Topic: The Truthseeker: Obama's arrest, Bush's trial
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 07/01/13 06:38 AM

Published on Jun 28, 2013

"We'll get Bush in the US" the world's top war crimes prosecutor tells The Truthseeker after Dubya's deputies warn him against travel, lawyers file for Obama's arrest tomorrow when he hits South Africa, huge secret wars in America's name being masked from the folks funding them.

Seek truth from facts with Yousha Tayob of the Muslim Lawyers Association, leading war crimes prosecutor Francis Boyle, Senior Staff Attorney Katherine Gallagher of New York's Center for Constitutional Rights which stopped Bush's first trip after his waterboarding admission, Marjorie Cohn, author of Cowboy Republic: Six Ways the Bush Gang Has Defied the Law, and former NSA intelligence officer Scott Rickard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrTeBDetcfw&feature=youtu.be

adj4u's photo
Mon 07/01/13 09:49 AM



one can hope

then one can hope it does not lead to a world war with the U S being
the nazi Germany part

it does seem that the U S has been auditioning for the part

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 07/01/13 10:54 AM
Under "INTERNATIONAL INDICTMENT RULES", an arrest warrant for Bush/Obama can ONLY be issued if there is "DANGER".... Belief, provable, that the individual/people in question could/would repeat the crime (s).......

There are three (3) circumstances under International Law of which 1 or more "must" be present....
1. DANGER that the crime could/would be repeated...
2. DANGER the person/people in question could/would become fugitives (s)...
3. DANGER The person/people would/could destroy or tamper with evidence...

You think Bush/Obama is not aware of this
CONSTITUTIONALLY, Bush/Obama cannot hold office again......whats the problem?


And arresting Obama in South-Africa as sitting POTUS would be an Act of War!
Only the US can prosecute either Obama or Bush!

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 07/01/13 11:28 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 07/01/13 11:30 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunity_from_prosecution_(international_law)

Immunity from prosecution is a doctrine of international law that allows an accused to avoid prosecution for criminal offences. Immunities are of two types. The first is functional immunity, or immunity ratione materiae. This is an immunity granted to people who perform certain functions of state. The second is personal immunity, or immunity ratione personae. This is an immunity granted to certain officials because of the office they hold, rather than in relation to the act they have committed.

This type of immunity arises from customary international law and treaty law and confers immunities on those performing acts of state (usually a foreign official). Any person who in performing an act of state commits a criminal offence is immune from prosecution. This is so even after the person ceases to perform acts of state. Thus it is a type of immunity limited in the acts to which it attaches (acts of state) but will only end if the state itself ceases to exist. This type of immunity is based on respect for sovereign equality and state dignity.

The offices usually recognised as attracting this immunity are Head of State or Head of Government, senior cabinet members, Foreign Minister, and Minister for Defence: see the Arrest Warrant Case, Pinochet Case (R v Bow Street Magistrates; ex parte Pinochet Ugarte (No 3) 1 AC 147, House of Lords). Such officers are immune from prosecution for everything they do during their time in office. For example, an English court held that a warrant could not be issued for the arrest of Robert Mugabe on charges of international crimes on the basis that he was a presently serving Head of State at the time the proceedings were brought: Mugabe, reported at (2004) 53 ICLQ 789. Other examples are the attempts to prosecute Fidel Castro in Spain and Jiang Zemin in the USA.

OOps looks like they can't touch him under international Law.

The US has not ceased to be the US. Under this treaty he cannot be touched unless the US ceases to exist. Period.


Just time for a little reminder!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 07/01/13 12:33 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunity_from_prosecution_(international_law)

Immunity from prosecution is a doctrine of international law that allows an accused to avoid prosecution for criminal offences. Immunities are of two types. The first is functional immunity, or immunity ratione materiae. This is an immunity granted to people who perform certain functions of state. The second is personal immunity, or immunity ratione personae. This is an immunity granted to certain officials because of the office they hold, rather than in relation to the act they have committed.

This type of immunity arises from customary international law and treaty law and confers immunities on those performing acts of state (usually a foreign official). Any person who in performing an act of state commits a criminal offence is immune from prosecution. This is so even after the person ceases to perform acts of state. Thus it is a type of immunity limited in the acts to which it attaches (acts of state) but will only end if the state itself ceases to exist. This type of immunity is based on respect for sovereign equality and state dignity.

The offices usually recognised as attracting this immunity are Head of State or Head of Government, senior cabinet members, Foreign Minister, and Minister for Defence: see the Arrest Warrant Case, Pinochet Case (R v Bow Street Magistrates; ex parte Pinochet Ugarte (No 3) 1 AC 147, House of Lords). Such officers are immune from prosecution for everything they do during their time in office. For example, an English court held that a warrant could not be issued for the arrest of Robert Mugabe on charges of international crimes on the basis that he was a presently serving Head of State at the time the proceedings were brought: Mugabe, reported at (2004) 53 ICLQ 789. Other examples are the attempts to prosecute Fidel Castro in Spain and Jiang Zemin in the USA.

OOps looks like they can't touch him under international Law.

The US has not ceased to be the US. Under this treaty he cannot be touched unless the US ceases to exist. Period.


Just time for a little reminder!


They can at whim distort the constitution to suit themselves..... perhaps they wouldn't like the shoe so well if it were on the other foot?