On April 19, 1993, in Waco Texas the U.S. government incinerated 86 of it's own citizens for the crime of exercising their constitutional rights of freedom of religion, right to bear arms, and freedom of speech. Timothy McVeigh, who had been at the scene to witness some of the events during the preceding 50 day standoff with U.S. troops, witnessed the inferno erupt on television. Two years later to the day, on April 19, 1995, the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City was destroyed by a bomb blast. McVeigh was arrested a short time later after being pulled over for driving a car with no license plate and possession of an unlicensed firearm. Several days later he was identified by witnesses as one of two people seen getting out of a Ryder rental truck that was parked in front just before the blast. The other suspect was never identified, and his existence was denied by the government even though he was caught on videotape.

Seven important facts:

In April 1995, the Omnibus Counter Terrorism Bill was struggling to get through the US Congress. After the OKC Bombing occurred, the tragedy looked as though it had been tailor-made to rally public support for the tyrannical bill.
The morning of the bombing, the ATF office located inside the Murrah building was empty, unheard of at 9 AM on a weekday.
Oklahoma Congressman Ernest Istook told a victim in a taped conversation in 1995 that the OKC bombing was a failed a national security operation that used an FBI provocateur associated with a militia.
The ATF was already putting out a story that the Murrah Building was bombed "because of Waco" only a few hours after the actual blast and before Tim McVeigh was even arrested.
An unexploded bomb was found attached to a gas line inside the building, and a FEMA memo reports at least two additional bombs were found in the Murrah Building. Joe Harp, based on his military explosives experience, identified the additional bombs he saw removed from the building as being military in nature.
General Benton K. Partin, USAF (Ret.) stated in his OKC Bombing report to US Congress that "The bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, Oklahoma City, was not caused solely by the truck bomb. The major factor in its destruction appears to have been detonation of explosives carefully placed at four critical junctures on supporting columns within the building."
Prior to the OKC bombing US Senator Arlan Specter as well as Clinton's NSC director Anthony Lake had been advocating federal national security operations to stop militias in America. Anthony Lake gave a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in the Fall of 1994 in which he said the chief cornerstone of government policy was to "pit our society against militias".

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THE GOVERNMENT SAID THE ATTACK WAS BECAUSE OF WACO EVEN BEFORE MCVEIGH WAS A SUSPECT

Do you seriously believe that Timothy McVeigh, a supposed rarely employed drifter, virtually broke and alone as the government would have us believe, was able to plan, assemble a sophisticated bomb, and pull off the largest terror attack on American soil up to that time? If one looks at the details of this, one would have to conclude McVeigh was part of a very large conspiracy, involving CIA sponsored domestic and Middle Eastern helpers. The F.B.I.'s refusal to follow up and ignore so many leads went beyond its ordinary incompetence and reeked of treason. McVeigh attorney Stephen Jones, who worked on this case for years, believed McVeigh was just a part of a greater conspiracy. The last thing McVeigh would do is turn over information on co-conspiritors to those he despised.

Also, McVeigh wanted himself seen as someone who fired the first shot that would start a revolution against a government capable of atrocities such as Ruby Ridge and Waco. He wanted to take full credit for the bombing, and did not want to share it with anyone. In his view, this would make him a mythic figure, a martyr for the revolution. The Murrah Building in Oklahoma City was where all of the records of the Waco Seige were being kept. McVeigh was seen with several unidentified individuals, many with middle eastern features in the weeks leading up to the bombing. At the trial, these facts were NOT allowed in as evidence. Also at his trial his sister read a letter from McVeigh to the grand jury in which he told her he was going into the Special Forces Covert Tactical Unit.

Survivor Jane Graham tells of three very suspicious men she saw in the Murrah Building Garage the week prior to the bombing, and was shocked by the FBI's obvious disinterest in the matter. Virgil Steele, an elevator inspector at the scene also saw two additional bombs being removed from the building. Reports of additional bombs were confirmed by the OKC fire department. They used trained explosives sniffing dogs to locate those additional bombs, so not only did the devices found in the Murrah Building have to look enough like real bombs to fool the bomb squad, they had to SMELL LIKE REAL EXPLOSIVES TO THE BOMB SNIFFING DOGS. A Video of Tim McVeigh from a security camera at a McDonald's in Junction City, along with statements from the Ryder employees who rented the truck, can be seen as proof that McVeigh did not rent the Ryder Truck used in the bombing. McVeigh had been filmed by the security camera at the McDonald's just minutes before the time stamped on the rental agreement, wearing clothes that did not match either of the men seen at the truck rental center.

