Topic: Biometric weapons
mightymoe's photo
Fri 11/22/13 09:35 AM




They've been workin on crap like this since the early 90's.

since Judge Dredd?

mightymoe's photo
Fri 11/22/13 09:36 AM



I think the technology is meant to considerably reduce the chances of theft and traffic of weapons. You know, the types who still think their gloves box in the car as secure?laugh

You guys are worried about your government? Scaryscared


What it's meant to do, and what it does are two different things. Grandmother always said "the road to hell was paved with good intentions".

As Conrad stated, these are easily by-passable. They are also very expensive. And, for those that use these firearms (police, or maybe military included) your dependability goes down as previously stated. (Dirt, grease, etc. can interrupt fingerprint scan for instance).

So to sum it up;

gun traffickers = uneffected

cops/military/civilians = increase spending and decrease effectiveness

Interesting article, terrible idea



Interesting, this is all I hear from people who don't have answers to a very specific and problematic issue. Your guns are falling in the wrong hands because again, some are too stupid to realize that glove boxes are not a safe place to keep weapons.

Again, Your weapons are falling in the wrong hands... no better suggestions?


i've never lost a gun...?

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Fri 11/22/13 09:57 AM




I think the technology is meant to considerably reduce the chances of theft and traffic of weapons. You know, the types who still think their gloves box in the car as secure?laugh

You guys are worried about your government? Scaryscared


What it's meant to do, and what it does are two different things. Grandmother always said "the road to hell was paved with good intentions".

As Conrad stated, these are easily by-passable. They are also very expensive. And, for those that use these firearms (police, or maybe military included) your dependability goes down as previously stated. (Dirt, grease, etc. can interrupt fingerprint scan for instance).

So to sum it up;

gun traffickers = uneffected

cops/military/civilians = increase spending and decrease effectiveness

Interesting article, terrible idea



Interesting, this is all I hear from people who don't have answers to a very specific and problematic issue. Your guns are falling in the wrong hands because again, some are too stupid to realize that glove boxes are not a safe place to keep weapons.

Again, Your weapons are falling in the wrong hands... no better suggestions?


i've never lost a gun...?


Hahaha Good one Moe! laugh indifferent

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2013/07/want_to_lose_your_gun_come_to.php

It's pretty darn well known around here that most Texans love their guns. If you're from Texas, it's a fair bet that you can boast at least one relative who basically owns an arsenal that would be enough firepower to defend a small country, if the need arose.
Earlier this year, a University of Texas/Texas Tribune poll was conducted and of the 1,200 people surveyed, nearly half said they were gun owners, which is a lot of people packing heat. On top of that, of those who said they own a gun, 44 percent of them said they owned two to five guns, which all translates, unsurprisingly, to a hell of a lot of guns in the Lone Star State.

There's a flip side to everything, though, and while we have a ton of guns in Texas, it turns out this is the place to be if you want to get your gun lost or stolen. There were more guns lost or stolen in Texas last year than in any other state in the country, according to a study recently released by the U.S. Justice Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The study found that more guns were reported lost or stolen in Texas than in any other state in the country, to the tune of 18,874, or about 10 percent of the guns reported lost or stolen for the entire country.

Back in January, President Obama issued a directive ordering the study in the midst of his push for gun control, before the legislative effort met its death in the U.S. Congress earlier this year. Why does the government care about these lost or stolen guns? The report addresses that right off:

"Lost and stolen firearms pose a substantial threat to public safety and to law enforcement," the report states. "Those that steal firearms commit violent crimes with stolen guns, transfer stolen firearms to others who commit crimes, and create an unregulated secondary market for firearms, including a market for those who are prohibited by law from possessing a gun."

Because law enforcement officials aren't required to report lost or stolen firearms that are reported to them, and because private citizens aren't required to report when a firearm is stolen or lost in the first place, it is acknowledged in the report that getting truly accurate numbers is pretty difficult. However, there's better luck with those who are Federal Firearms Licensees, because Congress enacted a law requiring them to report a lost or stolen gun within 48 hours of discovering the gun is missing, according to the report.

