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Topic: was Jesus actually Julius Ceaser?
mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/02/13 07:52 AM
SOESTERBERG, The Netherlands, February 8 /PRNewswire/ --
http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/jesus-was-caesar-new-book-by-philosopher-and-linguist-francesco-carotta-claims-that-the-real-identity-of-jesus-christ-has-been-discovered-154575075.html
- Carotta: 'Everything of the Story of Jesus can be Found in the Biography of Caesar.'

The Italian-German linguist and philosopher Francesco Carotta proves in his book Jesus was Caesar that the story of Jesus Christ has its origin in Roman sources. In more than fifteen years of investigation Carotta has found the traces which lead to the Julian origin of Christianity. He concludes that the story of Jesus is based on the narrative of the life of Julius Caesar.

Carotta: ''The Gospel proves to be the history of the Roman Civil war, a 'mis-telling' of the life of Caesar-from the Rubicon to his assassination-mutated into the narrative of Jesus, from the Jordan to his crucifixion. Jesus is a true historical figure, he lived as Gaius Julius Caesar, and ressurected as Divus Julius.''

The cult surrounding Jesus Christ, son of God and originator of Christianity appeared during the second century. Early historians, however, never mentioned Jesus and even until now there has been no actual proof of his existence. Julius Caesar, son of Venus and founder of the Roman Empire, was elevated to the status of Imperial God, Divus Julius, after his violent death. The cult that surrounded him dissolved as Christianity surfaced.

Carotta's new evidence leads to such an overwhelming amount of similarities between the biography of Caesar and the story of Jesus that coincidence can be ruled out.

- Both Caesar and Jesus start their rising careers in neighboring states in the north: Gallia and Galilee.

- Both have to cross a fateful river: the Rubicon and the Jordan. Once across the rivers, they both come across a patron/rival: Pompeius and John the Baptist, and their first followers: Antonius and Curio on the one hand and Peter and Andrew on the other.

- Both are continually on the move, finally arriving at the capital, Rome and Jerusalem, where they at first triumph, yet subsequently undergo their passion.

- Both have good relationships with women and have a special relationship with one particular woman, Caesar with Cleopatra and Jesus with Magdalene.

- Both have encounters at night, Caesar with Nicomedes of Bithynia, Jesus with Nicodemus of Bethany.

- Both have an affinity to ordinary people-and both run afoul of the highest authorities: Caesar with the Senate, Jesus with the Sanhedrin.

- Both are contentious characters, but show praiseworthy clemency as well: the clementia Caesaris and Jesus' Love-thy-enemy.

- Both have a traitor: Brutus and Judas. And an assassin who at first gets away: the other Brutus and Barabbas. And one who washes his hands of it: Lepidus and Pilate.

- Both are accused of making themselves kings: King of the Romans and King of the Jews. Both are dressed in red royal robes and wear a crown on their heads: a laurel wreath and a crown of thorns.

- Both get killed: Caesar is stabbed with daggers, Jesus is crucified, but with a stab wound in his side.

- Jesus as well as Caesar hang on a cross. For a reconstruction of the crucifixion of Caesar, see:

http://www.carotta.de/subseite/texte/jwc_e/crux.html#images

- Both die on the same respective dates of the year: Caesar on the Ides (15 th) of March, Jesus on the 15 th of Nisan.

- Both are deified posthumously: as Divus Iulius and as Jesus Christ.

- Caesar and Jesus also use the same words, e.g.: Caesar's famous Latin 'Veni, vidi, vici'-I came, I saw, I conquered-is in the Gospel transmitted into: 'I came, washed and saw', whereby Greek enipsa, 'I washed', replaces enikisa, 'I conquered'.

Prominent European scholars and intellectuals are jubilant:

'This report is of the same order of importance as the scientific discoveries of Darwin and Galileo. - Paul Cliteur, Ph. D., University of Leiden, The Netherlands -

'Reading Francesco Carotta's book has fascinated me, ...leading the mind of the reader step by step to the solution of an obscure intrigue. This voyage was like a liberating and exhilarating breath of fresh air.' -Fotis Kavoukopoulos Ph. D., an international expert in linguistics, Athens, Greece -

-'New connections which have never been seen that way'.

-Erika Simon Ph.D. Germany

Francesco Carotta Jesus was Caesar. On the Julian Origin of Christianity ISBN 90 5911 396 9 Sales: UK: sales@gazellebooks.com USA: adam@isbs.com or info@uitgeverijaspekt.nl L 24,95, USD 44,95, Euro 32

SOURCE Aspekt Publishers

EdwardCB's photo
Fri 08/02/13 07:58 AM
Hmmm interesting

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/02/13 08:03 AM
bet this Book will end up on the Catholic Books-Blacklist!:laughing:


mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/02/13 08:03 AM

Hmmm interesting


lol... makes me wanna buy a book...

