Topic: mystery spheres baffle NASA scientists
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Sat 04/06/13 12:21 PM
The riddle of the rotating spheres, that rotate completely, twice a year, on their own axis – baffle NASA scientists"


Man and rock. Stones, which are billions of years old and rotate on their axes, while in a vibration free environment, captured the attention of Mr. John Hund of Pietersburg fifteen years ago. Review previously published reports about Hund's journey to the Gestoptesfontein mine near Ottosdal in the Northern Province where he found a stone just like the one he read about and saw in the Klerksdorp museum.


While playing with the stone on a very flat surface at a restaurant one day, Hund realized it was very well balanced. He took it to the California Space Institute at the University of California to have tests done to determine just how well balanced it was. "It turned out that the balance is so fine, it exceeded the limit of their measuring technology and these are the guys who make gyro-compasses for NASA.


The stone is balanced to within one-hundred thousandths of an inch from absolute perfection," explains Hund. Nobody knows what these stones are. One NASA scientist told Hund that they do not have the technology to create anything as finely balanced as this. He said the only way that either nature or human technology could create something so finely balanced would be in zero gravity.


Here is an extract of Mr. Hund's letter:


The existance of the sphere came to my attention ca 1977 while removing endangered rock engravings from the site where pyrophyllite or "wonderstone", as it is commonly known in the region, is mined on the farm Gestoptefontein (meaning plugged fountain) near the little village of Ottosdal about 110 km from Klerksdorp in South Africa's Northwest Province.


I was intrigued by the form of the spheres, grooves around the middle and the fact that they are as hard as steel, while the material (pyrophyllite) in which they are found, is as soft as limestone with a count of only 3 on the Moh scale.

As you probably know, pyrophyllite (Al2 Si4 O10 (OH)2) is a secondary mineral and the deposits were formed by a process of sedimentation. On Gestoptefontein volcanic activity was responsible for the forming of outcrops varying in height from about 10 to 100 meters. The smooth and relatively soft surface on the slopes were ideal for the prehistoric dwellers (San) to make their engravings of animal and abstract designs.


On Gestoptefontein these outcrops were "swan" into huge pieces by means of twisted steel cables running zig-zag on pulleys for several kilometers. These blocks were then sawn by the same method into more manageable pieces of about 500 x 500 mm. Occasionally the "sawing cable" got stuck on one of the metal spheres embedded in the pyrophyllite.


They vary in size from " 30 – 50 mm in diameter and have perfectly concentric grooves round the center as if they were molded. Inside the hard "shell" some have a spongy substance, while in others it resembles charcoal.


When only partly embedded so that they can be seen on the surface, they are not all spheres, but some are also oblong in form.


According to Professor Andries Bisschoff of the University of Potchefstroom (retired some years ago) they are limonite concretions. Due to the relative scarcity of the spheres and the almost impossibility for outsiders to obtain samples from the mine, his conclusions have not been verified by other scientists.


It is very strange that the grooves are always and only round the center. Mr. Credo Mutwa, a notorious witch doctor from the city of Soweto was brought to the museum by a TV – team some years ago and he as well as some amateur archaeologists believed the spheres to be from outer space. It is also hard for me to believe their theory. The original sphere exhibited in this museum was stolen by a white sangoma (witch – doctor) - not Mr. Mutwa, for its supposedly magic qualities and was never retrieved.


Inquiries were made from all over the world about this phenomenon. Countries include Canada, Switzerland, Denmark, Germany, England, USA, Norway, France and Botswana. Institutions such as the University of South Florida, Miles Price and Associates, the Society for Physic Advancement (S.A), Kokkolan Kaupunchi (Finland), Esotera (Germany) Geologisches Institut der Universiteit Pleicherwall (Germany), the Department of Philosophy UICC (Chicago), Danfoss (Denmark), Illustreret Videnskab (Coppenhagen), Louisiana Geological Survey, Gale Research Company (Michigan) and Search and Research Institute of Florida also made inquiries.


NASA was written, to confirm or deny this in 2000, and a reply was never received. Mr. Hund's letter was removed from the Klerksdorp Museum page, afterwards, when I checked back some time later, and the page re-designed.


And in Sept. 2012, an interesting coincidence found on MARS, by NASA.


NASA's Mars rover Opportunity, still active after all these years, has just discovered a dense accumulation of puzzling little spheroids in a rock outcrop on the Red Planet.
FULL STORY: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/14sep_mysteryspheres/

3 Billion year old sphere


3-Billion Year Old Manufactured Spheroids?

At least 200 have been found, and extracted out of deep rock at the Wonderstone Silver Mine in South Africa, averaging 1-4 inches in dia. and composed of a nickel-steel alloy that doesn't occur naturally.

Wonderstong Silver Mine Spheres

Some have a thin shell about a quarter inch thick, when broken open are filled with a strange spongy material that disintegrates into dust upon contact with air.

A complete mystery according to Roelf Marx curator of the South African Klerksdorp Museum, as the one he has on exhibit rotates on its own, locked in a display case, free of outside vibrations.

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Sat 05/04/13 12:52 PM
Many ancient mines have been discovered in South Africa, several have been examined from either 'tools' found or by radio=carbon testing and have been found to be over 30 thousand years old...seems someone was mining both gold and diamonds there that long ago which implies some very interesting questions about level of society, organization of and uses for the minerals...very intriguing to say the least..

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Sat 05/04/13 05:11 PM
At some point, science and religions are going to have to admit that they know nothing about the history of civilizations that have lived and died on this planet.