Bureau officials relied on data from the National Crime Information Center to put together the study, and it's noted in the report that this isn't even taking into account the firearms that are lost or stolen and go unreported. So there are definitely more guns out there wandering footloose, fancy-free and unregistered than the report can account for.
And the odds are good that a significant portion of those guns are in Texas.



Conrad_73's photo
Fri 11/22/13 09:58 AM



I think the technology is meant to considerably reduce the chances of theft and traffic of weapons. You know, the types who still think their gloves box in the car as secure?laugh

You guys are worried about your government? Scaryscared


What it's meant to do, and what it does are two different things. Grandmother always said "the road to hell was paved with good intentions".

As Conrad stated, these are easily by-passable. They are also very expensive. And, for those that use these firearms (police, or maybe military included) your dependability goes down as previously stated. (Dirt, grease, etc. can interrupt fingerprint scan for instance).

So to sum it up;

gun traffickers = uneffected

cops/military/civilians = increase spending and decrease effectiveness

Interesting article, terrible idea



Interesting, this is all I hear from people who don't have answers to a very specific and problematic issue. Your guns are falling in the wrong hands because again, some are too stupid to realize that glove boxes are not a safe place to keep weapons.

Again, Your weapons are falling in the wrong hands... no better suggestions?


..................and what makes them safer once they fall into the wrong Hands(Theft)?
Are you telling me they can't be modified in a Jiffy,something like a Firearm with a jokey Triggerlock?slaphead

It's just another Feel-good Selfdeception of the anti-Gunners!
You can bypass or remove those safeties in no time at all,and then you are left with a functional Firearm!

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Fri 11/22/13 10:45 AM
Edited by JOHNN111 on Fri 11/22/13 10:50 AM
American Journal of medicine Oct 2013

http://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(13)00444-0/fulltext


I wonder what percentage of the nations mentally ill come right out of Texas? I'm thinking a pretty darn high % judging by these threads drinker



Abstract
Background
A variety of claims about possible associations between gun ownership rates, mental illness burden, and the risk of firearm-related deaths have been put forward. However, systematic data on this issue among various countries remain scant. Our objective was to assess whether the popular notion “guns make a nation safer” has any merits.

Methods
Data on gun ownership were obtained from the Small Arms Survey, and for firearm-related deaths from a European detailed mortality database (World Health Organization), the National Center for Health Statistics, and others. Crime rate was used as an indicator of safety of the nation and was obtained from the United Nations Surveys of Crime Trends. Age-standardized disability-adjusted life-year rates due to major depressive disorder per 100,000 inhabitants with data obtained from the World Health Organization database were used as a putative indicator for mental illness burden in a given country.

Results
Among the 27 developed countries, there was a significant positive correlation between guns per capita per country and the rate of firearm-related deaths (r = 0.80; P <.0001). In addition, there was a positive correlation (r = 0.52; P = .005) between mental illness burden in a country and firearm-related deaths. However, there was no significant correlation (P = .10) between guns per capita per country and crime rate (r = .33), or between mental illness and crime rate (r = 0.32; P = .11). In a linear regression model with firearm-related deaths as the dependent variable with gun ownership and mental illness as independent covariates, gun ownership was a significant predictor (P <.0001) of firearm-related deaths, whereas mental illness was of borderline significance (P = .05) only.

Conclusion
The number of guns per capita per country was a strong and independent predictor of firearm-related death in a given country, whereas the predictive power of the mental illness burden was of borderline significance in a multivariable model. Regardless of exact cause and effect, however, the current study debunks the widely quoted hypothesis that guns make a nation safer.

