, to just show the world what a big bully we really are. And then we wonder why we are so hated around the world. No, Iran wants to show that it can push the US around and prove that the US is weak. But the US is weak and just one big bully. I just love the way Iran keeps giving us the old middle finger. Such a source of amusement. But sir the problem is you keep confusing our government with us, the people. The same can be said for the Iranian government for the Iranian people that are actually just like us, mostly really nice people that just want to live their lives and enjoy happiness and prosperity. So with attitudes such as yours that keeps encouraging our government to be the bullies they are, is it any wonder there is so much tension in the world. America is far from weak, we may have weak leaders right now but that will change. Were such a big bully that when anyone has a problem they come to us and as us for aid or help. Not to mention we have the right to protect our Maritime borders with a show of force. The reason America won WW2, the Cold War, took out ruthless dictators in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya within a matter of days is because a show of American military might. lol, some Brits are just so grateful we saved their azz's back then... look what happened in Germany (not to mention London) when you were left on yours....that is what a team is about ...where would you be without your middlebacks and where would they be w/out a goalie....in 'nam we were tryna clean up the French mess. Ultimately the country is united and an ally. The SEAN nations are independent and democratic or heading that way... so the clean up was not an entire loss. Oh, Larsson I have a movie for you....different war...the first ww...it is called Joyeeaux Noel. helps if you have a bit of french and german (which I do), or there may be subtitles. The movie is in frsnch german and brogue...about...team spirit, brotherhood in the trenches on a Christmas Eve in France (the french battlefields). I think you'd appreciate it from the way you speak of things. The english speaking troops in the film are scots I believe. namaste
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A senior Iranian naval commander says his country has sent several warships to the Atlantic Ocean, close to U.S. maritime borders for the first time. The commander of Iran's Northern Navy Fleet, Admiral Afshin Rezayee Haddad, is quoted by the official IRNA news agency as saying Saturday that the vessels have already begun the journey to the Atlantic Ocean via waters near South Africa. "Iran's military fleet is approaching the United States' maritime borders, and this move has a message," Haddad reportedly said, according to Fars, a semi-official Iranian news agency. Iranian officials said last month that the fleet consisted of the destroyer Sabalan and the logistic helicopter carrier Khark, which will be on a three-month mission. The ships are carrying some 30 navy academy cadets for training along with their regular crews. Haddad says the fleet is approaching U.S. maritime borders for the first time. The Islamic Republic considers the move as a response to U.S. naval deployments near its own coastlines. The U.S. Navy's 5th fleet is based in nearby Bahrain -- across the gulf from Iran. Iran has regularly deployed warships to the Gulf of Aden off the eastern coast of Africa to fight privacy and protect commercial ships. It has also sent its warships to Syrian waters in recent years. In 2012, Iran said it aims to put warships in international waters off the U.S. coast within the next few years, and extend its reach as far as Antarctica. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/08/iran-sending-warships-close-to-us-borders/ They wouldn't be pulling this crap if we didn't have a coward in the White House. We should humiliate the Iranians and meet these two boats with a whole carrier group right inside our waters and place them there for three months. When they launch their little toy choppers we launch F-18's or F-22 from land to remind them they are no match to the US and prove in in front of the whole world and humiliate them in front of the whole world. Wont happen, we have a coward in office, who has been letting Iran push our buttons and come closer and closer the past 6 years. If diplomacy was working, they wouldn't be playing these type of games. Once again Obama has been taken for a fool. So let me understand this, it is ok for us to intimidate the countries of the world but if one does it back even though it is hopeless, we should be indignant? And I am sure that that is exactly what Iran wants, to just show the world what a big bully we really are. And then we wonder why we are so hated around the world. No, Iran wants to show that it can push the US around and prove that the US is weak. But the US is weak and just one big bully. I just love the way Iran keeps giving us the old middle finger. Such a source of amusement. But sir the problem is you keep confusing our government with us, the people. The same can be said for the Iranian government for the Iranian people that are actually just like us, mostly really nice people that just want to live their lives and enjoy happiness and prosperity. So with attitudes such as yours that keeps encouraging our government to be the bullies they are, is it any wonder there is so much tension in the world. America is far from weak, we may have weak leaders right now but that will change. Were such a big bully