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Sat 05/04/13 07:18 PM



3 Billion year old sphere





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVekNsgUqn4

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Sun 05/05/13 10:29 AM




3 Billion year old sphere





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVekNsgUqn4



There are entire catalogues of anomolous and mysterious artifacts from all over the world that are sometimes clearly resembling rather mundane objects of today, such as jewelry chains found embeded in coal , spark-plugs still with tips and threads clearly visible, nails, spikes etc. Since many of the small objects have been found in coal, just imagine how long it takes to form coal and dug from the ground several thousand feet down. Some scientists; geologists and archeologists have remarked that some must come from what is called the Pleistocene Age and older,all the way back to what is currently called Paleozoic, such as the rock slabs with both perfect human footprints inside the prints of a dinosaur, as some were shown on a documentary video hosted by Charleston Heston many years ago, nevermind all the skulls of dinosaurs with what are seen as 'bullet holes' from high speed impacts....
One excellent book of these items is "Forbidden Archeology": The Hidden History Of The Human Race; 914 pages by Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson,1993(full edition). Another is "Ancient Man: A Handbook Of Puzzling Artifacts",by William Corliss; 796 pages;1978.
Other well known anomaly authors/ researchers are Louis Pauwels & Jacques Bergier; Peter Kolosimo: "Not Of This World"; Ivan T. Sanderson; Peter Hanning and many, many more. It is like Robert Bauval once asked in one of his documentaries on anomalous objects found from ancient Egypt, "There is a feeling that so much lies buried of entire civilizations that seem to indicate they were as advanced or more than we are' we have nothing to dig deeper than one mile and we ask ourselves, just how old, really, is human history on Earth?"

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Sun 05/05/13 10:48 AM





3 Billion year old sphere





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVekNsgUqn4



There are entire catalogues of anomolous and mysterious artifacts from all over the world that are sometimes clearly resembling rather mundane objects of today, such as jewelry chains found embeded in coal , spark-plugs still with tips and threads clearly visible, nails, spikes etc. Since many of the small objects have been found in coal, just imagine how long it takes to form coal and dug from the ground several thousand feet down. Some scientists; geologists and archeologists have remarked that some must come from what is called the Pleistocene Age and older,all the way back to what is currently called Paleozoic, such as the rock slabs with both perfect human footprints inside the prints of a dinosaur, as some were shown on a documentary video hosted by Charleston Heston many years ago, nevermind all the skulls of dinosaurs with what are seen as 'bullet holes' from high speed impacts....
One excellent book of these items is "Forbidden Archeology": The Hidden History Of The Human Race; 914 pages by Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson,1993(full edition). Another is "Ancient Man: A Handbook Of Puzzling Artifacts",by William Corliss; 796 pages;1978.
Other well known anomaly authors/ researchers are Louis Pauwels & Jacques Bergier; Peter Kolosimo: "Not Of This World"; Ivan T. Sanderson; Peter Hanning and many, many more. It is like Robert Bauval once asked in one of his documentaries on anomalous objects found from ancient Egypt, "There is a feeling that so much lies buried of entire civilizations that seem to indicate they were as advanced or more than we are' we have nothing to dig deeper than one mile and we ask ourselves, just how old, really, is human history on Earth?"



So the idea that humans or humanoids of some species existed the same time dinosaurs did is not such a stretch.


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Sun 05/05/13 11:02 AM






3 Billion year old sphere





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVekNsgUqn4



There are entire catalogues of anomolous and mysterious artifacts from all over the world that are sometimes clearly resembling rather mundane objects of today, such as jewelry chains found embeded in coal , spark-plugs still with tips and threads clearly visible, nails, spikes etc. Since many of the small objects have been found in coal, just imagine how long it takes to form coal and dug from the ground several thousand feet down. Some scientists; geologists and archeologists have remarked that some must come from what is called the Pleistocene Age and older,all the way back to what is currently called Paleozoic, such as the rock slabs with both perfect human footprints inside the prints of a dinosaur, as some were shown on a documentary video hosted by Charleston Heston many years ago, nevermind all the skulls of dinosaurs with what are seen as 'bullet holes' from high speed impacts....
One excellent book of these items is "Forbidden Archeology": The Hidden History Of The Human Race; 914 pages by Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson,1993(full edition). Another is "Ancient Man: A Handbook Of Puzzling Artifacts",by William Corliss; 796 pages;1978.
Other well known anomaly authors/ researchers are Louis Pauwels & Jacques Bergier; Peter Kolosimo: "Not Of This World"; Ivan T. Sanderson; Peter Hanning and many, many more. It is like Robert Bauval once asked in one of his documentaries on anomalous objects found from ancient Egypt, "There is a feeling that so much lies buried of entire civilizations that seem to indicate they were as advanced or more than we are' we have nothing to dig deeper than one mile and we ask ourselves, just how old, really, is human history on Earth?"



So the idea that humans or humanoids of some species existed the same time dinosaurs did is not such a stretch.




No, it's not; what I have always found 'strange' is that if one really closely reads the details of many of the 'dreams' from Edgar Cayce, his descriptions of what are cleary dinosaurs being hunted by humans with modern weapons. His 'readings' were dated from his early years, long before many of the dinosaurs bones were discovered...I've puzzled over that for years, then I came across accounts of their skulls and other bones with 'bullet holes'. Some of the accounts had photos taken by the geologists and archeologists that unearthed them...Cayce had a rather strange and unique gift of 'seeing' and these finds fit with his 'visions'...decades before. Very puzzling, indeed.

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Sun 05/05/13 11:34 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 05/05/13 11:34 AM
And of course there is always the stargate time machine...

Here is a snapshot of Nigel running for his life....





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Sun 05/05/13 11:35 AM
Hunting trip: