Topic: God the creator of everything? ..
CowboyGH's photo
Thu 01/03/13 07:05 AM




aed to be said to this is...

Believe in a God not the bible.. it only makes sense...

how can one believe a bible that has so much proven stupidness to it?


Nothing in the bible has been proven to be "stupid". The things said in the bible can be backed by third party none religious sources.

And anyways "stupid" used in this context is purely a perspective, which you are totally entitled to.

And yes the key is to believe in God and not specifically the bible. The bible is merely knowledge, it isn't something divine so to speak, the bible can not save your soul.


so its for people who need "inspiring" words?

yeah but what about all the bs they didnt put in the bible... where did that nonesense come from?

i heard jesus was a bad child? didnt he kill a kid for scuffin his shoes or make another guy turn into something? until i think his parents and some guy told him to stop...? also wasnt there dragons supposably seen in the caves with him as a child? there has to be somewhere this junk comes from and i thought was taken out of the bible or these words were in some book from back then...? but also what are ur proven facts the bible is "true"?


I think you may have some beliefs mixed up.

Jesus was never a bad child, he actually starting preaching as a child. He didn't kill anyone. And he didn't have "parents" in the fashion you're presenting it. Jesus didn't have a mortal dad/father. His mother was the virgin Marry which conceived Jesus through the Holy Spirit. There wasn't any dragons either.

There are many different third party sources for the things that are recorded in the bible.

Nothing ever proves anything to be "true" in that exact context. Heck if I didn't want to believe the world was round, there's absolutely nothing you could show me to prove it's round. That little bit of fact applies to any and all knowledge.

And no, it's not specifically just for inspiring words. It is merely knowledge. That is it. Knowledge of past events, prophecies of the future, and God's laws.


Some of the third party sources include, but are not limited to

- Cornelius Tacitus (55-120 AD), "the greatest historian" of ancient Rome
- Gaius Suetonius Tranquillas, chief secretary of Emperor Hadrian (117-138 AD)
- Flavius Josephus (37-97 AD), court historian for Emperor Vespasian

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Thu 01/03/13 07:12 AM



But he did not pray to not die for sins. What are you talking about? o.O


Cowboy..."OldHippie" say that Jesus prayed to God that the burden not be put on him ....

so is "Oldhippie" a fellow Christian such as yourself wrong?


Now, what are you talking about? I never said anyone was wrong.


Cowboy..is the statement "Oldhippie" made about Jesus praying to God that he not to carry the burden..right or wrong?

it's these Perry mason moments that makes it all worthwhile

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 01/03/13 07:19 AM




But he did not pray to not die for sins. What are you talking about? o.O


Cowboy..."OldHippie" say that Jesus prayed to God that the burden not be put on him ....

so is "Oldhippie" a fellow Christian such as yourself wrong?


Now, what are you talking about? I never said anyone was wrong.


Cowboy..is the statement "Oldhippie" made about Jesus praying to God that he not to carry the burden..right or wrong?

it's these Perry mason moments that makes it all worthwhile


It is not my place to say weather he is right or wrong. If that's the way he translates the scriptures, then that's the way he translates the scriptures.

My God, my God why have you forsaken me.

How one translates that into how they feel he ment that statement is totally up to them.

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Thu 01/03/13 07:23 AM
Edited by funches on Thu 01/03/13 07:23 AM

It is not my place to say weather he is right or wrong. If that's the way he translates the scriptures, then that's the way he translates the scriptures.


but yet when I quoted exactly the same thing "oldhippie" posted...you felt it was your place to indicate that I was wrong but yet claim it's not your place to claim that "oldhippie" is wrong....

can we say...er...Hypocrite?


CowboyGH's photo
Thu 01/03/13 07:24 AM


But in the long run, God did create evil.


Jeez..after all that ranting you admit that God created evil ...as I've stated, you are incapable of posting without contradicting yourself .....it has to be something medical ...



No, just you editing people's post and lying about what they said in the process.


But in the long run, God did create evil. He created it when he created his will. Evil is going against his will.

God created night when he created day. They are opposite of one another.



FYI, editing people's post is lying, it is claiming they said something they didn't.

