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Donations to Karl Rove's Groups Drop 98% after Targeting Tea Party Couldn't happen to a more corrupt, warmonging, neo-con group who support the likes of Bush, Romney and the dough boy Christie. People are beginning to see there is little benefit or change offered by either these warmonger old guard repulsicon groups or the Welfare mongering liberals now running things. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/01/Donations-to-Karl-Rove-s-Groups-Decline-98-After-Declaring-War-on-Tea-Party |
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Donations to Karl Rove's Groups Drop 98% after Targeting Tea Party Couldn't happen to a more corrupt, warmonging, neo-con group who support the likes of Bush, Romney and the dough boy Christie. People are beginning to see there is little benefit or change offered by either these warmonger old guard repulsicon groups or the Welfare mongering liberals now running things. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/01/Donations-to-Karl-Rove-s-Groups-Decline-98-After-Declaring-War-on-Tea-Party You know I got respect for you but this is where we disagree.. I have met Karl Rove on several occasions, I talked to him during campaign season when I managed the former Governors campaign office and I have a lot of respect for him. The point he is trying to make is the Tea Party is splitting the Republican vote and in a lot of states getting extremist candidates on the ballot, perfect example here in Nevada they got Sharron Angle on the ballot against Harry Reid. She is the ONLY candidate who couldn't beat him. They have done it in other states as well. They are splitting the votes and getting Democrats elected or re-elected. The Republican Party isn't perfect, but we need to unite if we want to overcome the evil of Obama and a potential of a Hillary run in 2016. The Clintons wrote the book on negative campaigning and the Republicans will need people like Karl Rove to counter that. The Republican Party, my party also needs to adapt with the times. They need to change their stance on gay marriage. There was a poll taken and that over 75% of LGBT people are Conservative but wont vote Republican because the Republicans wont support them. This issue I don't understand, why is this even an issue. Doesn't everyone deserve to be happy? LGBT is a huge voter base. Also they need to put the abortion issue on the back burner and let the courts decide. They also need to look at Colorado and see the potential for tax revenue for legalizing Marijuana (everyone here knows I'm a strong opponent of it because it's a gateway drug), not to mention the votes and voters they would pick up if they did these simple things. |
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Sojourning_Soul
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Tue 02/04/14 07:16 AM
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Donations to Karl Rove's Groups Drop 98% after Targeting Tea Party Couldn't happen to a more corrupt, warmonging, neo-con group who support the likes of Bush, Romney and the dough boy Christie. People are beginning to see there is little benefit or change offered by either these warmonger old guard repulsicon groups or the Welfare mongering liberals now running things. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/01/Donations-to-Karl-Rove-s-Groups-Decline-98-After-Declaring-War-on-Tea-Party You know I got respect for you but this is where we disagree.. I have met Karl Rove on several occasions, I talked to him during campaign season when I managed the former Governors campaign office and I have a lot of respect for him. The point he is trying to make is the Tea Party is splitting the Republican vote and in a lot of states getting extremist candidates on the ballot, perfect example here in Nevada they got Sharron Angle on the ballot against Harry Reid. She is the ONLY candidate who couldn't beat him. They have done it in other states as well. They are splitting the votes and getting Democrats elected or re-elected. The Republican Party isn't perfect, but we need to unite if we want to overcome the evil of Obama and a potential of a Hillary run in 2016. The Clintons wrote the book on negative campaigning and the Republicans will need people like Karl Rove to counter that. The Republican Party, my party also needs to adapt with the times. They need to change their stance on gay marriage. There was a poll taken and that over 75% of LGBT people are Conservative but wont vote Republican because the Republicans wont support them. This issue I don't understand, why is this even an issue. Doesn't everyone deserve to be happy? LGBT is a huge voter base. Also they need to put the abortion issue on the back burner and let the courts decide. They also need to look at Colorado and see the potential for tax revenue for legalizing Marijuana (everyone here knows I'm a strong opponent of it because it's a gateway drug), not to mention the votes and voters they would pick up if they did these simple things. Rove has a history. People liked Ted Bundy too until the truth was known. The agenda that Rove and associates endorse is not the "old" ways, the "Reaganomics" they espouse, but their way. We have argued that party line many times in our past, shared harsh words to each other, but we have risen above that to achieve an understanding, a tolerance, a respect, that allows us to disagree but meet in the middle and work together. I will graciously admit it was you who reached across the aisle with your hand of friendship. A noble and admirable act of character. I admired and welcomed that move, and it has brought us to this place where tho we may yet disagree on many things, we can reach common ground, work together for better or common cause. Roves style of politics is hurtful to your party. Intolerance, division, they help no one as you stated. Two people can look at a picture and see two different realities. That is the beauty and wonder of being human individuals, but intolerance destroys the ability to create the broader view of two varying opinions, expanding the perception. Creating division, forcing choice...... much in the way Obozo says "my way or the highway",..... imagine our earlier conversations..... what did we accomplish by them? I was a Paul supporter, you were a "party" supporter. That in itself was not the problem. Each of the candidates had an opinion we could not fully or willingly agree with. Each painted a picture that did not fit a reality in our landscape one way or the other. Money, media, prejudice, religion, hatred, intolerance, age, character, views, politics, nobody can agree on everything every time, but even you must admit, there was manipulation to silence or alienate a portion of voices/voters within the party. Our present POTUS, whom we both agree was the worse possible choice for America, a liar, deceiver, played that division like a fiddle in the media..... and won. Rove and company's intolerance to a new or different view for the party, maybe not a perfect one, but a different one voters are seeking, and manipulating the vote by throwing money and power against members of his own party, THAT creates division! By trying to promote an agenda and candidate people can't quite swallow..... well, we know the results. That's what the OP is about. Smart money doesn't bet a losing horse. |
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I do agree Rove has broken Reagan's cardinal rule, Republicans should never attack other Republicans on the campaign trail because it give the Dems more ammo during the election, BUT I think Rove will be a valuable asset in the general election because he will ultimately back whoever is nominated ad that will be needed against the Clintons, the people who took negative campaigning to a new level.
I do agree the old time Republicans need to go, McCain(Who I admired for many years until the last couple years), Graham, McConnell, Speaker Boner etc. We need more elected officials like Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Mike Lee, Mark Amodei in office. The only reason I can support Paul is his pacifist stance. Reagan and Bush Senior proved Military Might kept countries in line and kept us from getting majorly F'ed with like we are now. We were respected by the majority of nations, and when they had a problem they always came to us for our input. They kept Islamic Militancy contained for the most part because when a terrorist would attack we would respond swiftly and brutally (just what President George W. Bush did after 9/11 and we weren't really messed with after and when we were it was handled). Carter, Clinton and Obama have all proven the pacifist approach does not work at all and just makes our enemies stronger. Under Carter Iran became a rogue Islamic terrorist nation, Clintons watch Al Qaeda became a global threat (both situations could have been cut off at the head from the very beginning) and well we have seen what's happened under Obama. AQ had taken over key parks of Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt, Mali, Pakistan etc while Obama just sit back and watched and alienated some of our biggest allies. They grew from an estimated 400-500 fighters when President Bush left office to over 20,000 today. |
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