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/02/13 08:04 AM


Hmmm interesting


lol... makes me wanna buy a book...
not me,I already got a Book!:laughing:

mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/02/13 08:06 AM



Hmmm interesting


lol... makes me wanna buy a book...
not me,I already got a Book!:laughing:


i had one once... not sure what happened to it

EdwardCB's photo
Fri 08/02/13 08:10 AM




Hmmm interesting


lol... makes me wanna buy a book...
not me,I already got a Book!:laughing:


i had one once... not sure what happened to it

Yeh same thing happened to my bible. Oh wait a minute I remember, used it for joint papers

TBRich's photo
Fri 08/02/13 08:12 AM
Sounds a bit far-fetched. Best I read was that Jesus was based on the Teacher of Righteousness circaz the Maccabee era.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/02/13 08:15 AM




Hmmm interesting


lol... makes me wanna buy a book...
not me,I already got a Book!:laughing:


i had one once... not sure what happened to it
laugh

Milesoftheusa's photo
Fri 08/02/13 10:00 AM

SOESTERBERG, The Netherlands, February 8 /PRNewswire/ --
http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/jesus-was-caesar-new-book-by-philosopher-and-linguist-francesco-carotta-claims-that-the-real-identity-of-jesus-christ-has-been-discovered-154575075.html
- Carotta: 'Everything of the Story of Jesus can be Found in the Biography of Caesar.'

The Italian-German linguist and philosopher Francesco Carotta proves in his book Jesus was Caesar that the story of Jesus Christ has its origin in Roman sources. In more than fifteen years of investigation Carotta has found the traces which lead to the Julian origin of Christianity. He concludes that the story of Jesus is based on the narrative of the life of Julius Caesar.

Carotta: ''The Gospel proves to be the history of the Roman Civil war, a 'mis-telling' of the life of Caesar-from the Rubicon to his assassination-mutated into the narrative of Jesus, from the Jordan to his crucifixion. Jesus is a true historical figure, he lived as Gaius Julius Caesar, and ressurected as Divus Julius.''

The cult surrounding Jesus Christ, son of God and originator of Christianity appeared during the second century. Early historians, however, never mentioned Jesus and even until now there has been no actual proof of his existence. Julius Caesar, son of Venus and founder of the Roman Empire, was elevated to the status of Imperial God, Divus Julius, after his violent death. The cult that surrounded him dissolved as Christianity surfaced.

Carotta's new evidence leads to such an overwhelming amount of similarities between the biography of Caesar and the story of Jesus that coincidence can be ruled out.

- Both Caesar and Jesus start their rising careers in neighboring states in the north: Gallia and Galilee.

- Both have to cross a fateful river: the Rubicon and the Jordan. Once across the rivers, they both come across a patron/rival: Pompeius and John the Baptist, and their first followers: Antonius and Curio on the one hand and Peter and Andrew on the other.

- Both are continually on the move, finally arriving at the capital, Rome and Jerusalem, where they at first triumph, yet subsequently undergo their passion.

- Both have good relationships with women and have a special relationship with one particular woman, Caesar with Cleopatra and Jesus with Magdalene.

- Both have encounters at night, Caesar with Nicomedes of Bithynia, Jesus with Nicodemus of Bethany.

- Both have an affinity to ordinary people-and both run afoul of the highest authorities: Caesar with the Senate, Jesus with the Sanhedrin.

- Both are contentious characters, but show praiseworthy clemency as well: the clementia Caesaris and Jesus' Love-thy-enemy.

- Both have a traitor: Brutus and Judas. And an assassin who at first gets away: the other Brutus and Barabbas. And one who washes his hands of it: Lepidus and Pilate.

- Both are accused of making themselves kings: King of the Romans and King of the Jews. Both are dressed in red royal robes and wear a crown on their heads: a laurel wreath and a crown of thorns.

- Both get killed: Caesar is stabbed with daggers, Jesus is crucified, but with a stab wound in his side.

- Jesus as well as Caesar hang on a cross. For a reconstruction of the crucifixion of Caesar, see:

http://www.carotta.de/subseite/texte/jwc_e/crux.html#images

- Both die on the same respective dates of the year: Caesar on the Ides (15 th) of March, Jesus on the 15 th of Nisan.

- Both are deified posthumously: as Divus Iulius and as Jesus Christ.

- Caesar and Jesus also use the same words, e.g.: Caesar's famous Latin 'Veni, vidi, vici'-I came, I saw, I conquered-is in the Gospel transmitted into: 'I came, washed and saw', whereby Greek enipsa, 'I washed', replaces enikisa, 'I conquered'.

Prominent European scholars and intellectuals are jubilant:

'This report is of the same order of importance as the scientific discoveries of Darwin and Galileo. - Paul Cliteur, Ph. D., University of Leiden, The Netherlands -

'Reading Francesco Carotta's book has fascinated me, ...leading the mind of the reader step by step to the solution of an obscure intrigue. This voyage was like a liberating and exhilarating breath of fresh air.' -Fotis Kavoukopoulos Ph. D., an international expert in linguistics, Athens, Greece -

-'New connections which have never been seen that way'.