There is also no plausible explanation of how he traveled the mile and a quarter from McDonald's to the rental agency, carless and alone, without getting soaked in the rain. The three people interviewed agreed John Does 1 and 2 were dry. According to Stephen Jones, McVeigh's first attorney, who had seen the interview transcripts, it took 44 days for the FBI to convince the car rental agency owner that John Doe 1 was Timothy McVeigh. And in the end they did not dare put him on the witness stand, for fear of what might happen under cross examination. This might explain why the initial description of John Doe I circulated by the FBI referred to a man with "pock-marked skin, fairly stocky" who stood about 5'10", whereas McVeigh was 6' 3" tall, thin as a rail (160 lbs) and had a smooth complexion. The FBI and US Army used national security operation grounds to threaten Army recruiters with court martial if they described publicly the John Doe provocateurs the recruiters had seen with McVeigh in the Murrah building.

Twenty miles away from the blast, seismographs at the University of Oklahoma recorded not one, but two explosive "events" just after 9:00 a.m. on April 19 1995, within ten seconds of each other. The Omniplex Science Center in Oklahoma City recorded the same dual disturbance, the second one stronger than the first. Dr. Charles Mankin, director of the University of Oklahoma Geological Survey, held a press conference shortly after the bombing and told an assembly of journalists that the seismograph readings CLEARLY indicated TWO explosions. Even the news media reported two bomb blasts initially, but later changed their story.
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There is a link between the Murrah bombing and the events of 9-11.

The 1993 WTC bombing materials had been purchased with the credit card of a US Muslim and an FBI provocateur named Melvin Lattimore. Melvin Lattimore was seen by 4 witnesses in McVeigh's car at the OKC Travelers Aid office adjacent to the Murrah federal building just ONE DAY before the OKC bombing. Six FBI agents spent 9 months browbeating the 4 witnesses, trying to make them change their story about seeing Lattimore at the Travelers Aid. Lattimore was the roommate of the 20th 9/11 hijacker Zacarias Moussaoui while he attended the Airman flight school in Norman Oklahoma in 2000 and 2001. Lattimore was also the roomate of 9/11 hijackers Al Hazmi and Al Shehhi in Norman Oklahoma. Retired Air Force General Benton K. Partin informed AG Ashcroft in August 2001 of the Travelers Aid story in writing and in person. Yet, not surprisingly, nothing was done by Ashcroft about Lattimore.

There is the strong likelihood of extensive drugging and mind control.

It was reported that McVeigh recieved some twelve or more visits by Dr. Louis Jolyon West, the UCLA mind control expert for the CIA who pronounced Jack Ruby insane after he suggested a conspiracy in the JFK assassination. He also was the government psychiatrist who handled Sirhan Sirhan while he awaited trial. Jolly West was infamous for his early use of LSD on unsuspecting victims. He was the head of the CIA's mind-control program known as MKULTRA, and was a pioneer of electronic brain experimentation. With the numerous sightings of the John Does with middle eastern features along with the known CIA links to middle eastern terrorist organizations, the statements of explosive experts that the truck bomb alone could not have possibly caused the extensive damage that we saw, the numerous witnesses claiming that they saw bombs being taken out of the Murrah building after the explosion, the incredible unlikelihood of McVeigh being able to pull this off without help in powerful places, and along with the FBI admitting they witheld evidence, we see here a web of lies and deciet that was never untangled.

The truth about what happened in Oklahoma City will never be told by the government, or their willing accomplice, the mainstream press. Nor will they feel any pressure to. The federal government admitted in May 2001 that critical pieces of evidence and witnesses were not allowed to be presented at his trial, delaying his execution another month. But the execution went ahead anyway.

The murderers of Ruby Ridge and Waco are free and alive, but on June 11, 2001 Timothy McVeigh was put to death by means of lethal injection at the hands of the U.S. government. He was silenced forever, taking the secrets of Oklahoma City with him. Three months to the day later 9-11 came along with the new laws, new wars, and the new terror that followed.

The glaring questions of OKC are now a distant faded memory. And because they got away with this, and 9-11 (so far), your government continues to lie, falsely, accuse and kill in order to maintain the balance of power. And because we are saddled with an electorate that is more concerned with watching the next episode of "Cops" instead of standing up for their constitutional rights, these abuses of power continue to grow.
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I remember how Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Janet Reno wanted to go after militias all over the country so what better way to get people to come down on militias? That's right, a convenient attack by a militia member.

