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Topic: So we focus on guns...
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Sat 02/02/13 10:38 AM


I'm making stuff up? Look in a mirror some time. Technically the Roman Empire never quite went away! The REAL Romanesque way of life survived until about 900 AD with Constantinople as its capital hence the EASTERN Roman Empire and actually had a chance at a resurgence but a number of factors, economics being one of them and the failings of an EMPIRE MODEL of a civilization made them fizzle in the Legionary form of Rome. But the Holy Roman Empire lives on until this very day and its influence is now beginning to sputter.

Now for some history, SPAIN CONTROLLED THE VATICAN AS WELL AS FRANCE HISTORICALLY! And there was a last gasp Crusade in the 1200s! But by then attention was going to the New World!

And I indicated what? YOU MADE THAT ASSUMPTION! SO YOU QUIT MAKING STUFF UP!

Are you some Government plant or something?


Spain didn't control the Vatican, they simply got caught up into the religion and started torturing and killing people

you first claimed that the Crusades and The Inquistion was the Roman Army...I simply pointed out how you were wrong .....

you making up stuff won't change that history


NOW YOU DID STEP ON A LANDMINE! How many popes were Spanish? ESPECIALLY BACK THEN?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Spanish_popes

Here is the list including place of Birth!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes

So are you yelling for a Medic yet? GO BACK TO THE SCHOOL BOOKS!

I am arguing with someone who indeed thinks they are better and smarter than the rest of us!

How do like the proof in your face now?

Would you like me to send you a quarter so you can call up Homeland Security and tell them people with an education past High School are beating up on you on a dating site?

HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC ARMY BOYEEEEE! Quit twisting my words around. YOU JUST GOT BUSTED! A.K.A. THE CHURCH!


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Sat 02/02/13 02:18 PM

NOW YOU DID STEP ON A LANDMINE! How many popes were Spanish? ESPECIALLY BACK THEN?


Popes didn't fight in the Crusades..

again, you tried to claim that the crusades and the inquisition was fought by the roman army ...it wasn't

The Crusades was fought by Roman Catholics from around Europe, and The Spanish Inquisition was not a war

AndyBgood...let it go, you can't win this without changing the History Books

you like to play soldier, play like The Terminator and go back in time...oops I meant The Civil Defense Termintor




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Sat 02/02/13 03:40 PM


NOW YOU DID STEP ON A LANDMINE! How many popes were Spanish? ESPECIALLY BACK THEN?


Popes didn't fight in the Crusades..

again, you tried to claim that the crusades and the inquisition was fought by the roman army ...it wasn't

The Crusades was fought by Roman Catholics from around Europe, and The Spanish Inquisition was not a war

AndyBgood...let it go, you can't win this without changing the History Books

you like to play soldier, play like The Terminator and go back in time...oops I meant The Civil Defense Termintor









OK now Mr. Homeland Security, let us break this fallacy down right.

Pope led the Catholic Church. They were on a HOLY WAR (CRUSADE) to free the Holy Land (Conquer it for themselves).

Now the Catholic EMPIRE (Can you wrap your mind around that?) was composed of "member" nations to them. Much like what Rome once was actually comprised other nations like Gaul (France), Germania (Germany and most of east Europe), Carthage, Egypt, JUDEA (now Israel) and a lot of other smaller member nations all wrapped up in the embrace of an EMPIRE, ROME!

WITH THAT SAID, The CATHOLIC CHURCH being the SEAT OF EUROPEAN POWER IN THAT DAY sent 14 SEPARATE CRUSADES into the Holy Land over the years. Most of the times these armies were not MONO CULTURAL in that a lot of them had troops from several nations fighting in one army! Many of the Crusades were manned by criminals wanting absolution for their "sins" in the Holy Lands. Some of the Crusades were indeed mono cultural in that some King or Nobleman got it in their head they were going to lead an army from France or England into Jerusalem to take it from the Moors. But several of the crusades were composed of anyone they could get to go. At the time the Church blessed the killing of Heretics.