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Thu 01/03/13 07:25 AM

FYI, editing people's post is lying, it is claiming they said something they didn't.


Cowboy ...don't you edit passages from the bible ...

can we again say ...er...Hypocrite?

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 01/03/13 07:29 AM


FYI, editing people's post is lying, it is claiming they said something they didn't.


Cowboy ...don't you edit passages from the bible ...

can we again say ...er...Hypocrite?


No I don't edit passages from the bible.

A translation is not an edit, an edit is adding or removing words and or possibly changing the spelling of a word(s). But just for translation it one language to another is not editing what it says.

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Thu 01/03/13 07:40 AM



FYI, editing people's post is lying, it is claiming they said something they didn't.


Cowboy ...don't you edit passages from the bible ...

can we again say ...er...Hypocrite?


No I don't edit passages from the bible.

A translation is not an edit, an edit is adding or removing words and or possibly changing the spelling of a word(s). But just for translation it one language to another is not editing what it says.


sorry Cowboy...you're guilty of editing passages from the bible...which is blasphemy

now fall to your knees and pray to the all mighty for forgiveness ...and then get back on topic thank you very much

Antonfletch's photo
Thu 01/03/13 07:43 AM




aed to be said to this is...

Believe in a God not the bible.. it only makes sense...

how can one believe a bible that has so much proven stupidness to it?


Nothing in the bible has been proven to be "stupid". The things said in the bible can be backed by third party none religious sources.

And anyways "stupid" used in this context is purely a perspective, which you are totally entitled to.

And yes the key is to believe in God and not specifically the bible. The bible is merely knowledge, it isn't something divine so to speak, the bible can not save your soul.


so its for people who need "inspiring" words?

yeah but what about all the bs they didnt put in the bible... where did that nonesense come from?

i heard jesus was a bad child? didnt he kill a kid for scuffin his shoes or make another guy turn into something? until i think his parents and some guy told him to stop...? also wasnt there dragons supposably seen in the caves with him as a child? there has to be somewhere this junk comes from and i thought was taken out of the bible or these words were in some book from back then...? but also what are ur proven facts the bible is "true"?


I think you may have some beliefs mixed up.

Jesus was never a bad child, he actually starting preaching as a child. He didn't kill anyone. And he didn't have "parents" in the fashion you're presenting it. Jesus didn't have a mortal dad/father. His mother was the virgin Marry which conceived Jesus through the Holy Spirit. There wasn't any dragons either.

There are many different third party sources for the things that are recorded in the bible.

Nothing ever proves anything to be "true" in that exact context. Heck if I didn't want to believe the world was round, there's absolutely nothing you could show me to prove it's round. That little bit of fact applies to any and all knowledge.

And no, it's not specifically just for inspiring words. It is merely knowledge. That is it. Knowledge of past events, prophecies of the future, and God's laws.


im sure its written like ur 3rd patys wrote... have u ever reaserched what they have taken out of the bible... what do u say about all that junk? it was written too... it just sounds like a bunch of authors editing stuff so it seems right or legit sounding so they can benifit or not loose believers. and im talking about "guardians" he had.

prove the world is round... u serious.. bad example dude lmao u dont know science or what? :p

are u sure they are gods laws? im sure people have altered to benifit them.. and like i say look to the past religion is only power and has been built because of kings and that junk.. cause how can u rule without some way of getting followers...

u should research more.... maybe?


CowboyGH's photo
Thu 01/03/13 07:49 AM





aed to be said to this is...

Believe in a God not the bible.. it only makes sense...

how can one believe a bible that has so much proven stupidness to it?


Nothing in the bible has been proven to be "stupid". The things said in the bible can be backed by third party none religious sources.

And anyways "stupid" used in this context is purely a perspective, which you are totally entitled to.

And yes the key is to believe in God and not specifically the bible. The bible is merely knowledge, it isn't something divine so to speak, the bible can not save your soul.


so its for people who need "inspiring" words?

yeah but what about all the bs they didnt put in the bible... where did that nonesense come from?

i heard jesus was a bad child? didnt he kill a kid for scuffin his shoes or make another guy turn into something? until i think his parents and some guy told him to stop...? also wasnt there dragons supposably seen in the caves with him as a child? there has to be somewhere this junk comes from and i thought was taken out of the bible or these words were in some book from back then...? but also what are ur proven facts the bible is "true"?