-Erika Simon Ph.D. Germany

Francesco Carotta Jesus was Caesar. On the Julian Origin of Christianity ISBN 90 5911 396 9 Sales: UK: sales@gazellebooks.com USA: adam@isbs.com or info@uitgeverijaspekt.nl L 24,95, USD 44,95, Euro 32

SOURCE Aspekt Publishers
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well apparently they know nothing about the 2nd 1/2 of the 1st century.. just go look up Polycarp the Disciple of John of Patmos and Polycrates the disciple of Polycarp.

Polycarp was a early disciple. Because it is recorded by historians in 90 ad for refusing not to celebrate Passover he was put on a stake with wood and straw around him and set on fire. when this fire started as h cried out to Yahweh his belly burst I believe spreading water all over putting the fire out and they could not kill him by fire.. just like why John was sent to Patmos because they trie dipping him in boiling oil and he was not harmed.. that's why he was banished to Patmos. Just do a search for Polycarp and you will see where they waisted their time

mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/02/13 10:08 AM


SOESTERBERG, The Netherlands, February 8 /PRNewswire/ --
http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/jesus-was-caesar-new-book-by-philosopher-and-linguist-francesco-carotta-claims-that-the-real-identity-of-jesus-christ-has-been-discovered-154575075.html
- Carotta: 'Everything of the Story of Jesus can be Found in the Biography of Caesar.'

The Italian-German linguist and philosopher Francesco Carotta proves in his book Jesus was Caesar that the story of Jesus Christ has its origin in Roman sources. In more than fifteen years of investigation Carotta has found the traces which lead to the Julian origin of Christianity. He concludes that the story of Jesus is based on the narrative of the life of Julius Caesar.

Carotta: ''The Gospel proves to be the history of the Roman Civil war, a 'mis-telling' of the life of Caesar-from the Rubicon to his assassination-mutated into the narrative of Jesus, from the Jordan to his crucifixion. Jesus is a true historical figure, he lived as Gaius Julius Caesar, and ressurected as Divus Julius.''

The cult surrounding Jesus Christ, son of God and originator of Christianity appeared during the second century. Early historians, however, never mentioned Jesus and even until now there has been no actual proof of his existence. Julius Caesar, son of Venus and founder of the Roman Empire, was elevated to the status of Imperial God, Divus Julius, after his violent death. The cult that surrounded him dissolved as Christianity surfaced.

Carotta's new evidence leads to such an overwhelming amount of similarities between the biography of Caesar and the story of Jesus that coincidence can be ruled out.

- Both Caesar and Jesus start their rising careers in neighboring states in the north: Gallia and Galilee.

- Both have to cross a fateful river: the Rubicon and the Jordan. Once across the rivers, they both come across a patron/rival: Pompeius and John the Baptist, and their first followers: Antonius and Curio on the one hand and Peter and Andrew on the other.

- Both are continually on the move, finally arriving at the capital, Rome and Jerusalem, where they at first triumph, yet subsequently undergo their passion.

- Both have good relationships with women and have a special relationship with one particular woman, Caesar with Cleopatra and Jesus with Magdalene.

- Both have encounters at night, Caesar with Nicomedes of Bithynia, Jesus with Nicodemus of Bethany.

- Both have an affinity to ordinary people-and both run afoul of the highest authorities: Caesar with the Senate, Jesus with the Sanhedrin.

- Both are contentious characters, but show praiseworthy clemency as well: the clementia Caesaris and Jesus' Love-thy-enemy.

- Both have a traitor: Brutus and Judas. And an assassin who at first gets away: the other Brutus and Barabbas. And one who washes his hands of it: Lepidus and Pilate.

- Both are accused of making themselves kings: King of the Romans and King of the Jews. Both are dressed in red royal robes and wear a crown on their heads: a laurel wreath and a crown of thorns.

- Both get killed: Caesar is stabbed with daggers, Jesus is crucified, but with a stab wound in his side.

- Jesus as well as Caesar hang on a cross. For a reconstruction of the crucifixion of Caesar, see:

http://www.carotta.de/subseite/texte/jwc_e/crux.html#images

- Both die on the same respective dates of the year: Caesar on the Ides (15 th) of March, Jesus on the 15 th of Nisan.

- Both are deified posthumously: as Divus Iulius and as Jesus Christ.

- Caesar and Jesus also use the same words, e.g.: Caesar's famous Latin 'Veni, vidi, vici'-I came, I saw, I conquered-is in the Gospel transmitted into: 'I came, washed and saw', whereby Greek enipsa, 'I washed', replaces enikisa, 'I conquered'.

Prominent European scholars and intellectuals are jubilant:

'This report is of the same order of importance as the scientific discoveries of Darwin and Galileo. - Paul Cliteur, Ph. D., University of Leiden, The Netherlands -

'Reading Francesco Carotta's book has fascinated me, ...leading the mind of the reader step by step to the solution of an obscure intrigue. This voyage was like a liberating and exhilarating breath of fresh air.' -Fotis Kavoukopoulos Ph. D., an international expert in linguistics, Athens, Greece -

-'New connections which have never been seen that way'.

