Topic: Obama protesters in MO arrested
Dodo_David's photo
Thu 08/22/13 05:59 PM

I think it would be fair to say that the FAIR which was going on was causing a back up more so than the protestors.


"People are looking up when they should be looking forward," Nothum said of drivers.


It wasn't a concern for traffic being backed up.

Is not like there was a mob of people with signs marching around, it was like 3 people standing on the sidewalk. InI California when there's a protest it usually involves several people blocking the streets with their mobs. That's a safety hazard and blocking streets is illegal. That's how we roll!


Are you saying that Californians cause more trouble than Missourians?



Anyway, I don't know if those protesters succeeded in attracting the attention of drivers. This may be a case in which police officers assumed wrong.

Winx's photo
Thu 08/22/13 06:12 PM
Edited by Winx on Thu 08/22/13 06:15 PM

I think it would be fair to say that the FAIR which was going on was causing a back up more so than the protestors. Is not like there was a mob of people with signs marching around, it was like 3 people standing on the sidewalk. InI California when there's a protest it usually involves several people blocking the streets with their mobs. That's a safety hazard and blocking streets is illegal. That's how we roll!


There were more than three people protesting.

"the potential for a traffic hazard was why the two and 10 or so other protesters were told by officers to leave the Fairgrounds Road overpass about 2 p.m."

Everybody left as they were asked except for the last two.

Also, the Fair didn't cause the highway to be backed up. The highway wasn't backed up.

St. Charles isn't the type of place to have "mobs". It's an upper class area.






willing2's photo
Thu 08/22/13 07:01 PM
If, I read that and heard the video correctly, I do believe they were asked to leave. Not told they had to.

I would like to know if they are back there on Saturday and if, the charges were dropped.

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 08/22/13 07:19 PM
Regardless of the legal outcome, those protesters are wasting their time anyway.

Simonedemidova's photo
Thu 08/22/13 08:33 PM


I think it would be fair to say that the FAIR which was going on was causing a back up more so than the protestors. Is not like there was a mob of people with signs marching around, it was like 3 people standing on the sidewalk. InI California when there's a protest it usually involves several people blocking the streets with their mobs. That's a safety hazard and blocking streets is illegal. That's how we roll!


There were more than three people protesting.

"the potential for a traffic hazard was why the two and 10 or so other protesters were told by officers to leave the Fairgrounds Road overpass about 2 p.m."

Everybody left as they were asked except for the last two.

Also, the Fair didn't cause the highway to be backed up. The highway wasn't backed up.

St. Charles isn't the type of place to have "mobs". It's an upper class area.








Oh well you mentioned there was a fair going on, usually traffic gets heavier when there are events going on.

As far as upper class I know the difference. I'm just saying a real protest is supposed to get people's attention otherwise, why bother at all. Is a person or group of people less "classy" because they support a cause? I've seen mobs of cancer survivors walking the streets to bring "AWARENESS" are they un-classy?

Winx's photo
Thu 08/22/13 08:37 PM

If, I read that and heard the video correctly, I do believe they were asked to leave. Not told they had to.

I would like to know if they are back there on Saturday and if, the charges were dropped.


They were released:

ST. CHARLES, Mo. (KSDK) - Two men tied to the "Overpasses for Obama's Impeachment" movement were arrested over the weekend for allegedly distracting drivers on Interstate 70 and creating safety hazard, the Missouri State Highway Patrol said.

According to Sgt. Al Nothum, a spokesman for the MSHP, the incident occurred Saturday, August 17 just after 2:15 p.m. on the Fairgrounds Road Overpass near 5th Street and I-70. A group of protestors were there holding signs reading, "Honk If You Want To See Obama Impeached."

Because of the large amount of traffic in the area due to the Festival of the Little Hills, Nothum said troopers observed five accidents resulting from distracted drivers and several near collisions.

The MSHP determined the protestors were causing a public hazard by distracting drivers and repeatedly asked the group to move off the overpass and protest elsewhere. Two of the protestors, identified as 41-year-old Marc Messmer and 59-year-old Jimmy Weed, refused the troopers' requests and were arrested for willfully opposing a member of the MSHP. In addition, Messmer would not comply with troopers' instructions and was also charged with resisting arrest.

The two men were jailed for 24 hours and released.


http://www.ksdk.com/rss/article/394023/3/Obama-protesters-arrested-over-the-weekend-in-St-Charles

willing2's photo
Thu 08/22/13 08:40 PM
They might consider getting a permit to protest.

Winx's photo
Thu 08/22/13 08:47 PM



I think it would be fair to say that the FAIR which was going on was causing a back up more so than the protestors. Is not like there was a mob of people with signs marching around, it was like 3 people standing on the sidewalk. InI California when there's a protest it usually involves several people blocking the streets with their mobs. That's a safety hazard and blocking streets is illegal. That's how we roll!