I think you may have some beliefs mixed up.

Jesus was never a bad child, he actually starting preaching as a child. He didn't kill anyone. And he didn't have "parents" in the fashion you're presenting it. Jesus didn't have a mortal dad/father. His mother was the virgin Marry which conceived Jesus through the Holy Spirit. There wasn't any dragons either.

There are many different third party sources for the things that are recorded in the bible.

Nothing ever proves anything to be "true" in that exact context. Heck if I didn't want to believe the world was round, there's absolutely nothing you could show me to prove it's round. That little bit of fact applies to any and all knowledge.

And no, it's not specifically just for inspiring words. It is merely knowledge. That is it. Knowledge of past events, prophecies of the future, and God's laws.


im sure its written like ur 3rd patys wrote... have u ever reaserched what they have taken out of the bible... what do u say about all that junk? it was written too... it just sounds like a bunch of authors editing stuff so it seems right or legit sounding so they can benifit or not loose believers. and im talking about "guardians" he had.

prove the world is round... u serious.. bad example dude lmao u dont know science or what? :p

are u sure they are gods laws? im sure people have altered to benifit them.. and like i say look to the past religion is only power and has been built because of kings and that junk.. cause how can u rule without some way of getting followers...

u should research more.... maybe?




Aye, but even with "researching" it, in my mind I could always keep a state of mind they are biased in what they say about their facts they present. It could all be made up. Again, not debating weather the world is round or not, cause it is lol. Just an example of what I'm saying. It only becomes fact or true when one accepts what they are presented.

And it's not humanly possible to put all the scriptures/knowledge we have on God into one book. If they did accomplish that, a person would not be able to carry it, for it would be way to big and way to heavy.

So they only included the information on things that applied to our salvation rather then including all the different knowledge of history and or things that happened.

Antonfletch's photo
Thu 01/03/13 07:59 AM






aed to be said to this is...

Believe in a God not the bible.. it only makes sense...

how can one believe a bible that has so much proven stupidness to it?


Nothing in the bible has been proven to be "stupid". The things said in the bible can be backed by third party none religious sources.

And anyways "stupid" used in this context is purely a perspective, which you are totally entitled to.

And yes the key is to believe in God and not specifically the bible. The bible is merely knowledge, it isn't something divine so to speak, the bible can not save your soul.


so its for people who need "inspiring" words?

yeah but what about all the bs they didnt put in the bible... where did that nonesense come from?

i heard jesus was a bad child? didnt he kill a kid for scuffin his shoes or make another guy turn into something? until i think his parents and some guy told him to stop...? also wasnt there dragons supposably seen in the caves with him as a child? there has to be somewhere this junk comes from and i thought was taken out of the bible or these words were in some book from back then...? but also what are ur proven facts the bible is "true"?


I think you may have some beliefs mixed up.

Jesus was never a bad child, he actually starting preaching as a child. He didn't kill anyone. And he didn't have "parents" in the fashion you're presenting it. Jesus didn't have a mortal dad/father. His mother was the virgin Marry which conceived Jesus through the Holy Spirit. There wasn't any dragons either.

There are many different third party sources for the things that are recorded in the bible.

Nothing ever proves anything to be "true" in that exact context. Heck if I didn't want to believe the world was round, there's absolutely nothing you could show me to prove it's round. That little bit of fact applies to any and all knowledge.

And no, it's not specifically just for inspiring words. It is merely knowledge. That is it. Knowledge of past events, prophecies of the future, and God's laws.


im sure its written like ur 3rd patys wrote... have u ever reaserched what they have taken out of the bible... what do u say about all that junk? it was written too... it just sounds like a bunch of authors editing stuff so it seems right or legit sounding so they can benifit or not loose believers. and im talking about "guardians" he had.

prove the world is round... u serious.. bad example dude lmao u dont know science or what? :p

are u sure they are gods laws? im sure people have altered to benifit them.. and like i say look to the past religion is only power and has been built because of kings and that junk.. cause how can u rule without some way of getting followers...

u should research more.... maybe?