that when anyone has a problem they come to us and as us for aid or help. Not to mention we have the right to protect our Maritime borders with a show of force. The reason America won WW2, the Cold War, took out ruthless dictators in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya within a matter of days is because a show of American military might. lol, some Brits are just so grateful we saved their azz's back then... look what happened in Germany (not to mention London) when you were left on yours....that is what a team is about ...where would you be without your middlebacks and where would they be w/out a goalie....in 'nam we were tryna clean up the French mess. Ultimately the country is united and an ally. The SEAN nations are independent and democratic or heading that way... so the clean up was not an entire loss. Oh, Larsson I have a movie for you....different war...the first ww...it is called Joyeeaux Noel. helps if you have a bit of french and german (which I do), or there may be subtitles. The movie is in frsnch german and brogue...about...team spirit, brotherhood in the trenches on a Christmas Eve in France (the french battlefields). I think you'd appreciate it from the way you speak of things. The english speaking troops in the film are scots I believe. namaste
the christmas eve truce is quite famous in history. it's a good film |
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Yep, in the first World war that happened, where the troops would have a ceasefire, meet in no-mans land and play football, etc? Sweetest, i'm going up to my mums later. I'll ask her for that Dvd when I go up there! Cheers for that?
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Yep, in the first World war that happened, where the troops would have a ceasefire, meet in no-mans land and play football, etc? Sweetest, i'm going up to my mums later. I'll ask her for that Dvd when I go up there! Cheers for that? cheers always larsson! of course 
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Oh and I forgot to mention, Odumbo and company will be providing the entertainment. Traitors to be hung at high noon on the white house lawn to remain in state until sundown as a warning to others. But then with human nature the way it is, it will only last for a generation if that and the sheeple will return. The immortal words of the Thomas Jefferson.... "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson This thread is about the current actions of the Iranian Navy, any yet you veered off course into a tangent about the current POTUS. Go figure. 
Thank you Dodo for bringing us back to reality. 
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Wait a minute? America, won WW2? Aye with help from us Brits? We fought the Nazis for nearly 6 years without getting invaded and took the best their Air Force, etc, could throw at us, before your mob threw their hat in the ring? Iran, are calling your bluff, as they know with your gung-ho nature what the reaction will probably be? The World is watching, as it's your move? The Iranians have nothing to lose. That's why they're there. Understand that? Must be one of those new Common Core history books you have been reading. First, your timeline is totally screwed, the war only lasted 6 years, 1939 to 1945. These united States timeline for entering the war, 1941: December 7 - The Japanese launch a sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii December 11 - Germany and Italy declare war on the United States; then the United States declares war on Germany and Italy. The people of these united States were against the war in Europe in 1939. At that time we weren't the world's police state. But FDR and the military industrial complex just couldn't miss out on all those profits. First we started by supplying Europe and Russia but that just wasn't enough. So they came up with this great scheme, strangle Japan so they wouldn't have an option, wow the same ploy Odumbo tried to pull on Syria. And oh, by the way if our greedy military industrial complex didn't get involved Hitler would of been dining on roast beef and yorkshire pudding in 1942. Luck of the draw that egomaniac Hitler decided he could simultaneously kick Russian butt in the middle of winter. Oh, and I loved it when... British Prime Minister David Cameron loses parliamentary vote on Syrian military strike maybe if you read it again,you'd see that the Italian Adventure in Greece delayed Adolph! 
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My idea would be, when they entered US waters, send a drone.
Fly it low enough they would see it. If they made any type of offensive action, send a bombing run and sink their row boat. |
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Wait a minute? America, won WW2? Aye with help from us Brits? And I lived in England long ago before you were even born... A war bride from the Falklands? Are you playing with a full deck up top? I'm 42, the Falklands war was in 1982! So how do you work that one out? Another thing, I ain't no youth from England, that's on the dole. I'm self-employed and pay my way. I've always worked also. So get off your high Horse and realise one thing, I don't give two f**ks about David Cameron, or the Queen! I'm a Scotsman, to the core. We don't follow the rules of your Stereotypical Brit! That's one of the things I find amusing about the Scots, so willing to engage the mouth long before the brain kicks in. And then with that temperament, what a mix. Oh, and the war bride... 