-Erika Simon Ph.D. Germany

Francesco Carotta Jesus was Caesar. On the Julian Origin of Christianity ISBN 90 5911 396 9 Sales: UK: sales@gazellebooks.com USA: adam@isbs.com or info@uitgeverijaspekt.nl L 24,95, USD 44,95, Euro 32

SOURCE Aspekt Publishers



well apparently they know nothing about the 2nd 1/2 of the 1st century.. just go look up Polycarp the Disciple of John of Patmos and Polycrates the disciple of Polycarp.

Polycarp was a early disciple. Because it is recorded by historians in 90 ad for refusing not to celebrate Passover he was put on a stake with wood and straw around him and set on fire. when this fire started as h cried out to Yahweh his belly burst I believe spreading water all over putting the fire out and they could not kill him by fire.. just like why John was sent to Patmos because they trie dipping him in boiling oil and he was not harmed.. that's why he was banished to Patmos. Just do a search for Polycarp and you will see where they waisted their time


hardly compelling evidence... sounds like your just typing more myths...

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/02/13 10:15 AM



SOESTERBERG, The Netherlands, February 8 /PRNewswire/ --
http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/jesus-was-caesar-new-book-by-philosopher-and-linguist-francesco-carotta-claims-that-the-real-identity-of-jesus-christ-has-been-discovered-154575075.html
- Carotta: 'Everything of the Story of Jesus can be Found in the Biography of Caesar.'

The Italian-German linguist and philosopher Francesco Carotta proves in his book Jesus was Caesar that the story of Jesus Christ has its origin in Roman sources. In more than fifteen years of investigation Carotta has found the traces which lead to the Julian origin of Christianity. He concludes that the story of Jesus is based on the narrative of the life of Julius Caesar.

Carotta: ''The Gospel proves to be the history of the Roman Civil war, a 'mis-telling' of the life of Caesar-from the Rubicon to his assassination-mutated into the narrative of Jesus, from the Jordan to his crucifixion. Jesus is a true historical figure, he lived as Gaius Julius Caesar, and ressurected as Divus Julius.''

The cult surrounding Jesus Christ, son of God and originator of Christianity appeared during the second century. Early historians, however, never mentioned Jesus and even until now there has been no actual proof of his existence. Julius Caesar, son of Venus and founder of the Roman Empire, was elevated to the status of Imperial God, Divus Julius, after his violent death. The cult that surrounded him dissolved as Christianity surfaced.

Carotta's new evidence leads to such an overwhelming amount of similarities between the biography of Caesar and the story of Jesus that coincidence can be ruled out.

- Both Caesar and Jesus start their rising careers in neighboring states in the north: Gallia and Galilee.

- Both have to cross a fateful river: the Rubicon and the Jordan. Once across the rivers, they both come across a patron/rival: Pompeius and John the Baptist, and their first followers: Antonius and Curio on the one hand and Peter and Andrew on the other.

- Both are continually on the move, finally arriving at the capital, Rome and Jerusalem, where they at first triumph, yet subsequently undergo their passion.

- Both have good relationships with women and have a special relationship with one particular woman, Caesar with Cleopatra and Jesus with Magdalene.

- Both have encounters at night, Caesar with Nicomedes of Bithynia, Jesus with Nicodemus of Bethany.

- Both have an affinity to ordinary people-and both run afoul of the highest authorities: Caesar with the Senate, Jesus with the Sanhedrin.

- Both are contentious characters, but show praiseworthy clemency as well: the clementia Caesaris and Jesus' Love-thy-enemy.

- Both have a traitor: Brutus and Judas. And an assassin who at first gets away: the other Brutus and Barabbas. And one who washes his hands of it: Lepidus and Pilate.

- Both are accused of making themselves kings: King of the Romans and King of the Jews. Both are dressed in red royal robes and wear a crown on their heads: a laurel wreath and a crown of thorns.

- Both get killed: Caesar is stabbed with daggers, Jesus is crucified, but with a stab wound in his side.

- Jesus as well as Caesar hang on a cross. For a reconstruction of the crucifixion of Caesar, see:

http://www.carotta.de/subseite/texte/jwc_e/crux.html#images

- Both die on the same respective dates of the year: Caesar on the Ides (15 th) of March, Jesus on the 15 th of Nisan.

- Both are deified posthumously: as Divus Iulius and as Jesus Christ.

- Caesar and Jesus also use the same words, e.g.: Caesar's famous Latin 'Veni, vidi, vici'-I came, I saw, I conquered-is in the Gospel transmitted into: 'I came, washed and saw', whereby Greek enipsa, 'I washed', replaces enikisa, 'I conquered'.