The there was Waco and Ruby Ridge while Clinton wanted to ban semi automatic "assault weapons"


In the 90's and then again now it seem mighty convenient that democrats want to ban and restrict guns so we have these mass shootings.


I also find it odd that while Obama wants to spend billions on a new building for DHS and federal law enforcement (during a sequester I might add) we are having explosives sent to a sheriff, bombs in Boston, ricin sent to Obama and some senator now other bombs have been found elsewhere in the country.



I trust the government like I trust a diamondback not to bite me.

i was hearing reports about two other russians that were busted in Niagara Falls with 4 more pressure cooker bombs in their trunk...

something is fishy in liberalville..

No....that is just me being an ***.

You are the one with the opinions....is there a reason that you aren't a mayor or senator or congressman?

I mean...You seem to have all the answers...and all the rest of us are idiots far beneath you....

Why haven't you corrected all these things that you like to call out as wrong?

Well...put up or shut up.

yea, dumbass, i'm forcing you to read it and believe it... damn right i have opinions, and just like your fellow libs, if they don't agree with yours, you try to start an argument...

put your big boy pants and stop crying about things you have no control over. that just pisses you libs off when you can't control everything, huh...

Writer Gore Vidal had a 3 year on going 'interview' with McVeigh; his icnclusion was that he did not do it. Vidal had a unique perspective and his books on American history are second to none so when he concludes that McVeigh was a patsy, I'd believe him.

i always thought he was to, personally... ruby ridge and waco never seemed right to me either... but McViegh still did his part, patsy or not... the FBI is always looking for people like this, so they can set them up. the muslim that was going to blow up a building in dallas was set up by the FBI in the same way, but they gave him blank explosives...

The OP is absolute nonsense.

Timothy McVeigh admitted to his attorneys that he was the one who blew up the Murrah Federal Building. His intended targets were the federal agents who worked in the building. Everyone else in the building was, in McVeigh's own words, "collateral damage". According to McVeigh's attorney Rob Nigh, McVeigh asked his attorneys to cite "necessity defense" as a just cause for the bombing.

Since the OP appears to be copied from another website and then pasted here, I will give the author of this thread some slack. He isn't necessarily the creator of the nonsense in the O.P.

Suspect caught on video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8GvUktTZJo

he never denied that he did it, but he did say that others were involved, he didn't know who they were... i'm pretty sure the FBI let this happen, because they knew beforehand and helped him set it up... and what about the other 2 unexploded bombs found?

OMG that's irritating...lol

doubt if any other Bombs would have been necessary,not with over 3 metric tons of ANFO and other Explosives going off in the Front of the Building,and with the Pressurewave reflecting back from the surrounding Structures and the Sky!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

(for reference)

not even sure any Bombs in the Building would have survived the Blast without detonating themselves!



besides,didn't the Attack take place at the Anniversary of the Destruction of Mount Carmel?
So it stands to reason that the FBI would speculate the Attack might have something to do with Waco!

And again you are citing unproven claims.

As long as you are "pretty sure"....then...I am probably wrong to second guess your infallible opinion.

Please don't kill me cause I doubted something that you are "pretty sure" of.....how could I be so stupid?

Ohhhh gawd....You must be right......

if you have an opinion about the TOPIC, post it... but since all of your posts today have been your opinion about ME, then they are useless... personally, i don't care what you think about me, it means nothing. but your opinion about the topic could be helpful. I doubt it, but maybe...

Fine....18 years after the Morrow building got the schitt blowed out of it....

We got armchair quarterbacks with theories and hunches posting on a random dating site but pretending like their every thought is gospel.

What is it that you personally know that everyone else is too stupid to figure out?

Enlighten us with the facts you found on the Internet.

well, if you don't think your smart enough to figure it out, then i suggest you do you own research into it and come up with your own ideas... but i see that as an unlikely venture, because it is just easier for you to whine and cry about what others say rather than you having an opinion about anything other than what you think of me...

i hear you whining, but i see no facts you put on the table... why is that?

Certain dates on the calendar are holidays to the functionally paranoid. 04/19 is one of those dates.

By the way, earlier, I should have stated that McVeigh defense attorney Rob Nigh discussed in a newspaper interview what McVeigh's defense team had to deal with. McVeigh did tell his attorneys that he was the one who set off the truck bomb that destroyed the Murrah Federal Building.

The OP doesn't cite facts. It cites allegations coming from an unknown source.

"Also, McVeigh wanted himself seen as someone who fired the first shot that would start a revolution against a government capable of atrocities such as Ruby Ridge and Waco. He wanted to take full credit for the bombing, and did not want to share it with anyone."