And the British youth has always been amazing... Youth Training Scheme If you mean by High Horse you posting using your emotions and I countering with facts being on a High Horse, I'm guilty. |
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Wait a minute? America, won WW2? Aye with help from us Brits? We fought the Nazis for nearly 6 years without getting invaded and took the best their Air Force, etc, could throw at us, before your mob threw their hat in the ring? Iran, are calling your bluff, as they know with your gung-ho nature what the reaction will probably be? The World is watching, as it's your move? The Iranians have nothing to lose. That's why they're there. Understand that? Must be one of those new Common Core history books you have been reading. First, your timeline is totally screwed, the war only lasted 6 years, 1939 to 1945. These united States timeline for entering the war, 1941: December 7 - The Japanese launch a sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii December 11 - Germany and Italy declare war on the United States; then the United States declares war on Germany and Italy. The people of these united States were against the war in Europe in 1939. At that time we weren't the world's police state. But FDR and the military industrial complex just couldn't miss out on all those profits. First we started by supplying Europe and Russia but that just wasn't enough. So they came up with this great scheme, strangle Japan so they wouldn't have an option, wow the same ploy Odumbo tried to pull on Syria. And oh, by the way if our greedy military industrial complex didn't get involved Hitler would of been dining on roast beef and yorkshire pudding in 1942. Luck of the draw that egomaniac Hitler decided he could simultaneously kick Russian butt in the middle of winter. Oh, and I loved it when... British Prime Minister David Cameron loses parliamentary vote on Syrian military strike maybe if you read it again,you'd see that the Italian Adventure in Greece delayed Adolph!
Excuse me and how did you come up with that. Hitler attacked Greece in March of 1941 to prevent the Brits from having a Mediterranean base..."The British Empire forces then performed a tactical retreat with an ultimate goal of evacuation. The German army reached the city of Athens on 27 April and Greece's southern shore on April 30, capturing 7,000 British Empire forces." That really slowed Hitler down, didn't it? Or perhaps you are referring to this little escapade... "Looking back near the end of the war, as Germany's inevitable and impending defeat loomed ever closer, Hitler attributed great blame to Mussolini's Greek fiasco as the cause of his own subsequent catastrophe. As an explanation of Germany's calamitous defeat in the Soviet Union, this had little to commend it. It nevertheless had serious consequences for the Axis war effort in north Africa." Wow, Hitler and Odumbo are so much alike, someone's always at fault. |
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Now I know you're clutching at straws? If your history is so sharp, then you would know that the RAF fought the best that Hitler could throw at them with the Luftwaffe, in the skies above Britain. Did he gain control of the skies above Britain? Did he f**k! The battle of Britain, was in 1940, long before the Americans came into the war. You seem to think that you're intelligent? but you act like a complete idiot. Whats that crap about YTS schemes? Quite a lot of my mates got a trade through that scheme. So it wasn't a bad idea. We have free health care for all over here. Why couldn't your 'Amazing' country provide that for it's citizens? We had the NHS in place in 1948. Plenty of time for the US to do the same? Your government are only interested in making the rich richer and screw the rest! Look at the amount of US citizens that are unemployed and on food stamps? Unbelievable, in this day and age, in a developed country! People in glass houses springs to mind with your ill-thought statements! The sheep one as well? What a load of shite! You said that in a pub over here and you wouldn't last two minutes and that's the truth!
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Please get back on topic...Iranian warships.
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Please get back on topic...Iranian warships. Kim I say, let them come on. We can take their entire navy out in less than 24 hrs. Sweet. 
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Please get back on topic...Iranian warships. Kim I say, let them come on. We can take their entire navy out in less than 24 hrs. Sweet.
Or, we could escort them to port, make their sailors walk home. Then scrap the ships for manufacturing jobs here. |
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