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Topic: Worst shootings are coming;nip it now in the bud!
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Wed 09/18/13 03:09 PM









violent crime is on the decrease, has been for a few decades if Im not mistaken

we do place more of a premium on things and money than we do on people or community,, which certainly makes it easier to justify why some deserve life less than others do

the first step is to dehumananize people, diminish them in their human significance,, and then its easy to snuff out their lives

I think we have media , education, and politics to thank for the culture that qualifies the significance of peoples lives,,,on their work status, or their financial class, or their race, or their gender, or their choice of behaviors or words,,,

and people get far too much of their information from unchecked media instead of from living and experiencing for themselves.. people think if they see and hear about it more its happening more, and if they don't hear about it at all it must not be happening

the media has become our source, instead of life and community and family, and the human connection

I think its the opposite of pc that is our problem and more about the basic western value system we have that usually is in direct conflict with being pc, and more concerned with taking care of 'self' and climbing up on a pedestal where we can earn the right to look down upon the worth of others,,,


Violent crime is on the decrease because more people are able to defend themselves..... except in places with gun free zones or control laws where criminals have free reign, and such places are more often their choice for their chosen events.



I have already posted why its a false conclusion that criminals choose places based upon whether or not they are 'gun free'


not a very convincing argument you made,though!
The Criminal chooses places where he can get the most with the least hassle,regardless what progressive Mother Jones might babble about!
And the 'Most' isn't necessary monetary value!



most mass killers are set off by something PERSONAL and have a PERSONAL connection to the location, they don't CHOOSE It based upon its gun free status

Maurice clemmons walked into a place to TARGET cops,, obviously armed

Virginia tech, a student
columbine, students

these things start off with no rhyme or reason for some PERSONAL econection,, there is no evidence of any cognizant awareness or thought of whether the locations are 'gun free' or not


Your liberal logic is in full operational mode!

Killers are looking for victims, grandiose recognition, their 15 minutes of fame, or to make a statement.

They target based on affect. Gun free zones give them their perfect scenario to accomplish that. Your thinking doesn't prevent victims to these crimes. it creates them!

When one of your shooters targets a meeting of the NRA, a cop bar, the black panther HQ, the white house, the pentagon or any other secure or known place with armed resistance, other than schools, churches, movie theaters and other gun free zones that have already been allowed for them, your argument may have just a beginning of any reality to it.


you can take a horse to water,,,,

believe what you want

there is no disputing the majority of the mass killing start with someone or someplace that has a PERSONAL connection to the shooter

there is also no disputing that a great deal of the killers are PLANNING to die anyway so whether someone is shooting back would not really matter

and the navy base had guns and people shooting back, which may be why the shooter chose such a high point to shoot from

,,but,, whatever keeps the paranoid 'must own a gun to be safe' crowd going,,,


What you call paranoia, most sane people would call preparedness, and even if I had the slightest inclination to want to believe your BS, my respect for the Constitution which protects the rights of the people in the 2nd amendment would never allow me to agree



that's your prerogative for sure

and my respect for human life would never allow me to believe the constitution was written as a way to ensure every person have any and every weapon of their choice

regardless of their mental stability or training,,,
the Youth of your Country and also my Country once,long ago were trained in the safe responsible way of handling Firearms,but that was the first thing the Progressives disallowed,and now we see the Harvest of what they sowed!
Today's mess is a direct effect of those politically correct policies by the Gungrabbers!

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