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Topic: Kill shot?
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Mon 06/03/13 09:45 AM

"an innocent kid"

laugh The hyperbole is painful.



He may have well been an innocent kid. You don't know that.
The FBI could have made up that story of his confession just to justify killing him in cold blood. I doubt if he pulled a knife on armed FBI agents. I doubt he confessed to anything.

Innocent until proven guilty is the law. Killing a suspect while you are questioning him is tyranny.


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Mon 06/03/13 09:47 AM



"an innocent kid"

laugh The hyperbole is painful.


Yeah, who cares if the law says "innocent till proven guilty" slaphead


But the FBI and Law Enforcement are guilty until proven innocent?


They are highly suspect. So they too should be treated like suspects. Perhaps someone will kill them while questioning them. laugh

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Mon 06/03/13 09:49 AM




"an innocent kid"

laugh The hyperbole is painful.


Yeah, who cares if the law says "innocent till proven guilty" slaphead


But the FBI and Law Enforcement are guilty until proven innocent?


They are highly suspect. So they too should be treated like suspects. Perhaps someone will kill them while questioning them. laugh


You are so mean. tongue2

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Mon 06/03/13 09:52 AM
I'm not mean. But since the new policy is killing suspects while questioning them, then maybe they should question the FBI guys involved. To claim that now they are not sure who shot the guy is absurd. Not sure? How can they be not sure? What did the guy do, hide the weapon and say "I didn't do it!" What happen to the tapes? Didn't they tape the incident? Did the tapes mysteriously disappear?

I want facts.


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Mon 06/03/13 09:54 AM
Who exactly is policing the police? Who is policing the FBI?


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Mon 06/03/13 09:58 AM
So far, Todashev has received “no official explanation” of his son’s death from the US side. He said he was only told there is an ongoing investigation “inside the FBI.”

Todashev called the earlier claims that Ibragim was shot attempting to attack an FBI agent “absurd,” saying four or five police and FBI officers could have easily handled such an attack without needing to kill his son.

“Maybe my son knew something, some information the police did not want to be made public. Maybe they wanted to silence my son,” Todashev’s father said.

Abdulbaki Todashev said his main aim now is to go to the US and get his son’s body.

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Mon 06/03/13 10:01 AM
Being a witness in the U.S. is "not safe."

Ibragim Todashev was killed just two days before he was due to fly back home to Russia, Shevchenko said as he pointed to a “striking chain of coincidences” in the US.

Two “key witnesses” of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s arrest have also died recently, Shevchenko said, referring to the “accidental” death of members of the FBI’s elite counterterrorism unit, who fell a “significant distance” from a helicopter last Thursday.

Lawyer Zaurbek Sadakhanov of the Moscow Interterritorial Bar Association said he fully believes this is a case of an extrajudicial execution.

Sadakhanov questioned why international human rights organizations, as well as Russian rights activists, have ignored the shooting.

He also urged Todashev’s friend Khusen Harlamov to return to Russia as “being a witness in the US is not safe.”

This is not the first time experts have questioned whether the FBI acted lawfully when shooting at Ibragim Todashev after he allegedly attacked an officer, with what some called “a use of excessive force.”

But a recent report revealed Todashev was completely unarmed when the FBI agent opened fire, raising questions over why lethal force was deemed necessary to subdue the strongly outnumbered man.

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Mon 06/03/13 10:04 AM
shocked shocked shocked


Investigative journalist and former Los Angeles police officer, Mike Ruppert offered his professional opinion to RT, finding two major issues with the official story (given that he himself had been in a similar predicament as an officer years before the incident). Firstly, the standard operating procedures were out the window; and secondly, the FBI itself appears to have set the situation up.

“There’s an escalation-of-force scale which was obviously not followed in this case”, he said, referring to the officers’ decision to draw firearms. “But my second huge problem with the law enforcement story is he (Todashev) was supposed to be signing a confession to a triple murder…I don’t care even if you are the FBI – which doesn’t have a good reputation – you have somebody who’s about to sign a confession, you have him in a jail house, in a secure setting, and the police officers around him are not armed because he’s in a secure setting. For the FBI, this was, at best, horribly mishandled. But it sounds to me very much like they went there with the intent to provoke him and stage a shooting,” Ruppert went on, recounting a similar shooting from decades ago.

And the implication of this, in Ruppert’s words, is that America is landing itself in a Stalinist, or Nazi, system of silencing people.

“If we go back to [those] days, these are executions… dead men tell no tales… and I will speak as an American citizen. My country is behaving like a totalitarian state run amok."

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Mon 06/03/13 10:04 AM

Who exactly is policing the police? Who is policing the FBI?


Good Question.

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Mon 06/03/13 10:11 AM
He was not armed. He appears to have been shot 7 times.



http://my.firedoglake.com/efbeall/2013/05/30/sources-admit-fbi-killed-unarmed-tsarnaev-acquaintance/

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Sun 07/07/13 06:47 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 07/07/13 06:52 PM


"an innocent kid"

laugh The hyperbole is painful.



He may have well been an innocent kid. You don't know that.



Yeah, who cares if the law says "innocent till proven guilty"



Both of you missed my point. Note the key word: hyperbole-the adjective employed (innocent) to create an impression, in this case, a sense of injustice. So, if it is an unknown quantity as you state, why use it in the first place? Perhaps I should refrain from textual criticism on this site, it is rarely understood.


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Mon 07/08/13 05:15 AM



Nice shot.:banana:


The happy banana? You do realize this whole thing was most likely an assassination of an innocent kid to make it look like the FBI was on top in fighting terrorism....right?

You do realize that he was complicit in at least the bombing if not other things. An innocent kid?. I doubt that.

You do realize that our trillion dollar spy on everyone programs failed to stop this attack?

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Mon 07/08/13 06:47 AM
it was jest plain Moider!grumble

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