Now look up FRIDAY THE 13th in History! It was the day the first Inquisition was started and it was a war on the KNIGHTS TEMPLAR! In all reality the Inquisition was a kind of Civil War. Most of the time it was used as an excuse to punish Jews and Islamics becasue the Inquisitions was about POWER within the Church. It was a POWER GRAB!

So if I may ask, well, I am going to anyways whether or not you give me permission, DO YOU ACTUALLY READY HISTORY BOOKS OR DO YOU TEAR OFF THE COVERS AND EAT THE PAGES?

CD TERMINATOR, You are just so funny in a childish way. Play soldier. I am not a soldier. I am familiar with what soldiers do. Most of them don't run around all Bang bang. They serve many functions as well as us CIVILIANS Mr. Homeland Security. I just ain't afraid to get my hands dirty! And if our homes were being overrun by hostiles there is nowhere to run. If they are getting the crap pounded out of them well, this is my home, and I don't need some azzhat with stars on his shoulders telling me who to shoot at. If just keeping Ammo crates coming helps and I have no chance to shoot at anyone well, guess what, I hate being a beast of burden but I am hauling ammo boxes, maybe a wounded soldier on the way back for more ammo, then I am doing what I have to. It is NOT about heroics. It is about keeping our ship from sinking even if we have to plug the leak whole water is rushing in so ALL OF US DON'T DROWN!!!

If anyone here has a sense of False Bravado it MUST be you projecting that upon me!

But this is how I see it, when the crap does hit the fan there are two ways I could go, Leave everyone to suck it, or try to make a difference. And it is a lifetime of people like you telling me and others like me we just didn't have what it took to make a difference so don't bother is part of why America is falling apart at the seams.

So why should I even bother wanting to try to find a way we all can make our home a better place without people jumping to every extreme in the book like you do?

Does it make you feel so big to act like a condescending PRICK? Its so easy when the person you are looking down on can't be right there to look you in the eyes when you make such childish remarks.

What you got to Front for? It makes you so much better than me? If you really are a Fed I am stunned at the lack of decorum let alone the raw belligerence you present here. Your people skills certainly are lacking here and I am supposed to be the Social retard here. Scandalous on many levels my friend. You actually make me feel better about myself knowing I am not so small!

:banana: THANK YOU!:banana:

Yeah, if I had the power to take over I would, WHY? The leadership we got is not maintaining the standards of governance on us they were allowed by gratis of the Constitution! THEY ARE RULING US! I am frustrated that people cannot get their act together enough to stop this insanity! We are just going to go over cliff and the people most responsible for this are going to act like they own everything on us. Ready to kneel to a new King? I ain't!



I think like a terrorist... Yeah, and Lady Gaga doesn't wear freaky Sunglasses! I love America and Its Constitution. Its messed up but it is my home! I DO NOT LIKE THE HYPOCRITICAL LEADERSHIP WHO ASSUMES THEY ARE NOT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS DOWN TO THE PERSONAL LEVEL!!!

So hey, you better get a hug from someone. You really do need it!

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Sat 02/02/13 04:27 PM

Now the Catholic EMPIRE (Can you wrap your mind around that?) was composed of "member" nations to them. Much like what Rome once was actually comprised other nations like Gaul (France), Germania (Germany and most of east Europe), Carthage, Egypt, JUDEA (now Israel) and a lot of other smaller member nations all wrapped up in the embrace of an EMPIRE, ROME!


once again I'm forced to remind you that you claim that the Crusades and The Inquisition was fought by the Roman Army

The Crusades were fought by Roman Catholics not The Roman Army

and the Inqusition was not a war .....

you posting random stuff can not change these facts...