Aye, but even with "researching" it, in my mind I could always keep a state of mind they are biased in what they say about their facts they present. It could all be made up. Again, not debating weather the world is round or not, cause it is lol. Just an example of what I'm saying. It only becomes fact or true when one accepts what they are presented.

And it's not humanly possible to put all the scriptures/knowledge we have on God into one book. If they did accomplish that, a person would not be able to carry it, for it would be way to big and way to heavy.

So they only included the information on things that applied to our salvation rather then including all the different knowledge of history and or things that happened.


they are written just like ur bible and why would they take out bs and u would still believe only what they decide to put in the bible?...

idk if that makes sense dude so ur saying udk if the **** they write is true but u will still read and follow it? and ur saying who cares about the other history leading up the the "salvation book"?

maybe out of the fear of being judged wrong or something?

Antonfletch's photo
Thu 01/03/13 08:25 AM
but anywho!....,

Evil was created by man and our undeveloped brain and emotions with a little bit of the crazy part in all our minds scientifically. Just some choose to express it... maybe?

Evil is the fault in our creation because nobody can control ones mind and devolopment of the brain unless they do it like brain wash like a religion or government! :p


CowboyGH's photo
Thu 01/03/13 08:30 AM







aed to be said to this is...

Believe in a God not the bible.. it only makes sense...

how can one believe a bible that has so much proven stupidness to it?


Nothing in the bible has been proven to be "stupid". The things said in the bible can be backed by third party none religious sources.

And anyways "stupid" used in this context is purely a perspective, which you are totally entitled to.

And yes the key is to believe in God and not specifically the bible. The bible is merely knowledge, it isn't something divine so to speak, the bible can not save your soul.


so its for people who need "inspiring" words?

yeah but what about all the bs they didnt put in the bible... where did that nonesense come from?

i heard jesus was a bad child? didnt he kill a kid for scuffin his shoes or make another guy turn into something? until i think his parents and some guy told him to stop...? also wasnt there dragons supposably seen in the caves with him as a child? there has to be somewhere this junk comes from and i thought was taken out of the bible or these words were in some book from back then...? but also what are ur proven facts the bible is "true"?


I think you may have some beliefs mixed up.

Jesus was never a bad child, he actually starting preaching as a child. He didn't kill anyone. And he didn't have "parents" in the fashion you're presenting it. Jesus didn't have a mortal dad/father. His mother was the virgin Marry which conceived Jesus through the Holy Spirit. There wasn't any dragons either.

There are many different third party sources for the things that are recorded in the bible.

Nothing ever proves anything to be "true" in that exact context. Heck if I didn't want to believe the world was round, there's absolutely nothing you could show me to prove it's round. That little bit of fact applies to any and all knowledge.

And no, it's not specifically just for inspiring words. It is merely knowledge. That is it. Knowledge of past events, prophecies of the future, and God's laws.


im sure its written like ur 3rd patys wrote... have u ever reaserched what they have taken out of the bible... what do u say about all that junk? it was written too... it just sounds like a bunch of authors editing stuff so it seems right or legit sounding so they can benifit or not loose believers. and im talking about "guardians" he had.

prove the world is round... u serious.. bad example dude lmao u dont know science or what? :p

are u sure they are gods laws? im sure people have altered to benifit them.. and like i say look to the past religion is only power and has been built because of kings and that junk.. cause how can u rule without some way of getting followers...

u should research more.... maybe?




Aye, but even with "researching" it, in my mind I could always keep a state of mind they are biased in what they say about their facts they present. It could all be made up. Again, not debating weather the world is round or not, cause it is lol. Just an example of what I'm saying. It only becomes fact or true when one accepts what they are presented.

And it's not humanly possible to put all the scriptures/knowledge we have on God into one book. If they did accomplish that, a person would not be able to carry it, for it would be way to big and way to heavy.

