just cuz you are pretty easy going though do you still have expectations? what about what someone said about no expectations being "indifference?" You don't seem indifferent to me

once again assumptions. Expectations can be part of any relationship. think more deeply perhaps. what would your expectations of physical intimacy be? are you certain that those are the only expectations you have?

an intimate partner is not also a friend? how horrid

Another thread on here got me to thinking about expectations. I am thinking beyond simply: What do you "expect" from a partner?

Well, what do you expect?

But also how do you think expectations change as the relationship changes?

I think they do change and that they should start out very small until we know each other well enough to communicate about what our expectations are & try to make sure we keep them "fair"


is it possible to have a relationship with "no expectations?"

What do you expect?

nope,none.i looked at it as ,don't expect more from the other person than you're willing to also give and you won't get hurt

We all have expectations in our minds, whether we know it or not. My known expectations are intelligence, and not taller than me. My unknown expectations are what have to 'click' once I meet someone. So I think we have hidden expectations for a partner that only comes out when we meet that 'perfect' someone.

Wow, you're saying that I'm making assumptions?

I didn't say that I don't have any expectations apart from that and I didn't say that I don't want the friendship as well. All I said was that as far as I'm concerned, without the physical intimacy it's only friendship.

well no, I was not necessarily excluding sexuality from the relationship. Just asking about expectations so I am not sure where you get what you said back in your first comment, really. I'm not seeing the connection or relevance of whether or not there is intimacy. Because there is not always sex at first right away, and we were talking about how expectations can evolve. I would presume relationships have sex at some point but it is not really part of the question. (To explain MY confusion about what you said).

It is certainly a good point that relationships may or may not be romantic. I think we do still have expectations nonetheless


in any event once again your second comment does not seem relevant to what I said in my response....as in asking you to explore the new idea you brought to the floor. To me that would be more interesting than pursuing the apparent argument you wish to have. That is not going to happen. end/

I state my expectations upfront. Many people start out with none and end up with none. I am not interested in meeting and dating any man, who does not have expectations of what he wants in a woman.

If i may ?
I more HOPE than EXPECT...
To be LOVED,DESIRED and RESPECTED
In return for these same sentiments
Everything else is debatable and negotiable between two loving hearts

In love...
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KiK

but do you want to hear that right away? Are the expectations important to you because you hope to meet them, or because you are assessing compatability?

well no, I was not necessarily excluding sexuality from the relationship. Just asking about expectations so I am not sure where you get what you said back in your first comment, really. I'm not seeing the connection or relevance of whether or not there is intimacy. Because there is not always sex at first right away, and we were talking about how expectations can evolve. I would presume relationships have sex at some point but it is not really part of the question. (To explain MY confusion about what you said).

It is certainly a good point that relationships may or may not be romantic. I think we do still have expectations nonetheless


in any event once again your second comment does not seem relevant to what I said in my response....as in asking you to explore the new idea you brought to the floor. To me that would be more interesting than pursuing the apparent argument you wish to have. That is not going to happen.

Well, I just said that I don't say that I am in a "relationship" with somebody if there is no intimacy but fine, let's not be pedantic. Your question is, "what would your expectations of physical intimacy be?" I'm not sure what you mean by that and that seems like a very personal question.

I say that as far as I am concerned without that it is just friendship. Saying that, it is friendship that could potentially become a relationship. I want and expect different things from a friend and a partner. I will put up with things from someone that I am in a relationship with that I wouldn't put up with from someone that is just a friend. If someone insults me for instance, I will tell them that I don't want to be friends with somebody that talks to me like that. In my experience, things can change when you get into an actual relationship with someone and just because you got on as friends that doesn't mean that you will get on so well when you become romantically involved. If you don't get on as friends first though it is unlikely to develop into a relationship, so I do expect friendship and for that to still be there when it becomes a relationship but if we do fall out from time to time I will still want that person in my life because she is my partner, while I might discard them if they were only a friend. I think that in a relationship you have to be able to accept each other's faults and foibles. That doesn't mean that I will just put up with anything though from someone that I am in a relationship with.

Do I want fidelity? Yes, I don't cheat and won't stay with someone that cheats on me.

Do I want honesty? Well, that would be nice for a change. I don't expect women to always tell the truth though, or to be completely and brutally honest with me. I would like there to be communication and for me that goes hand and hand with the physical intimacy. I would want the relationship to develop so that we were intimate in every sense of the word. Maybe that answers your question?

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