Topic: Is There Something We're Not Being Told?
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Fri 11/01/13 08:48 PM
Is ACA Socialism or Corporatism?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQtxcKT-u_Y

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Fri 11/01/13 10:18 PM


Either way.......


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Fri 11/01/13 10:26 PM
rofl rofl rofl rofl

lol :thumbsup:


only a fool would sign up for that shyterofl

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Sat 11/02/13 02:19 AM
The Republicans came up with an amazing health care bill, it's less then 200 pages and doesn't put our country in the massive debt Obamacare does.

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Sat 11/02/13 02:32 AM

Is ACA Socialism or Corporatism?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQtxcKT-u_Y

Statism!

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Sat 11/02/13 06:09 PM


Speaking of statism...



Statism is the concentration of economic controls and planning by a highly centralized government
that often extends to government ownership of industry.

It is often used to refer to state capitalism and state socialism through nationalization as a means of running industry in the interest of the majority.
Statism exists in varying degrees in every country in the world.

At the extreme statism
encompasses communism, fascism, and other forms of totalitarianism.

In short, statism is the doubt that economic and individual freedom is nessecary, workable or practical.





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Sat 11/02/13 06:34 PM
In short, statism is the doubt that economic and individual freedom is necessary, workable or practical.


You mean like the Democratic Party? :tongue:

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Sun 11/03/13 02:16 AM



Speaking of statism...



Statism is the concentration of economic controls and planning by a highly centralized government
that often extends to government ownership of industry.

It is often used to refer to state capitalism and state socialism through nationalization as a means of running industry in the interest of the majority.
Statism exists in varying degrees in every country in the world.

At the extreme statism
encompasses communism, fascism, and other forms of totalitarianism.

In short, statism is the doubt that economic and individual freedom is nessecary, workable or practical.







Doubt?laugh


If the term “statism” designates concentration of power in the state at the expense of individual liberty, then Nazism in politics was a form of statism. In principle, it did not represent a new approach to government; it was a continuation of the political absolutism—the absolute monarchies, the oligarchies, the theocracies, the random tyrannies—which has characterized most of human history.

In degree, however, the total state does differ from its predecessors: it represents statism pressed to its limits, in theory and in practice, devouring the last remnants of the individual.

The Ominous Parallels

Leonard Peikoff,
The Ominous Parallels

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A statist is a man who believes that some men have the right to force, coerce, enslave, rob, and murder others. To be put into practice, this belief has to be implemented by the political doctrine that the government—the state—has the right to initiate the use of physical force against its citizens. How often force is to be used, against whom, to what extent, for what purpose and for whose benefit, are irrelevant questions. The basic principle and the ultimate results of all statist doctrines are the same: dictatorship and destruction. The rest is only a matter of time.

Government control of a country’s economy—any kind or degree of such control, by any group, for any purpose whatsoever—rests on the basic principle of statism, the principle that man’s life belongs to the state.
Ayn Rand

A statist system—whether of a communist, fascist, Nazi, socialist or “welfare” type—is based on the . . . government’s unlimited power, which means: on the rule of brute force. The differences among statist systems are only a matter of time and degree; the principle is the same. Under statism, the government is not a policeman, but a legalized criminal that holds the power to use physical force in any manner and for any purpose it pleases against legally disarmed, defenseless victims.

Nothing can ever justify so monstrously evil a theory. Nothing can justify the horror, the brutality, the plunder, the destruction, the starvation, the slave-labor camps, the torture chambers, the wholesale slaughter of statist dictatorships.

The Objectivist Newsletter

“War and Peace,”
The Objectivist Newsletter, Oct. 1962

The political expression of altruism is collectivism or statism, which holds that man’s life and work belong to the state—to society, to the group, the gang, the race, the nation—and that the state may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good.

The Objectivist Newsletter

“Introducing Objectivism,”
The Objectivist Newsletter, Aug. 1962,