Topic: Change what is?
Amoscarine's photo
Tue 11/26/13 11:31 AM
What is the shift that is so commonly observed. I don't get all that the phrase "to change" means. I see that man changes all the time, in the since that his actual state is different than it was sometime in the past, or will be in the future. But what is the same is that there is a continuation of trait, of direction, maybe not in life as far as being stuck on a path, but a�paths are made, or we make them. Either way, It stands taht there is an intial condation of the human beaing that progresses and morphs thorugh out life or time. The term of the present is so central to the notion of change. CHange from what? from how things are now. But where is that moment in most ideas of change? they don't care for the passage of time, events and experiences taht has some feeling. There is no soul in the notion we've made of this concept. So where is the life, where is that indespencable iterance of a time and a place, not of tomorrow, or next month, or years down the line, I mean this very instant. We don't know, Or I don't, at least, what the present really is. Why it is different from the past, and that memories can have significance to a being. Before change can be talked about, first there must be definition of what is.

Lost_in_reverie's photo
Wed 11/27/13 03:06 AM
Edited by Lost_in_reverie on Wed 11/27/13 03:08 AM

Before change can be talked about, first there must be definition of what is.


I don't think we necessarily have to know what something is for it to exist. The world continued to spin on its axis whilst orbiting the sun, even when we were still debating our belief that the earth was flat, or killing people when we thought the universe revolved around the earth...

We can still choose to change without fully understanding who we are or what we stand for, we can just pick out pieces that don't match with some view of ourselves or something we believe we could do better.

Boaz8's photo
Fri 11/29/13 08:12 AM
How about this?
If I could do anything I wanted to do?
What would it be? Or I be like?

To BE in the present
is to strive n to struggle
to become the answer
to those questions.

Therefore what is my goal (s) in life.

Having said that. I am 50 yrs old and have yet to get close to mine. The closest one I've gotten to? Is my own character. All the other goals? Well? They / I just haven't been able to accomplish em.

I hope you can do better!

Amoscarine's photo
Fri 11/29/13 02:04 PM
Lost, I agree. In the simplest sense, I meant only that the time that is commanded right now that is different from Before, and from what a person will be, is lacking in the common mentality. Of cou�rse change can happen for a person without full understanding. I doubt I get myself entirely, or even will. I just tried to convey that that moment in flux isn't thought of frequently, but is important to anyone reflective.

The World need not be observed or known by humans to exist or function. That is a type of World view chavanism, in my book at least. Thank you for these Words that ring true to me!

Dear Boa, the people that are celebrated, and deservedly, for making contributions that better our World are persons of sound character. I don't see what it matters if the difference made is large or small. And I Think it is any generations responsibility to strive for doing even just a tiny bit better than their parents or the generation before them.

kind thoughts and nice verse