Keywords: Firearm deaths, Gun ownership, Mental illness


For more than 200 years, ever since the second amendment stating “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” was passed in 1791, there has been a debate over guns in the US. On one end is the contention that there is no evidence suggesting that banning assault weapons would reduce crime, and gun control laws are an infringement on the right of self-defense and on constitutional rights. In addition, the notion that “guns make the nation safer” has become exceedingly popular.1 Others have suggested that violence is often due to the perpetrator's mental illness and therefore, lack of treatment for mental illness may be more of a pressing problem than mere availability of guns.2 This thought implies that mental illness and not merely the access to guns is the driving force for criminal activities. There is little question that the combination of mental illness and easy access to guns may prove to be synergistic in their lethality, as was seen in the shootings in Aurora, Tucson, at Virginia Tech, in Oak Creek, and other places in recent years. On the opposite end stands the contention that fewer firearms would reduce crime rates and overall lead to greater safety. Yet many of these arguments from both sides are based on little or no evidence. We sought to evaluate the relationship between prevalence of gun ownership and mental illness on firearm-related death in a given country.

Clinical Significance
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Methods
Definition and Data Sources
All data were restricted to the 27 developed countries listed, not currently in civil war and with data available on gun ownership, as outlined in the Table. Data on gun ownership per capita per country were obtained from the Small Arms Survey 2007.3 Data on firearm-related deaths per 100,000 population per country were obtained from a European detailed mortality database (World Health Organization)4 based on the following International Classification of Diseases-10th Revision codes: unintentional handgun discharge (W32); unintentional rifle, shotgun, and larger firearm discharge (W33); unintentional discharge from other and unspecified firearms (W34); intentional self-harm by handgun discharge (X72); intentional self-harm by rifle, shotgun, and larger firearm discharge (X73); intentional self-harm by other and unspecified firearm discharge (X74); assault by handgun discharge (X93); assault by rifle, shotgun, and larger firearm discharge (X94); assault by other and unspecified firearm discharge (X95); handgun discharge, undetermined intent (Y22); rifle, shotgun, and larger firearm discharge, undetermined intent (Y23); other and unspecified firearm discharge, undetermined intent (Y24); and from other sources.5, 6 Crime rate was used as a putative indicator of safety of a nation and was obtained from the United Nations Surveys of Crime Trends.7 Crime rate was defined as the grand total of all recorded crimes as described in the survey. Age-standardized disability-adjusted life-year rates due to major depressive disorder per 100,000 inhabitants with data obtained from the World Health Organization database was used as a putative indicator for mental illness burden in a country.8

Table. Gun Ownership, Mental Illness Burden, and Firearm-related Deaths and Crime Rate
Country Guns per 100∗ Total Firearm-related Deaths per 100,000† Crime Rates per 100,000‡ Mental Illness per 100,000§
Australia 15.0 1.04 NA 846.94
Austria 30.4 2.94 7102.35 1108.30
Belgium 17.2 2.43 9271.89 1244.46
Canada 30.8 2.44 8311.34 1157.07
Denmark 12.0 1.45 6850.83 1110.76
Finland 45.3 3.64 9753.58 1344.13
France 31.2 3.00 6250.72 1234.32
Germany 30.3 1.10 7650.76 955.01
Greece 22.5 1.50 2171.44 632.05
Iceland 30.3 1.25 17,154.67 955.99
Ireland 8.6 1.03 2456.60 959.33
Israel 7.3 1.86 7174.07 1273.92
Italy 11.9 1.28 4697.44 776.38
Japan 0.6 0.06 1604.73 531.25
Luxembourg 15.3 1.81 5209.20 1110.00
Malta 11.9 2.16 4645.00 763.79
Netherlands 3.9 0.46 7429.55 861.59
New Zealand 22.6 2.66 10,344.73 851.07
Norway 31.3 1.78 5893.96 996.78
Portugal 8.5 1.77 3778.21 721.80
South Africa 12.7 9.41 5674.10 725.77
Spain 10.4 0.63 2312.40 620.77
Sweden 31.6 1.47 13,461.08 1060.42
Switzerland 45.7 3.84 3842.08 1114.11
Turkey 12.5 0.72 1339.84 1037.51
United States 88.8 10.2 3811.87 1454.74
United Kingdom 6.2 0.25 8972.35 960.62
∗Average civilian firearms per 100 people; data from The Small Arms Survey 2007: Guns and the City.3

