Women don't seek out the liars! Trust me ... we want the truthful guys.

However, if you are saying women look at a pic of a handsome guy, that says he's making $100K a year.. yeah some will fall for that. Not because of gulliablity, but because we have no reason to believe the guy is lying.

The honest guy who says, he's unemployed, lives with his mom, but has a really big heart... Again, We believe him, but Why would I need him in my life if I have my own place and have a job? What can he offer me?

I'm guessing some woman decieved you, OP. And you just want to blame women? What exactly was your experience of it? It happens to men, too. Let's not forget that. No such thing as the "fairer" sex.

Again, here we go with the value on Love"$" not the value it is supposed to have "from the Heart"! What is expected other than Love on here or does the $ make up for Love expected??

I'm all for love, but I have three kids I'm supporting, I don't need a man to support too. He has to be able to offer something. Doesn't mean he has to be rich, but I want a partner, not another dependent. And as for OP, lies are a major no turning back deal breaker for me. Blatant lies are easy to catch, but sometimes it's harder to see the truth, especially when you really care for someone.

yeah, that can be a good idea in cases,some people
are just perpetual liars and some are constantly getting the facts wrong.
its was like yesterday I was posting the weather
and someone had mentioned it was -50c -60c with wind factor in Saskatchewan CA. So I was going to
post it with my post so I said "were did you here that" he said "it was on the radio" so I asked him
"did you here it"? "yes! It was on the moose"
then I googled it and it was about the same
wheather as here so I suggest that perhaps they
were talking about an Alltime record for THIS
day in recorded history.
Then he retorted with No the coldest day was bla bla bla?

f_ _ _en Waterhead

I'm so of tired of liars.... Im just gonna be alone screw it...

When the serpent went to corrupt Adam he knew he had to do it through Eve first. And when she brought the apple to Adam she did not warn him, she simply said - "Here, eat this apple." How was Adam to know it was the forbidden fruit? There must have been loads of different apple trees in that garden. So what does that tell you about women?

Mmmmm....i love apples! Red delicious misty apples!!!

through Eve first. apple." How was Adam to know it was the forbidden fruit? There must have been loads of different apple trees in that garden. So what does that tell you about women?


It tells of the origins of why women ask questions before falling for a handsome face and sexy naked body!

Do you really think that we women adore men who lie to us knowingly? Get a brain..yes I am offended.

LOL believe it or not..some men DO make 100K or more a year. Are you implying that dating sites are exclusive to poor men? You are kinda void up there in the noggin' aren'tcha?

@cuddlebunny. I realize this Hon..my point was some guys tell us this... why wouldn't. We believe it? . as you pointed out. It is possible.
Hence my point... its not gullibility ... its possibility.

oops sorry, I was referring to what the OP wrote

I started my own Roofing company, 2 years ago, as i'd been in the game for over 20 years and was sick of working for other people and getting no thanks! Now I employ 4 of my mates and im paying out over a �100k a year in wages alone. I never forget where I come from though. Took a lot of hard work and sacrifices along the way, but whatever happens, it's all for my son and my grandkid, one day! Thats what drives me, not the money. Just want my son and grandkid to have the things that I never had, thats all !

Wow I love these debates, all i have to say is im not a liar..... Should have been tho, I. Have had women turn me down for the dumbest ****.,..... Ya I lost two houses bcuz of the child support I have to pay, I work two jobs, lost my car( shouldn't of been street racing he he) when I let women know these things they differently of me, I try very hard to make it in this life.... I'm college educated... I have a great personality, I have plenty of friends, but no woman bcuz of my past... I'm not judgmental but i perceive the opposite sex to be judgmental. Am I wrong for thinking this way, and should I continue to be honest with any woman..... Yes I am an honest person and I will let a woman know everything about me.

@polishboy. Are you telling chicks this before they know your name?

Some things you can hold off on until you see where the relationship goes…

all right cuddlebunny ..you aren't getting off that easy...you quoted the "100k" that teebee used
in a CLEAR GOOD example,The OP didn't say that.
You are either 'careless with the truth'and
you can't own what you now see as a mistake or your confused.
So if it was confused you were, then retract your
oooops and tell us again why you think she has
sh_t for brains.?

No not one bit i promise, i would do it at a suitable time... If I did what u said I might as well jump off a bridge lol no offense one bit, just making a joke. Usually after a Lil while I would ease into it with something that pertains to the point I'm going to truly make towards the end of the whole conversation. I dont care to speak of it on here just for the simple fact i dont know all of u all in here.... But to me a stranger may have good advice ;)

ponyboy your looking to start something here thats uncalled for. I seriously was quoting a quote on top of a "quote"