So they only included the information on things that applied to our salvation rather then including all the different knowledge of history and or things that happened.


they are written just like ur bible and why would they take out bs and u would still believe only what they decide to put in the bible?...

idk if that makes sense dude so ur saying udk if the **** they write is true but u will still read and follow it? and ur saying who cares about the other history leading up the the "salvation book"?

maybe out of the fear of being judged wrong or something?


Judged being wrong? By who? I truly don't give a flying monkey what anyone in this world thinks of me.

They didn't take out anything, the other books can be read if you wish to read them. They aren't hiding the other books. The bible is ment to be able to carry around with you. And again, if all the scriptures were included, the book would be to heavy to carry. The bible is ment for easy mobility of the scriptures for the general use. Now again, if you wish to read up on the other books, they can be found. Either on the net, through books stores, possibly the library, or any number of places.

What is included in the bible are the scriptures on salvation, and the history that lead up to it. Again, any further in depth knowledge one wishes to have on it, can be found if they look for it.

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 01/03/13 08:32 AM

but anywho!....,

Evil was created by man and our undeveloped brain and emotions with a little bit of the crazy part in all our minds scientifically. Just some choose to express it... maybe?

Evil is the fault in our creation because nobody can control ones mind and devolopment of the brain unless they do it like brain wash like a religion or government! :p




One has total control over their thoughts, over one's mind, what are you talking about?

Antonfletch's photo
Thu 01/03/13 08:47 AM








aed to be said to this is...

Believe in a God not the bible.. it only makes sense...

how can one believe a bible that has so much proven stupidness to it?


Nothing in the bible has been proven to be "stupid". The things said in the bible can be backed by third party none religious sources.

And anyways "stupid" used in this context is purely a perspective, which you are totally entitled to.

And yes the key is to believe in God and not specifically the bible. The bible is merely knowledge, it isn't something divine so to speak, the bible can not save your soul.


so its for people who need "inspiring" words?

yeah but what about all the bs they didnt put in the bible... where did that nonesense come from?

i heard jesus was a bad child? didnt he kill a kid for scuffin his shoes or make another guy turn into something? until i think his parents and some guy told him to stop...? also wasnt there dragons supposably seen in the caves with him as a child? there has to be somewhere this junk comes from and i thought was taken out of the bible or these words were in some book from back then...? but also what are ur proven facts the bible is "true"?


I think you may have some beliefs mixed up.

Jesus was never a bad child, he actually starting preaching as a child. He didn't kill anyone. And he didn't have "parents" in the fashion you're presenting it. Jesus didn't have a mortal dad/father. His mother was the virgin Marry which conceived Jesus through the Holy Spirit. There wasn't any dragons either.

There are many different third party sources for the things that are recorded in the bible.

Nothing ever proves anything to be "true" in that exact context. Heck if I didn't want to believe the world was round, there's absolutely nothing you could show me to prove it's round. That little bit of fact applies to any and all knowledge.

And no, it's not specifically just for inspiring words. It is merely knowledge. That is it. Knowledge of past events, prophecies of the future, and God's laws.


im sure its written like ur 3rd patys wrote... have u ever reaserched what they have taken out of the bible... what do u say about all that junk? it was written too... it just sounds like a bunch of authors editing stuff so it seems right or legit sounding so they can benifit or not loose believers. and im talking about "guardians" he had.

prove the world is round... u serious.. bad example dude lmao u dont know science or what? :p

are u sure they are gods laws? im sure people have altered to benifit them.. and like i say look to the past religion is only power and has been built because of kings and that junk.. cause how can u rule without some way of getting followers...

u should research more.... maybe?




Aye, but even with "researching" it, in my mind I could always keep a state of mind they are biased in what they say about their facts they present. It could all be made up. Again, not debating weather the world is round or not, cause it is lol. Just an example of what I'm saying. It only becomes fact or true when one accepts what they are presented.

And it's not humanly possible to put all the scriptures/knowledge we have on God into one book. If they did accomplish that, a person would not be able to carry it, for it would be way to big and way to heavy.

So they only included the information on things that applied to our salvation rather then including all the different knowledge of history and or things that happened.


they are written just like ur bible and why would they take out bs and u would still believe only what they decide to put in the bible?...

idk if that makes sense dude so ur saying udk if the **** they write is true but u will still read and follow it? and ur saying who cares about the other history leading up the the "salvation book"?

maybe out of the fear of being judged wrong or something?