CD TERMINATOR, You are just so funny in a childish way. Play soldier. I am not a soldier.


glad you finally realize you're not a soldier...took a while

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Sat 02/02/13 05:47 PM


Now the Catholic EMPIRE (Can you wrap your mind around that?) was composed of "member" nations to them. Much like what Rome once was actually comprised other nations like Gaul (France), Germania (Germany and most of east Europe), Carthage, Egypt, JUDEA (now Israel) and a lot of other smaller member nations all wrapped up in the embrace of an EMPIRE, ROME!


once again I'm forced to remind you that you claim that the Crusades and The Inquisition was fought by the Roman Army

The Crusades were fought by Roman Catholics not The Roman Army

and the Inqusition was not a war .....

you posting random stuff can not change these facts...


CD TERMINATOR, You are just so funny in a childish way. Play soldier. I am not a soldier.


glad you finally realize you're not a soldier...took a while


Fight for Christ, YOU WERE A SOLDIER FOR THE CHURCH! Again you are rewriting history! NOT ME! Vatican Guard. Who are they?

Whoot whoot....


I never pretended to be a soldier. I just ain't afraid to throw in when needed! What, every day "NORMAL CITIZENS" never came out of the blue and saved the day for home and community? OH BUT NO! We got to treat people who didn't stack up for the system like they don't count. I am not a soldier but I am sick of having of fear ever god damn thing in sight. Why should I be scared I may come across a cop having a bad day and he decided to take it out on me? Or better yet have to worry about being shot in the back for surrendering to them? Why am I supposed to live in such detachment within my own society? Because big men with big boots are going to kill me if I don't respect them? Aren't they supposed to respect ME? Innocent until proven guilty? OH NO LADDY BUCK, Every police force has at least one JJEs among them with rare cases of the force actually looking out for these Paladins!

FUCQ FEAR. I am done with it!

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Sun 02/03/13 05:38 AM

Vatican Guard. Who are they?

Whoot whoot....


the Vatican guard is not the Roman Army

those fighting in The Crusades was not the Roman Army..they were Roman Catholics

The Spainish Inquistion was not a war fought by The Roman Army ...


AndyBgood...isn't it time to just admit that you were wrong?


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Sun 02/03/13 11:24 AM


Vatican Guard. Who are they?

Whoot whoot....


the Vatican guard is not the Roman Army

those fighting in The Crusades was not the Roman Army..they were Roman Catholics

The Spainish Inquistion was not a war fought by The Roman Army ...


AndyBgood...isn't it time to just admit that you were wrong?




AGAIN WRONG WRONG WRONG!

And Sextrice WRONG! Spain was a VASSAL STATE of the Vatican. If their soldiers were acting in the name of a Theocratic Government which most of Europe was back then, GUESS WHAT! CHURCH SOLDIERS! And the Vatican Guard? Traditionally SWISS BUT They are SOLDIERS WHO ANSWER DIRECTLY TO THE POPE! If they ain't soldiers why do they wear uniforms and carry MACHINE GUNS???

So now you are beginning to boar me twisting facts to serve you!

Isn't it high time to admit you are not as smart as you are pretending to be????

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Sun 02/03/13 11:52 AM



Vatican Guard. Who are they?

Whoot whoot....


the Vatican guard is not the Roman Army

those fighting in The Crusades was not the Roman Army..they were Roman Catholics

The Spainish Inquistion was not a war fought by The Roman Army ...


AndyBgood...isn't it time to just admit that you were wrong?




AGAIN WRONG WRONG WRONG!

And Sextrice WRONG! Spain was a VASSAL STATE of the Vatican. If their soldiers were acting in the name of a Theocratic Government which most of Europe was back then, GUESS WHAT! CHURCH SOLDIERS! And the Vatican Guard? Traditionally SWISS BUT They are SOLDIERS WHO ANSWER DIRECTLY TO THE POPE! If they ain't soldiers why do they wear uniforms and carry MACHINE GUNS???

So now you are beginning to boar me twisting facts to serve you!