Prominent European scholars and intellectuals are jubilant:

'This report is of the same order of importance as the scientific discoveries of Darwin and Galileo. - Paul Cliteur, Ph. D., University of Leiden, The Netherlands -

'Reading Francesco Carotta's book has fascinated me, ...leading the mind of the reader step by step to the solution of an obscure intrigue. This voyage was like a liberating and exhilarating breath of fresh air.' -Fotis Kavoukopoulos Ph. D., an international expert in linguistics, Athens, Greece -

-'New connections which have never been seen that way'.

-Erika Simon Ph.D. Germany

Francesco Carotta Jesus was Caesar. On the Julian Origin of Christianity ISBN 90 5911 396 9 Sales: UK: sales@gazellebooks.com USA: adam@isbs.com or info@uitgeverijaspekt.nl L 24,95, USD 44,95, Euro 32

SOURCE Aspekt Publishers



well apparently they know nothing about the 2nd 1/2 of the 1st century.. just go look up Polycarp the Disciple of John of Patmos and Polycrates the disciple of Polycarp.

Polycarp was a early disciple. Because it is recorded by historians in 90 ad for refusing not to celebrate Passover he was put on a stake with wood and straw around him and set on fire. when this fire started as h cried out to Yahweh his belly burst I believe spreading water all over putting the fire out and they could not kill him by fire.. just like why John was sent to Patmos because they trie dipping him in boiling oil and he was not harmed.. that's why he was banished to Patmos. Just do a search for Polycarp and you will see where they waisted their time


hardly compelling evidence... sounds like your just typing more myths...
the Guy must have had a strange Anatomy too!laugh

mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/02/13 10:29 AM




SOESTERBERG, The Netherlands, February 8 /PRNewswire/ --
http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/jesus-was-caesar-new-book-by-philosopher-and-linguist-francesco-carotta-claims-that-the-real-identity-of-jesus-christ-has-been-discovered-154575075.html
- Carotta: 'Everything of the Story of Jesus can be Found in the Biography of Caesar.'

The Italian-German linguist and philosopher Francesco Carotta proves in his book Jesus was Caesar that the story of Jesus Christ has its origin in Roman sources. In more than fifteen years of investigation Carotta has found the traces which lead to the Julian origin of Christianity. He concludes that the story of Jesus is based on the narrative of the life of Julius Caesar.

Carotta: ''The Gospel proves to be the history of the Roman Civil war, a 'mis-telling' of the life of Caesar-from the Rubicon to his assassination-mutated into the narrative of Jesus, from the Jordan to his crucifixion. Jesus is a true historical figure, he lived as Gaius Julius Caesar, and ressurected as Divus Julius.''

The cult surrounding Jesus Christ, son of God and originator of Christianity appeared during the second century. Early historians, however, never mentioned Jesus and even until now there has been no actual proof of his existence. Julius Caesar, son of Venus and founder of the Roman Empire, was elevated to the status of Imperial God, Divus Julius, after his violent death. The cult that surrounded him dissolved as Christianity surfaced.

Carotta's new evidence leads to such an overwhelming amount of similarities between the biography of Caesar and the story of Jesus that coincidence can be ruled out.

- Both Caesar and Jesus start their rising careers in neighboring states in the north: Gallia and Galilee.

- Both have to cross a fateful river: the Rubicon and the Jordan. Once across the rivers, they both come across a patron/rival: Pompeius and John the Baptist, and their first followers: Antonius and Curio on the one hand and Peter and Andrew on the other.

- Both are continually on the move, finally arriving at the capital, Rome and Jerusalem, where they at first triumph, yet subsequently undergo their passion.

- Both have good relationships with women and have a special relationship with one particular woman, Caesar with Cleopatra and Jesus with Magdalene.

- Both have encounters at night, Caesar with Nicomedes of Bithynia, Jesus with Nicodemus of Bethany.

- Both have an affinity to ordinary people-and both run afoul of the highest authorities: Caesar with the Senate, Jesus with the Sanhedrin.

- Both are contentious characters, but show praiseworthy clemency as well: the clementia Caesaris and Jesus' Love-thy-enemy.

- Both have a traitor: Brutus and Judas. And an assassin who at first gets away: the other Brutus and Barabbas. And one who washes his hands of it: Lepidus and Pilate.

- Both are accused of making themselves kings: King of the Romans and King of the Jews. Both are dressed in red royal robes and wear a crown on their heads: a laurel wreath and a crown of thorns.

- Both get killed: Caesar is stabbed with daggers, Jesus is crucified, but with a stab wound in his side.

- Jesus as well as Caesar hang on a cross. For a reconstruction of the crucifixion of Caesar, see:

http://www.carotta.de/subseite/texte/jwc_e/crux.html#images

- Both die on the same respective dates of the year: Caesar on the Ides (15 th) of March, Jesus on the 15 th of Nisan.

- Both are deified posthumously: as Divus Iulius and as Jesus Christ.

- Caesar and Jesus also use the same words, e.g.: Caesar's famous Latin 'Veni, vidi, vici'-I came, I saw, I conquered-is in the Gospel transmitted into: 'I came, washed and saw', whereby Greek enipsa, 'I washed', replaces enikisa, 'I conquered'.