Judged being wrong? By who? I truly don't give a flying monkey what anyone in this world thinks of me.

They didn't take out anything, the other books can be read if you wish to read them. They aren't hiding the other books. The bible is ment to be able to carry around with you. And again, if all the scriptures were included, the book would be to heavy to carry. The bible is ment for easy mobility of the scriptures for the general use. Now again, if you wish to read up on the other books, they can be found. Either on the net, through books stores, possibly the library, or any number of places.

What is included in the bible are the scriptures on salvation, and the history that lead up to it. Again, any further in depth knowledge one wishes to have on it, can be found if they look for it.


in fear of hell or whatever reason u read and follow it...seriously? lol u dont read these posts very clearly or correctly.. it kinda shows in ur reponses... u need to think outside the box and question because im almost guarantee things u know can be questioned.. u can see in the way u write u seem blindish to some facts or dont want to believe them because of ur beliefs?

yes they did dude... u should know since u seem to think u know all about it but failed to answer some of my questions out of reaserch for urselve and ur knowledge u know now about it and it doesnt matter u shouldnt read just certain parts then why make a bible in the first place if its not meant to be all read... so all that other junk doesnt matter? so was the bible for marketing and cash for a religion power? lol

Antonfletch's photo
Thu 01/03/13 08:55 AM


but anywho!....,

Evil was created by man and our undeveloped brain and emotions with a little bit of the crazy part in all our minds scientifically. Just some choose to express it... maybe?

Evil is the fault in our creation because nobody can control ones mind and devolopment of the brain unless they do it like brain wash like a religion or government! :p




One has total control over their thoughts, over one's mind, what are you talking about?


wtf are u talking about, humans are weak and u think everyone really contols there minds? people are crazy even if it doesnt seem like it. ok then tell me why those crazy people say someone told them.. wtf is that then? aparently u dont know science and are blind to things... mental health is getting worse like things in the world alter thought maybe and confuses people and all that junk can create an evil person... also the more u see things in life also alters thinking and all that junk... think u should think outside the box and relize science and life more maybe get out more in life and talk to all types of different people then u can clearly see the thoughts of these types of people and see the evil in there minds and see what controls it? lol idk ur answers seem so blind.. not sure if i said correctly but im sure u get the point..

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 01/03/13 09:04 AM









aed to be said to this is...

Believe in a God not the bible.. it only makes sense...

how can one believe a bible that has so much proven stupidness to it?


Nothing in the bible has been proven to be "stupid". The things said in the bible can be backed by third party none religious sources.

And anyways "stupid" used in this context is purely a perspective, which you are totally entitled to.

And yes the key is to believe in God and not specifically the bible. The bible is merely knowledge, it isn't something divine so to speak, the bible can not save your soul.


so its for people who need "inspiring" words?

yeah but what about all the bs they didnt put in the bible... where did that nonesense come from?

i heard jesus was a bad child? didnt he kill a kid for scuffin his shoes or make another guy turn into something? until i think his parents and some guy told him to stop...? also wasnt there dragons supposably seen in the caves with him as a child? there has to be somewhere this junk comes from and i thought was taken out of the bible or these words were in some book from back then...? but also what are ur proven facts the bible is "true"?


I think you may have some beliefs mixed up.

Jesus was never a bad child, he actually starting preaching as a child. He didn't kill anyone. And he didn't have "parents" in the fashion you're presenting it. Jesus didn't have a mortal dad/father. His mother was the virgin Marry which conceived Jesus through the Holy Spirit. There wasn't any dragons either.

There are many different third party sources for the things that are recorded in the bible.

Nothing ever proves anything to be "true" in that exact context. Heck if I didn't want to believe the world was round, there's absolutely nothing you could show me to prove it's round. That little bit of fact applies to any and all knowledge.