Isn't it high time to admit you are not as smart as you are pretending to be????


machine guns?????....not Romans nor anyone had machine guns during the Crusades and The Inquistion ...

you were trying to say that the Roman Army fought in the Crusades and the Inquistion....now somehow you bring up machine guns?

you might be a gun addict

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Sun 02/03/13 11:58 AM



Vatican Guard. Who are they?

Whoot whoot....


the Vatican guard is not the Roman Army

those fighting in The Crusades was not the Roman Army..they were Roman Catholics

The Spainish Inquistion was not a war fought by The Roman Army ...


AndyBgood...isn't it time to just admit that you were wrong?




AGAIN WRONG WRONG WRONG!

And Sextrice WRONG! Spain was a VASSAL STATE of the Vatican. If their soldiers were acting in the name of a Theocratic Government which most of Europe was back then, GUESS WHAT! CHURCH SOLDIERS! And the Vatican Guard? Traditionally SWISS BUT They are SOLDIERS WHO ANSWER DIRECTLY TO THE POPE! If they ain't soldiers why do they wear uniforms and carry MACHINE GUNS???

So now you are beginning to boar me twisting facts to serve you!

Isn't it high time to admit you are not as smart as you are pretending to be????
actually Swiss Roman Catholics,having done the mandatory Basic Training in the Swiss Armed Forces,and been accepted into the Vatican Swiss Guards,also subject to the permission by the Swiss Government which is being regulated by Treaty between the Swiss Federation and Vatican State!
Foreign Military Service is forbidden to Swiss Citizens,except in Cases where they become Dual Citizens and are required to do Military Service in their adopted Country,Case in Point,the United States during the Draft,but are also permitted to do voluntary Service!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard

The Swiss constitution, as amended in 1874, forbade all military capitulations and recruitment of Swiss by foreign powers, although volunteering in foreign armies continued until prohibited outright, in 1927. The Papal Swiss Guard (see below) remains an exception to this prohibition in view of the unique political status of the Vatican and of the essentially bodyguard status of the unit.


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Sun 02/03/13 01:56 PM




Vatican Guard. Who are they?

Whoot whoot....


the Vatican guard is not the Roman Army

those fighting in The Crusades was not the Roman Army..they were Roman Catholics

The Spainish Inquistion was not a war fought by The Roman Army ...


AndyBgood...isn't it time to just admit that you were wrong?




AGAIN WRONG WRONG WRONG!

And Sextrice WRONG! Spain was a VASSAL STATE of the Vatican. If their soldiers were acting in the name of a Theocratic Government which most of Europe was back then, GUESS WHAT! CHURCH SOLDIERS! And the Vatican Guard? Traditionally SWISS BUT They are SOLDIERS WHO ANSWER DIRECTLY TO THE POPE! If they ain't soldiers why do they wear uniforms and carry MACHINE GUNS???

So now you are beginning to boar me twisting facts to serve you!

Isn't it high time to admit you are not as smart as you are pretending to be????
actually Swiss Roman Catholics,having done the mandatory Basic Training in the Swiss Armed Forces,and been accepted into the Vatican Swiss Guards,also subject to the permission by the Swiss Government which is being regulated by Treaty between the Swiss Federation and Vatican State!
Foreign Military Service is forbidden to Swiss Citizens,except in Cases where they become Dual Citizens and are required to do Military Service in their adopted Country,Case in Point,the United States during the Draft,but are also permitted to do voluntary Service!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard

The Swiss constitution, as amended in 1874, forbade all military capitulations and recruitment of Swiss by foreign powers, although volunteering in foreign armies continued until prohibited outright, in 1927. The Papal Swiss Guard (see below) remains an exception to this prohibition in view of the unique political status of the Vatican and of the essentially bodyguard status of the unit.




Body Guards with machine guns! But these days they are watered down from what they were in say the 12 and 1300s CONSIDERABLY! Once upon a time they were the Delta Force of the Church!

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