There were more than three people protesting.

"the potential for a traffic hazard was why the two and 10 or so other protesters were told by officers to leave the Fairgrounds Road overpass about 2 p.m."

Everybody left as they were asked except for the last two.

Also, the Fair didn't cause the highway to be backed up. The highway wasn't backed up.

St. Charles isn't the type of place to have "mobs". It's an upper class area.








Oh well you mentioned there was a fair going on, usually traffic gets heavier when there are events going on.

As far as upper class I know the difference. I'm just saying a real protest is supposed to get people's attention otherwise, why bother at all. Is a person or group of people less "classy" because they support a cause? I've seen mobs of cancer survivors walking the streets to bring "AWARENESS" are they un-classy?


There is nothing "un-classy" about this:

ST. LOUIS (KSDK) - Tens of thousands of people gathered in downtown St. Louis Saturday morning for the 15th annual Komen St. Louis Race for the Cure to raise money for the local fight against breast cancer, celebrate breast cancer survivorship, and honor those who have lost their battle with the disease.

Just over 40,000 people registered for this year's race, including 3,500 survivors, down from last year's total of 51,000 participants.

So far this year's race has raised $2.1 million for breast cancer research and prevention. Seventy five percent of that money stays right here in St. Louis.


http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/384486/3/Race-for-the-Cure-2013-a-success


Winx's photo
Thu 08/22/13 08:48 PM

They might consider getting a permit to protest.



That will work. :thumbsup:

Simonedemidova's photo
Thu 08/22/13 11:51 PM




I think it would be fair to say that the FAIR which was going on was causing a back up more so than the protestors. Is not like there was a mob of people with signs marching around, it was like 3 people standing on the sidewalk. InI California when there's a protest it usually involves several people blocking the streets with their mobs. That's a safety hazard and blocking streets is illegal. That's how we roll!


There were more than three people protesting.

"the potential for a traffic hazard was why the two and 10 or so other protesters were told by officers to leave the Fairgrounds Road overpass about 2 p.m."

Everybody left as they were asked except for the last two.

Also, the Fair didn't cause the highway to be backed up. The highway wasn't backed up.

St. Charles isn't the type of place to have "mobs". It's an upper class area.








Oh well you mentioned there was a fair going on, usually traffic gets heavier when there are events going on.

As far as upper class I know the difference. I'm just saying a real protest is supposed to get people's attention otherwise, why bother at all. Is a person or group of people less "classy" because they support a cause? I've seen mobs of cancer survivors walking the streets to bring "AWARENESS" are they un-classy?


There is nothing "un-classy" about this:

ST. LOUIS (KSDK) - Tens of thousands of people gathered in downtown St. Louis Saturday morning for the 15th annual Komen St. Louis Race for the Cure to raise money for the local fight against breast cancer, celebrate breast cancer survivorship, and honor those who have lost their battle with the disease.

Just over 40,000 people registered for this year's race, including 3,500 survivors, down from last year's total of 51,000 participants.

So far this year's race has raised $2.1 million for breast cancer research and prevention. Seventy five percent of that money stays right here in St. Louis.


http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/384486/3/Race-for-the-Cure-2013-a-success




Of course not, you finally get my point.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/23/13 01:48 AM

They might consider getting a permit to protest.

Permission to exercise their 1th Amendment-Rights?

Winx's photo
Fri 08/23/13 06:55 AM





I think it would be fair to say that the FAIR which was going on was causing a back up more so than the protestors. Is not like there was a mob of people with signs marching around, it was like 3 people standing on the sidewalk. InI California when there's a protest it usually involves several people blocking the streets with their mobs. That's a safety hazard and blocking streets is illegal. That's how we roll!


There were more than three people protesting.

"the potential for a traffic hazard was why the two and 10 or so other protesters were told by officers to leave the Fairgrounds Road overpass about 2 p.m."

Everybody left as they were asked except for the last two.

Also, the Fair didn't cause the highway to be backed up. The highway wasn't backed up.

St. Charles isn't the type of place to have "mobs". It's an upper class area.








Oh well you mentioned there was a fair going on, usually traffic gets heavier when there are events going on.

As far as upper class I know the difference. I'm just saying a real protest is supposed to get people's attention otherwise, why bother at all. Is a person or group of people less "classy" because they support a cause? I've seen mobs of cancer survivors walking the streets to bring "AWARENESS" are they un-classy?


There is nothing "un-classy" about this:

ST. LOUIS (KSDK) - Tens of thousands of people gathered in downtown St. Louis Saturday morning for the 15th annual Komen St. Louis Race for the Cure to raise money for the local fight against breast cancer, celebrate breast cancer survivorship, and honor those who have lost their battle with the disease.