†Firearm-related deaths per 100,000 population; data from a European detailed mortality database based on International Classification of Diseases codes (ICD-10): W32-W34,X72-X74,X93-X95,Y22-Y24 and others.4

‡Crime rate data were obtained from the United Nations Surveys of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems.7

§Mental illness defined as age-standardized http://data.euro.who.int/dmdb/ rates due to major depressive disorder per 100,000 inhabitants with data obtained from the World Health Organization.8

Statistical Analysis
All variables were tested for normality, and non-normal distributed variables were log-transformed. Box plots were used to identify outliers. Pearson's correlation coefficient was used to assess the correlation between the above measures. In addition, a linear regression model was used to evaluate the predictors of firearm-related deaths with gun ownership and mental illness as the independent covariates. P <.05 was used to denote statistical significance.

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Results
Gun Ownership and Firearm-related Deaths
In having almost as many guns as it has people, prevalence of private gun ownership was the highest in the US among both developed and developing countries. Japan, on the other end, had an extremely low gun ownership rate (Table). Similarly, South Africa (9.4 per 100,000) and the US (10.2 per 100,000) had extremely high firearm-related deaths, whereas the United Kingdom (0.25 per 100,000) had an extremely low rate of firearm-related deaths. There was a significant positive correlation between guns per capita per country and the rate of firearm-related deaths (r = 0.80; P <.0001) (Figure, A), with Japan being on one end of the spectrum and the US being on the other. In this correlation, South Africa was the only outlier in that the observed firearms-related death rate was several times higher than expected from gun ownership.

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(A) Guns per capita per country and firearm-related deaths. (B) Guns per capita per country and crime rates. (C) Mental illness per country and firearm-related deaths. (D) Mental illness per country and crime rates.

Do Guns Make a Nation Safer?
We then sought to evaluate whether possessing guns would make a nation safer, as has been a widespread contention. We used the crime rate per 100,000 population as an indicator of safety of the nation. There was no significant correlation (r = 0.33) between guns per capita per country and crime rate (P = .10), arguing against the notion of more guns translating into less crime (Figure, B).

Mental Illness and Firearm-related Deaths
We sought to assess whether the mental illness burden of a country correlated with the firearm-related deaths. Given the difficulty in a uniform quantification of mental illness, we used the age-standardized rates due to major depressive disorder per 100,000 inhabitants in a country as an indicator. There was a positive correlation (r = 0.52; P = .005) between mental illness burden in a country and firearm-related deaths (Figure, C).

Mental Illness and Crime Rate
Finally, we assessed whether there was a correlation between mental illness burden of a country and the crime rate in a country. There was a no significant correlation (r = 0.32) between mental illness and crime rate (P = .11) (Figure, D).

Multivariable Predictors
In a linear regression model with firearm-related deaths as the dependent variable, and gun ownership and mental illness as independent covariates, gun ownership was a significant predictor (P ≤.0001) and mental illness was of borderline significance (P = .05) for the prediction of firearm-related deaths. There was no evidence of multicollinearity in the model.

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Conclusion
The present data suggest that the number of guns per capita per country correlated strongly and was an independent predictor of firearm-related deaths. Additionally, in a linear regression model there was a correlation with mental illness, but this was of borderline significance in a multivariable model. Although correlation is not synonymous with causation, it seems conceivable that abundant gun availability facilitates firearm-related deaths. Conversely, high crime rates may instigate widespread anxiety and fear, thereby motivating people to arm themselves and give rise to increased gun ownership, which, in turn, increases availability. The resulting vicious cycle could, bit-by-bit, lead to the polarized status that is now the case with the US. Regardless of exact cause and effect, however, the current study debunks the widely quoted hypothesis purporting to show that countries with the higher gun ownership are safer than those with low gun ownership.

