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Edited by
mightymoe
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The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates That is illogical. I know I exist. i think the truer quote from Socrates is: "For everything there is to know, all i really know is that i know nothing". meaning, he'll never gain all the knowledge of the universe... Then he should say what he means. No one will gain all the knowledge of the universe. The whole of mankind will never gain all the knowledge of the universe. Also, it is illogical to "know nothing." You can only know something. Nothing is unknowable because it does not exist.  
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ag4nkSh7Q
"I see nothing, I am not even here, I did not even get up this morning." 
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If there is nothing then thats me.
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If there is nothing then thats me. That sounds like low self esteem. There is no nothing. You are definitely something! |
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If there is nothing then thats me. no, your definitely something... 
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There is nothing in my refrigerator! 
More literally, you should say, "There is no food in my refrigerator." But there is nothing funny about that! |
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 Fine, you win. You beat me to it.
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Edited by
RKISIT
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Sun 05/12/13 08:04 AM
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In science nothing is something.
Some people seem to think that the universe came from nothing.Technically Big Bang supporters claim that the universe was dense and hot.Well hot is heat,heat is energy so there's your energy.Second if it was so dense and small what force held it to stay small there had to have been matter. Energy and matter could have always existed even if you're a Big Bang kind of person. If you claim that matter and energy can only be in a vacuum then how can you claim that before a vacuum occurred that at least energy was a source of the cause of a vacuum? |
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In science nothing is something. Some people seem to think that the universe came from nothing.Technically Big Bang supporters claim that the universe was dense and hot.Well hot is heat,heat is energy so there's your energy.Second if it was so dense and small what force held it to stay small there had to have been matter. Energy and matter could have always existed even if you're a Big Bang kind of person. If you claim that matter and energy can only be in a vacuum then how can you claim that before a vacuum occurred that at least energy was a source of the cause of a vacuum? if they are saying there is no such thing as nothing, then the big bang theory is wrong.... which i've always thought anyway... |
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In science nothing is something. Some people seem to think that the universe came from nothing.Technically Big Bang supporters claim that the universe was dense and hot.Well hot is heat,heat is energy so there's your energy.Second if it was so dense and small what force held it to stay small there had to have been matter. Energy and matter could have always existed even if you're a Big Bang kind of person. If you claim that matter and energy can only be in a vacuum then how can you claim that before a vacuum occurred that at least energy was a source of the cause of a vacuum? if they are saying there is no such thing as nothing, then the big bang theory is wrong.... which i've always thought anyway... The theory that the big bang exploded from nothing pretty much went away some time ago. A more modern theory is that the big bang is the collision between two universes or a bubble expanding off of a bubble universe. |
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In science nothing is something. Some people seem to think that the universe came from nothing.Technically Big Bang supporters claim that the universe was dense and hot.Well hot is heat,heat is energy so there's your energy.Second if it was so dense and small what force held it to stay small there had to have been matter. Energy and matter could have always existed even if you're a Big Bang kind of person. If you claim that matter and energy can only be in a vacuum then how can you claim that before a vacuum occurred that at least energy was a source of the cause of a vacuum? if they are saying there is no such thing as nothing, then the big bang theory is wrong.... which i've always thought anyway... The theory that the big bang exploded from nothing pretty much went away some time ago. A more modern theory is that the big bang is the collision between two universes or a bubble expanding off of a bubble universe. i haven't read up about those theories yet... do you have a link to read about them? |
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In science nothing is something. Some people seem to think that the universe came from nothing.Technically Big Bang supporters claim that the universe was dense and hot.Well hot is heat,heat is energy so there's your energy.Second if it was so dense and small what force held it to stay small there had to have been matter. Energy and matter could have always existed even if you're a Big Bang kind of person. If you claim that matter and energy can only be in a vacuum then how can you claim that before a vacuum occurred that at least energy was a source of the cause of a vacuum? if they are saying there is no such thing as nothing, then the big bang theory is wrong.... which i've always thought anyway... The theory that the big bang exploded from nothing pretty much went away some time ago. A more modern theory is that the big bang is the collision between two universes or a bubble expanding off of a bubble universe. I saw that too. A bubble universe can actually 'give birth' to another bubble universe... attached by a black hole (cord) perhaps, and then when it detaches, perhaps the black hole closes up and the universe is born. Interesting, but difficult to compute. 
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Edited by
RKISIT
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Sun 05/12/13 03:37 PM
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Actually metalwing hit the nail on the head.The inflation theory is from the multiverse concept(theory) that eventually was attached to the big bang theory do to explaining the vacuum of space time.
In my honest opinion the multiverse theory makes sense because deuteriums,baryons,hadrons and tritiums had to have come from somethings aka the higgs boson.So in other words either a vacuum has always existed or energy and matter has always existed. There really is no other way around it.I accept the whole theory of the universe will start making sense when quantum gravity starts making sense.Gravity i think plays a key role in all of it. |
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Actually metalwing hit the nail on the head.The inflation theory is from the multiverse concept(theory) that eventually was attached to the big bang theory do to explaining the vacuum of space time. In my honest opinion the multiverse theory makes sense because deuteriums,baryons,hadrons and tritiums had to have come from somethings aka the higgs boson.So in other words either a vacuum has always existed or energy and matter has always existed. There really is no other way around it.I accept the whole theory of the universe will start making sense when quantum gravity starts making sense.Gravity i think plays a key role in all of it. I agree about the gravity. I don't think scientists have a clue what it really is. I'm not keen on the multiverse theory. I lean towards David Bohm's explicate and implicate orders and the hollow-graphic nature of things. |
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In science nothing is something. Some people seem to think that the universe came from nothing.Technically Big Bang supporters claim that the universe was dense and hot.Well hot is heat,heat is energy so there's your energy.Second if it was so dense and small what force held it to stay small there had to have been matter. Energy and matter could have always existed even if you're a Big Bang kind of person. If you claim that matter and energy can only be in a vacuum then how can you claim that before a vacuum occurred that at least energy was a source of the cause of a vacuum? if they are saying there is no such thing as nothing, then the big bang theory is wrong.... which i've always thought anyway... The theory that the big bang exploded from nothing pretty much went away some time ago. A more modern theory is that the big bang is the collision between two universes or a bubble expanding off of a bubble universe. i haven't read up about those theories yet... do you have a link to read about them? Brian Green's book "The elegant Universe" is the best. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekpyrotic_universe The Bubble Universe as described by Linde in many papers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_inflation |
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Maybe our entire universe is brain brain aneurysm in the mind of some thinking entity.
Or a glitch in some cosmic computer. |
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Dark Energy
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The presence of God.
He represents everything, but on the other hand, represents absolutely nothing. Nothingness has to be centered around Him somehow. Just my opinion, of course. 
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The presence of God. He represents everything, but on the other hand, represents absolutely nothing. Nothingness has to be centered around Him somehow. Just my opinion, of course.
yea, well.... can't really get my mind wrapped around that one... it's something to think about if they believe in god, but i prefer science... 
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