Just over 40,000 people registered for this year's race, including 3,500 survivors, down from last year's total of 51,000 participants.

So far this year's race has raised $2.1 million for breast cancer research and prevention. Seventy five percent of that money stays right here in St. Louis.


http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/384486/3/Race-for-the-Cure-2013-a-success




Of course not, you finally get my point.


The Race for the Cure crowd is not a mob. It's an event.

Simonedemidova's photo
Fri 08/23/13 02:18 PM
Edited by Simonedemidova on Fri 08/23/13 02:23 PM


They might consider getting a permit to protest.

Permission to exercise their 1th Amendment-Rights?


Exactly, so you can apply for a permit so they can deny your request! You know when all the "OCCUPY" protestors were out, in California they occupied many places but were never asked to leave their position but were asked to apply for an "overnight" permit to camp on the beach after curfew. Camping on the beach is illegal in some spots. However sitting on the corner of PCH and exercising your right to free speech is not a crime, it was supposed to be a privilege. Our mayor came out and told them to make sure they didn't violate the beach hours that was all, and asked them not to leave their litter behind when they packed up each night. It was peaceful.

Simonedemidova's photo
Fri 08/23/13 02:28 PM
Edited by Simonedemidova on Fri 08/23/13 02:29 PM






I think it would be fair to say that the FAIR which was going on was causing a back up more so than the protestors. Is not like there was a mob of people with signs marching around, it was like 3 people standing on the sidewalk. InI California when there's a protest it usually involves several people blocking the streets with their mobs. That's a safety hazard and blocking streets is illegal. That's how we roll!


There were more than three people protesting.

"the potential for a traffic hazard was why the two and 10 or so other protesters were told by officers to leave the Fairgrounds Road overpass about 2 p.m."

Everybody left as they were asked except for the last two.

Also, the Fair didn't cause the highway to be backed up. The highway wasn't backed up.

St. Charles isn't the type of place to have "mobs". It's an upper class area.








Oh well you mentioned there was a fair going on, usually traffic gets heavier when there are events going on.

As far as upper class I know the difference. I'm just saying a real protest is supposed to get people's attention otherwise, why bother at all. Is a person or group of people less "classy" because they support a cause? I've seen mobs of cancer survivors walking the streets to bring "AWARENESS" are they un-classy?


There is nothing "un-classy" about this:

ST. LOUIS (KSDK) - Tens of thousands of people gathered in downtown St. Louis Saturday morning for the 15th annual Komen St. Louis Race for the Cure to raise money for the local fight against breast cancer, celebrate breast cancer survivorship, and honor those who have lost their battle with the disease.

Just over 40,000 people registered for this year's race, including 3,500 survivors, down from last year's total of 51,000 participants.

So far this year's race has raised $2.1 million for breast cancer research and prevention. Seventy five percent of that money stays right here in St. Louis.


http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/384486/3/Race-for-the-Cure-2013-a-success




Of course not, you finally get my point.


The Race for the Cure crowd is not a mob. It's an event.


There's probably not enough people in MO to create a CROWD large enough for a disruptive protest. I'm not bagging on you or your town, it's not even about you or whether or not your people are classy or Un-classy, it's about the freedom of Americans regardless of race religion or political background, we should have a voice and should be able to use it. It's not like they were spray painting their messages on public property or throwing bombs at cops or anything, it was a peaceful protest, charges were not filed because there never was a violation other than the accusation of " resisting arrest" based on an arrest without cause.

andrewzooms's photo
Sun 08/25/13 05:13 PM

They might consider getting a permit to protest.



laugh How much is that going to cost? Pay to Exercise the 1st Amendment.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 08/26/13 07:28 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 08/26/13 07:29 AM


This guy don't care about cost....only effect!

Simonedemidova's photo
Tue 08/27/13 09:03 AM
Hahalaugh

Simonedemidova's photo
Thu 08/29/13 03:47 PM
S why aren't they arresting the fast food protestors today, there are so many of them marching in a circle voicing their opinions, oh yeah I forgot because its not relevant to Obama saving face!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 08/29/13 04:01 PM

S why aren't they arresting the fast food protestors today, there are so many of them marching in a circle voicing their opinions, oh yeah I forgot because its not relevant to Obama saving face!


It's because the unions and the corporations don't want these protesters to be hassled. After all, they are protesting themselves right out of a job and back on welfare. More jobs for college grads, more money for unions, and a monopoly for the corporations when the mom and pops go under!

willing2's photo
Thu 08/29/13 04:01 PM
Good point.
And, the cops are skeert of mobs of two or more people.