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Fri 11/22/13 11:56 AM



I think the technology is meant to considerably reduce the chances of theft and traffic of weapons. You know, the types who still think their gloves box in the car as secure?laugh

You guys are worried about your government? Scaryscared


What it's meant to do, and what it does are two different things. Grandmother always said "the road to hell was paved with good intentions".

As Conrad stated, these are easily by-passable. They are also very expensive. And, for those that use these firearms (police, or maybe military included) your dependability goes down as previously stated. (Dirt, grease, etc. can interrupt fingerprint scan for instance).

So to sum it up;

gun traffickers = uneffected

cops/military/civilians = increase spending and decrease effectiveness

Interesting article, terrible idea



Interesting, this is all I hear from people who don't have answers to a very specific and problematic issue. Your guns are falling in the wrong hands because again, some are too stupid to realize that glove boxes are not a safe place to keep weapons.

Again, Your weapons are falling in the wrong hands... no better suggestions?


As someone who as tested technology for our military, 90% of these inventions have no practical field use. No action is better than the wrong type of action. Throwing gasoline on a burning house would be an "action", right? Yet, it would do little to save the house, or put out the fire.

There is no simple or complete answer to the issue of guns falling in the wrong hands. Even if guns were all illegal and these devices were a requirement for all government issued weapons, it wouldn't make much of a difference.

FYI my weapons are either within arms length of my person, or under double lock and key. Not in a glove box.

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Sat 11/23/13 05:07 PM
Must be why canooker guns were confiscated.

A nation full of fruit cakes.

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Sat 11/23/13 05:15 PM
Edited by boredinaz06 on Sat 11/23/13 05:17 PM





They've been workin on crap like this since the early 90's.

since Judge Dredd?


I don't know who judge dredd is, but they have been fartin around with finger print identification and even a lock and key to turn the gun off for about 20 years.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/24/13 01:00 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 11/24/13 01:15 AM
some People still think you can pick up a Turd by it's clean end!laugh

The most reliable Firearms are those with the least Bells and Whistles!
Biometric Firearms are simply wishful thinking by a certain set of Politicians!
Back in the Sixties,OERLIKON/CONTRAVES started to adapt the M61 VULCAN to become a new AA-Gun,for Close-In Defense!
They managed to put so many Gadgets and Interlocks on the damn thing,that half the time it simply wouldn't fire!bigsmile

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Sun 11/24/13 04:50 AM
Edited by karmafury on Sun 11/24/13 04:55 AM


Battle honours are the right given by the Crown to the regiment to mark on its colours the name of the battles or operations in which they stood out.

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Royal 22nd Regiment

The War of 1812: Défense du Canada 1812–1815,[17] Châteauguay, Ferme Crysler[18]
The Great War: Mont-Sorrel*, Somme 1916 '18, Flers-Courcelette, Thiepval, Les Hauteurs d'Ancre*, Arras 1917 '18, Vimy 1917, Arleux, Scarpe 1917 '18, Côte 70*, Ypres 1917, Passchendaele, Amiens, Ligne Hindenburg*, Canal du Nord, Cambrai 1918, Poussée de Mons*, France et Flandres 1915–18*
The Second World War: Débarquement en Sicile*, Valguarnera, Adrano, Catenuova, Sicile 1943*, Débarquement à Reggio*, Potenza, Le Sangro*, Casa Berardi, Torre Mucchia, Cassino II, Ligne Gustav*, Vallée de la Liri*, Ligne Hitler*, Ligne Gothique*, Borgo Santa Maria, Passage du Lamone*, Ligne Rimini*, San Martino-San Lorenzo, San Fortunato, Cesena, Italie 1943–1945*, Apeldoorn, Nord-Ouest de l'Europe 1945*
Corée 1951–53* [19]

* Translated to French in 1958 from original English awards in 1957.

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48th Highlanders


SOUTH AFRICA, 1899–1900

First World War

YPRES, 1915, '17, Gravenstafel, St. Julien, FESTUBERT, 1915, MOUNT SORREL, SOMME, 1916, Pozières, Thiepval, Ancre Heights, Arras 1917,'18, VIMY 1917, Arleux, Scarpe 1917,'18, HILL 70, PASSCHENDAELE, AMIENS, DROCOURT-QUÉANT, Hindenburg Line, CANAL DU NORD, Pursuit to Mons, France and Flanders 1915–1918

Second World War

LANDING IN SICILY, Valguarnera, ASSORO, Agira, Adrano, Regalbuto, Sicily 1943, Landing at Reggio, CAMPOBASSO, Torella, San Leonardo, The Gully, ORTONA, San Nicola – San Tommaso, Cassino II, Gustav Line, LIRI VALLEY, HITLER LINE, GOTHIC LINE, LAMONE CROSSING, Misano Ridge, RIMINI LINE, San Martino – San Lorenzo, Fosso Vecchio, Italy 1943-1945, APELDOORN, North-West Europe 1945

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Fusielliers Mont Royal


Defence of Canada – 1812–1815[1]
North West Canada 1885
The Great War: [awarded battle honours of the 69th Battalion CEF and 150th Battalion CEF, with the following emblazoned:] Ypres 1915 '17, Festubert 1915, Somme 1916, Arras 1917 '18, Hill 70, Amiens, Pursuit to Mons
The Second World War: Dieppe, L'Escaut, Bourgebus Ridge, Saint-André-sur-Orne, Verrières Ridge—Tilly-la-Campagne, Falaise, Falaise Road, The Liaison, Forêt de la Londe, Dunkirk 1944, Antwerp-Turnhout Canal, The Scheldt, Woensdrecht, South Beveland, The Rhineland, The Hochwald, Xanten, The Rhine, Groningen, Oldenburg, North-West Europe 1942 '44-45

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PPCLI (Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry)

Ypres, 1915, '17, Frezenberg, Bellewaarde, Mount Sorrel, Somme, 1916 Flers-Courcelette, Ancre Heights, Arras 1917,'18, Vimy, 1917 Arleux,
Hill 70, Passchendaele, Amiens, Scarpe, 1918 Hindenburg Line, Canal du Nord, Pursuit to Mons, France and Flanders, 1914–18, Siberia, 1918–1919


World War 2
Landing in Sicily, Leonforte, Agira, Sicily, 1943, The Gully, Liri Valley, Hitler Line, Gothic Line, Rimini Line, San Fortunato, Savio Bridgehead, Naviglio Canal, Fosso Munio, Granarolo, Italy, 1943–1945, Apledoorn, North-West Europe, 1945


Korean War
Kapyong
Korea 1950–1953

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Canadian Joint Task Force 2 (JTF2): The contingent of Canada's special operations unit, JTF2, which served in Task Force K-Bar was awarded the Navy Presidential Unit Citation for their service in Afghanistan. The Canadian Department of National Defence announced the award on December 8, 2004.[35] After the necessary country to country diplomatic notes were exchanged to make and accept the award on June 2, 2006, the Department of National Defence announced that the U.S. Ambassador to Canada had presented the citation to the members of JTF2.