Prominent European scholars and intellectuals are jubilant:

'This report is of the same order of importance as the scientific discoveries of Darwin and Galileo. - Paul Cliteur, Ph. D., University of Leiden, The Netherlands -

'Reading Francesco Carotta's book has fascinated me, ...leading the mind of the reader step by step to the solution of an obscure intrigue. This voyage was like a liberating and exhilarating breath of fresh air.' -Fotis Kavoukopoulos Ph. D., an international expert in linguistics, Athens, Greece -

-'New connections which have never been seen that way'.

-Erika Simon Ph.D. Germany

Francesco Carotta Jesus was Caesar. On the Julian Origin of Christianity ISBN 90 5911 396 9 Sales: UK: sales@gazellebooks.com USA: adam@isbs.com or info@uitgeverijaspekt.nl L 24,95, USD 44,95, Euro 32

SOURCE Aspekt Publishers



well apparently they know nothing about the 2nd 1/2 of the 1st century.. just go look up Polycarp the Disciple of John of Patmos and Polycrates the disciple of Polycarp.

Polycarp was a early disciple. Because it is recorded by historians in 90 ad for refusing not to celebrate Passover he was put on a stake with wood and straw around him and set on fire. when this fire started as h cried out to Yahweh his belly burst I believe spreading water all over putting the fire out and they could not kill him by fire.. just like why John was sent to Patmos because they trie dipping him in boiling oil and he was not harmed.. that's why he was banished to Patmos. Just do a search for Polycarp and you will see where they waisted their time


hardly compelling evidence... sounds like your just typing more myths...
the Guy must have had a strange Anatomy too!laugh


i was trying to see how it relates to the article, but i just don't see it...huh

no photo
Sat 08/03/13 09:37 AM
Bogus! No mention of the Star of Bethlehem.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 08/03/13 06:14 PM





SOESTERBERG, The Netherlands, February 8 /PRNewswire/ --
http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/jesus-was-caesar-new-book-by-philosopher-and-linguist-francesco-carotta-claims-that-the-real-identity-of-jesus-christ-has-been-discovered-154575075.html
- Carotta: 'Everything of the Story of Jesus can be Found in the Biography of Caesar.'

The Italian-German linguist and philosopher Francesco Carotta proves in his book Jesus was Caesar that the story of Jesus Christ has its origin in Roman sources. In more than fifteen years of investigation Carotta has found the traces which lead to the Julian origin of Christianity. He concludes that the story of Jesus is based on the narrative of the life of Julius Caesar.

Carotta: ''The Gospel proves to be the history of the Roman Civil war, a 'mis-telling' of the life of Caesar-from the Rubicon to his assassination-mutated into the narrative of Jesus, from the Jordan to his crucifixion. Jesus is a true historical figure, he lived as Gaius Julius Caesar, and ressurected as Divus Julius.''

The cult surrounding Jesus Christ, son of God and originator of Christianity appeared during the second century. Early historians, however, never mentioned Jesus and even until now there has been no actual proof of his existence. Julius Caesar, son of Venus and founder of the Roman Empire, was elevated to the status of Imperial God, Divus Julius, after his violent death. The cult that surrounded him dissolved as Christianity surfaced.

Carotta's new evidence leads to such an overwhelming amount of similarities between the biography of Caesar and the story of Jesus that coincidence can be ruled out.

- Both Caesar and Jesus start their rising careers in neighboring states in the north: Gallia and Galilee.

- Both have to cross a fateful river: the Rubicon and the Jordan. Once across the rivers, they both come across a patron/rival: Pompeius and John the Baptist, and their first followers: Antonius and Curio on the one hand and Peter and Andrew on the other.

- Both are continually on the move, finally arriving at the capital, Rome and Jerusalem, where they at first triumph, yet subsequently undergo their passion.

- Both have good relationships with women and have a special relationship with one particular woman, Caesar with Cleopatra and Jesus with Magdalene.

- Both have encounters at night, Caesar with Nicomedes of Bithynia, Jesus with Nicodemus of Bethany.

- Both have an affinity to ordinary people-and both run afoul of the highest authorities: Caesar with the Senate, Jesus with the Sanhedrin.

- Both are contentious characters, but show praiseworthy clemency as well: the clementia Caesaris and Jesus' Love-thy-enemy.

- Both have a traitor: Brutus and Judas. And an assassin who at first gets away: the other Brutus and Barabbas. And one who washes his hands of it: Lepidus and Pilate.

- Both are accused of making themselves kings: King of the Romans and King of the Jews. Both are dressed in red royal robes and wear a crown on their heads: a laurel wreath and a crown of thorns.

- Both get killed: Caesar is stabbed with daggers, Jesus is crucified, but with a stab wound in his side.

- Jesus as well as Caesar hang on a cross. For a reconstruction of the crucifixion of Caesar, see:

http://www.carotta.de/subseite/texte/jwc_e/crux.html#images

- Both die on the same respective dates of the year: Caesar on the Ides (15 th) of March, Jesus on the 15 th of Nisan.