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Royal Canadian Regiment

The Great War

Ypres 1915, 1917,
Gravenstafel
St Julien
Festubert
Mount Sorrel
Somme 1916
Pozières
Flers-Courcelette
Ancre Heights
Arras 1917, 1918
Vimy 1917
Arleux
Scarpe 1917, 1918
Hill 70
Passchendaele
Amiens
Drocourt-Queant
Hindenburg Line
Canal du Nord
Cambrai 1918
Pursuit To Mons
France and Flanders 1915–1918

The Second World War

Landing In Sicily
Agira
Regalbuto
Landing at Reggio
Campabasso
San Leonardo
Ortona
Gustav Line
Hitler Line
Lamone Crossing
Valguarnera
Adrano
Sicily 1943
Motta Montecorvino
Torella
The Gully
Cassino II
Liri Valley
Gothic Line
Misano Ridge
Rimini Line
Pisciatello
Italy 1943–1945
North West Europe 1945
San Martino-San Lorenzo
Fosso Vecchio
Apeldoorn




Canadian Victoria Cross Recipients

[urlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_Victoria_Cross_recipients


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Congressional Medal of Honor


Sixty-one Canadians who were serving in the United States Armed Forces have been awarded the Medal of Honor, with a majority awarded for actions in the American Civil War. Since 1900, four have been awarded to Canadians.[5] In the Vietnam War, Peter C. Lemon was the only Canadian recipient of the Medal of Honor.


[urlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Medal_of_Honor_recipients


White flag???? Learn a little before coming out with stuff that shows how little you know.

Side note: The term Storm Trooper was started by the Germans during World War One regarding Canadian troops. Canadian troops were the ones they feared.

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Sun 11/24/13 06:31 AM
Sure, finger proof weapons would be fine for free men opting for that.

Gubament mandate? Naw, I'll pass.

I am sure there have been a few brave souls from Canada who bravely fought for your freedoms.

Too bad millions of Hosers caved when your Queen snatched your guns.

Hosers, afraid of a girl! laugh :wink: happy

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Sun 11/24/13 12:27 PM
Keep the debate civil!

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Sun 11/24/13 02:44 PM
Edited by JOHNN111 on Sun 11/24/13 02:45 PM
Side note: The term Storm Trooper was started by the Germans during World War One regarding Canadian troops. Canadian troops were the ones they feared.



Even today KF, go ask the Taliban in Afghanistan who they fear most but this is not the point... The point is, these southern gents here still think they're safer with their 7 pistols on their person. Then they get all bent out of shape when their children get gunned down.
Still, no solutions other than mix more weapons into the population? laugh drinker indifferent

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Sun 11/24/13 04:09 PM
Edited by willing2 on Sun 11/24/13 04:11 PM
The Hoser Queen will rule her subjects for years to come.

Our Queen is outa here soon.

PS
No one fears a midget Hoser. laugh

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Sun 11/24/13 09:50 PM



Look here, the French haven't been dominate militarily since Napoleon. I never said that the French never went into battle, in fact I am sure they have stood behind both the U.S and British troops on the field..mostly so they could hold up a white flag and be assured the first to run away.

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Mon 11/25/13 07:14 AM
Twiddle dee & tweeddle dumb ^^^^


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Mon 11/25/13 08:58 AM
Edited by willing2 on Mon 11/25/13 08:59 AM

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Mon 11/25/13 09:26 AM



Q: How do you confuse a French Soldier?
A: Give him a rifle and ask him to shoot it.

Q: What's the motto of the US Marine Corps?
A: Semper Fi (Always Faithful)
Q: What's the motto of the French Army?
A: Stop, drop, and run!

Q. Why don't Master Card and Visa work well in France? A. They do not know how to say "CHARGE!"

Q: What do women who are snipers in the French military use as camouflage?
A: Their armpits.

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Mon 11/25/13 09:26 AM

:smile:

willing2's photo
Mon 11/25/13 10:15 AM
Edited by willing2 on Mon 11/25/13 10:22 AM




Q: How do you confuse a French Soldier?
A: Give him a rifle and ask him to shoot it.

Q: What's the motto of the US Marine Corps?
A: Semper Fi (Always Faithful)
Q: What's the motto of the French Army?
A: Stop, drop, and run!

Q. Why don't Master Card and Visa work well in France? A. They do not know how to say "CHARGE!"

Q: What do women who are snipers in the French military use as camouflage?
A: Their armpits.

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My new main pic.