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well apparently they know nothing about the 2nd 1/2 of the 1st century.. just go look up Polycarp the Disciple of John of Patmos and Polycrates the disciple of Polycarp.

Polycarp was a early disciple. Because it is recorded by historians in 90 ad for refusing not to celebrate Passover he was put on a stake with wood and straw around him and set on fire. when this fire started as h cried out to Yahweh his belly burst I believe spreading water all over putting the fire out and they could not kill him by fire.. just like why John was sent to Patmos because they trie dipping him in boiling oil and he was not harmed.. that's why he was banished to Patmos. Just do a search for Polycarp and you will see where they waisted their time


hardly compelling evidence... sounds like your just typing more myths...
the Guy must have had a strange Anatomy too!laugh


i was trying to see how it relates to the article, but i just don't see it...huh


more sources about Yahshua. the jews it even says in the scriptures did thier best to cover up Yahshua's existance. thier are books written about Polycarp.. look it up. why is it relevent because he does not even mention Polycarp and he is well known in the 1st and start of the 2nd century.. thats why.. just search for polycarp and see what u come up with

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Sat 08/03/13 06:18 PM
just a fragment what was recorded about Polycarp

Polycarp (Greek: Πολύκαρπος Polýkarpos; AD 69–155) was a 2nd-century Christian bishop of Smyrna.[1] According to the Martyrdom of Polycarp he died a martyr, bound and burned at the stake, then stabbed when the fire failed to touch him.[2] Polycarp is regarded as a saint in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches.

It is recorded by Irenaeus, who heard him speak in his youth, and by Tertullian,[3] that he had been a disciple of John the Apostle.[4][5] Saint Jerome wrote that Polycarp was a disciple of John and that John had ordained him bishop of Smyrna.

The early tradition that expanded upon the Martyrdom to link Polycarp in competition and contrast with John the Apostle who, though many people had tried to kill him, was not martyred but died of old age after being exiled to the island of Patmos, is embodied in the Coptic language fragmentary papyri (the "Harris fragments") dating to the 3rd to 6th centuries.[6] Frederick Weidmann, their editor, interprets the "Harris fragments" as Smyrnan hagiography addressing Smyrna-Ephesus church rivalries, which "develops the association of Polycarp and John to a degree unwitnessed, so far as we know, either before or since".[7] The fragments echo the Martyrology, and diverge from it.

With Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp is regarded as one of three chief Apostolic Fathers. The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons.

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Mon 08/05/13 10:22 AM

just a fragment what was recorded about Polycarp

Polycarp (Greek: Πολύκαρπος Polýkarpos; AD 69–155) was a 2nd-century Christian bishop of Smyrna.[1] According to the Martyrdom of Polycarp he died a martyr, bound and burned at the stake, then stabbed when the fire failed to touch him.[2] Polycarp is regarded as a saint in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches.

It is recorded by Irenaeus, who heard him speak in his youth, and by Tertullian,[3] that he had been a disciple of John the Apostle.[4][5] Saint Jerome wrote that Polycarp was a disciple of John and that John had ordained him bishop of Smyrna.

The early tradition that expanded upon the Martyrdom to link Polycarp in competition and contrast with John the Apostle who, though many people had tried to kill him, was not martyred but died of old age after being exiled to the island of Patmos, is embodied in the Coptic language fragmentary papyri (the "Harris fragments") dating to the 3rd to 6th centuries.[6] Frederick Weidmann, their editor, interprets the "Harris fragments" as Smyrnan hagiography addressing Smyrna-Ephesus church rivalries, which "develops the association of Polycarp and John to a degree unwitnessed, so far as we know, either before or since".[7] The fragments echo the Martyrology, and diverge from it.

With Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp is regarded as one of three chief Apostolic Fathers. The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons.



i'm not sure i follow ya here... how does this relate to the article?

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Mon 08/05/13 06:46 PM


just a fragment what was recorded about Polycarp

Polycarp (Greek: Πολύκαρπος Polýkarpos; AD 69–155) was a 2nd-century Christian bishop of Smyrna.[1] According to the Martyrdom of Polycarp he died a martyr, bound and burned at the stake, then stabbed when the fire failed to touch him.[2] Polycarp is regarded as a saint in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches.

It is recorded by Irenaeus, who heard him speak in his youth, and by Tertullian,[3] that he had been a disciple of John the Apostle.[4][5] Saint Jerome wrote that Polycarp was a disciple of John and that John had ordained him bishop of Smyrna.

The early tradition that expanded upon the Martyrdom to link Polycarp in competition and contrast with John the Apostle who, though many people had tried to kill him, was not martyred but died of old age after being exiled to the island of Patmos, is embodied in the Coptic language fragmentary papyri (the "Harris fragments") dating to the 3rd to 6th centuries.[6] Frederick Weidmann, their editor, interprets the "Harris fragments" as Smyrnan hagiography addressing Smyrna-Ephesus church rivalries, which "develops the association of Polycarp and John to a degree unwitnessed, so far as we know, either before or since".[7] The fragments echo the Martyrology, and diverge from it.

With Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp is regarded as one of three chief Apostolic Fathers. The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons.



i'm not sure i follow ya here... how does this relate to the article?



Polycarp was a disciple of John and was ordain a Bishop by him. He was very well respected and know in the 1st and 2nd centuries and his historians recorded what he said about what John told him about Yahshua in the 1st century. He even is the known writer to the

"The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons."


Proof that Juliuos ceaser was not Yahshua and it is not about him as the writer try to say.. he does not show you this.. anyone who spent that muc time had to know about these writings that survived and he ignored them for his own cause.. Thats why

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Tue 08/06/13 09:00 AM



just a fragment what was recorded about Polycarp

Polycarp (Greek: Πολύκαρπος Polýkarpos; AD 69–155) was a 2nd-century Christian bishop of Smyrna.[1] According to the Martyrdom of Polycarp he died a martyr, bound and burned at the stake, then stabbed when the fire failed to touch him.[2] Polycarp is regarded as a saint in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches.

It is recorded by Irenaeus, who heard him speak in his youth, and by Tertullian,[3] that he had been a disciple of John the Apostle.[4][5] Saint Jerome wrote that Polycarp was a disciple of John and that John had ordained him bishop of Smyrna.

The early tradition that expanded upon the Martyrdom to link Polycarp in competition and contrast with John the Apostle who, though many people had tried to kill him, was not martyred but died of old age after being exiled to the island of Patmos, is embodied in the Coptic language fragmentary papyri (the "Harris fragments") dating to the 3rd to 6th centuries.[6] Frederick Weidmann, their editor, interprets the "Harris fragments" as Smyrnan hagiography addressing Smyrna-Ephesus church rivalries, which "develops the association of Polycarp and John to a degree unwitnessed, so far as we know, either before or since".[7] The fragments echo the Martyrology, and diverge from it.

With Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp is regarded as one of three chief Apostolic Fathers. The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons.



i'm not sure i follow ya here... how does this relate to the article?



Polycarp was a disciple of John and was ordain a Bishop by him. He was very well respected and know in the 1st and 2nd centuries and his historians recorded what he said about what John told him about Yahshua in the 1st century. He even is the known writer to the

"The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons."


Proof that Juliuos ceaser was not Yahshua and it is not about him as the writer try to say.. he does not show you this.. anyone who spent that muc time had to know about these writings that survived and he ignored them for his own cause.. Thats why



i can't see your proof there... some fictional writing vrs historical documents...

this guy just connected a few dots to sell a book, not much more than that... there is no proof to either way that Jesus really even existed in the first place...

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Tue 08/06/13 01:12 PM




just a fragment what was recorded about Polycarp

Polycarp (Greek: Πολύκαρπος Polýkarpos; AD 69–155) was a 2nd-century Christian bishop of Smyrna.[1] According to the Martyrdom of Polycarp he died a martyr, bound and burned at the stake, then stabbed when the fire failed to touch him.[2] Polycarp is regarded as a saint in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches.

It is recorded by Irenaeus, who heard him speak in his youth, and by Tertullian,[3] that he had been a disciple of John the Apostle.[4][5] Saint Jerome wrote that Polycarp was a disciple of John and that John had ordained him bishop of Smyrna.

The early tradition that expanded upon the Martyrdom to link Polycarp in competition and contrast with John the Apostle who, though many people had tried to kill him, was not martyred but died of old age after being exiled to the island of Patmos, is embodied in the Coptic language fragmentary papyri (the "Harris fragments") dating to the 3rd to 6th centuries.[6] Frederick Weidmann, their editor, interprets the "Harris fragments" as Smyrnan hagiography addressing Smyrna-Ephesus church rivalries, which "develops the association of Polycarp and John to a degree unwitnessed, so far as we know, either before or since".[7] The fragments echo the Martyrology, and diverge from it.

With Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp is regarded as one of three chief Apostolic Fathers. The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons.



i'm not sure i follow ya here... how does this relate to the article?



Polycarp was a disciple of John and was ordain a Bishop by him. He was very well respected and know in the 1st and 2nd centuries and his historians recorded what he said about what John told him about Yahshua in the 1st century. He even is the known writer to the

"The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons."


Proof that Juliuos ceaser was not Yahshua and it is not about him as the writer try to say.. he does not show you this.. anyone who spent that muc time had to know about these writings that survived and he ignored them for his own cause.. Thats why



i can't see your proof there... some fictional writing vrs historical documents...

this guy just connected a few dots to sell a book, not much more than that... there is no proof to either way that Jesus really even existed in the first place...


My understanding is thier are historical documents about Polycarp. about how he kept passover and the Torah which the roman emporer wanted to cease but it did not basically untill the Council of Nicea where constantine decided what and how the fath would be reserved and it is still here today what the churches follow from an edict a pagan decided. Polycarp has lots of books written about him he was as well known as the Apostles themselves

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