And no, it's not specifically just for inspiring words. It is merely knowledge. That is it. Knowledge of past events, prophecies of the future, and God's laws.


im sure its written like ur 3rd patys wrote... have u ever reaserched what they have taken out of the bible... what do u say about all that junk? it was written too... it just sounds like a bunch of authors editing stuff so it seems right or legit sounding so they can benifit or not loose believers. and im talking about "guardians" he had.

prove the world is round... u serious.. bad example dude lmao u dont know science or what? :p

are u sure they are gods laws? im sure people have altered to benifit them.. and like i say look to the past religion is only power and has been built because of kings and that junk.. cause how can u rule without some way of getting followers...

u should research more.... maybe?




Aye, but even with "researching" it, in my mind I could always keep a state of mind they are biased in what they say about their facts they present. It could all be made up. Again, not debating weather the world is round or not, cause it is lol. Just an example of what I'm saying. It only becomes fact or true when one accepts what they are presented.

And it's not humanly possible to put all the scriptures/knowledge we have on God into one book. If they did accomplish that, a person would not be able to carry it, for it would be way to big and way to heavy.

So they only included the information on things that applied to our salvation rather then including all the different knowledge of history and or things that happened.


they are written just like ur bible and why would they take out bs and u would still believe only what they decide to put in the bible?...

idk if that makes sense dude so ur saying udk if the **** they write is true but u will still read and follow it? and ur saying who cares about the other history leading up the the "salvation book"?

maybe out of the fear of being judged wrong or something?


Judged being wrong? By who? I truly don't give a flying monkey what anyone in this world thinks of me.

They didn't take out anything, the other books can be read if you wish to read them. They aren't hiding the other books. The bible is ment to be able to carry around with you. And again, if all the scriptures were included, the book would be to heavy to carry. The bible is ment for easy mobility of the scriptures for the general use. Now again, if you wish to read up on the other books, they can be found. Either on the net, through books stores, possibly the library, or any number of places.

What is included in the bible are the scriptures on salvation, and the history that lead up to it. Again, any further in depth knowledge one wishes to have on it, can be found if they look for it.


in fear of hell or whatever reason u read and follow it...seriously? lol u dont read these posts very clearly or correctly.. it kinda shows in ur reponses... u need to think outside the box and question because im almost guarantee things u know can be questioned.. u can see in the way u write u seem blindish to some facts or dont want to believe them because of ur beliefs?

yes they did dude... u should know since u seem to think u know all about it but failed to answer some of my questions out of reaserch for urselve and ur knowledge u know now about it and it doesnt matter u shouldnt read just certain parts then why make a bible in the first place if its not meant to be all read... so all that other junk doesnt matter? so was the bible for marketing and cash for a religion power? lol



Fear of hell? Who has fear of hell? What are you talking about?

Marketing and cash for a religion power? Wow, that's way out there. The entire bible is ment to be read, I never said it wasn't. That's why the scriptures are included in the bible, for the general people to read.

The things written in the bible and or the scriptures the bible contains were not written at once and were not even written intending to be placed into one book we call the bible. That's why they are called books eg., the book of Job, the book of John, the book of revelations, ect. They just were all put into one book we call the bible, the bible is merely filled with different epistles and books.

And not blind to any facts. Heck there isn't even "Fact" on how the world came about. It is a bunch of theories. And a theory is nothing more then an educated guess. And since you like getting into "science", there is even scientific proof the world could have been flooded at one point. They say could have been, just because again science doesn't know everything, most of it is theories which again is nothing more then an educated guess. But enough of the science talk, this is not the forum for it. And possibly could get the thread locked or deleted if that form of talk continues.

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Thu 01/03/13 09:07 AM



but anywho!....,

Evil was created by man and our undeveloped brain and emotions with a little bit of the crazy part in all our minds scientifically. Just some choose to express it... maybe?

Evil is the fault in our creation because nobody can control ones mind and devolopment of the brain unless they do it like brain wash like a religion or government! :p




One has total control over their thoughts, over one's mind, what are you talking about?


wtf are u talking about, humans are weak and u think everyone really contols there minds? people are crazy even if it doesnt seem like it. ok then tell me why those crazy people say someone told them.. wtf is that then? aparently u dont know science and are blind to things... mental health is getting worse like things in the world alter thought maybe and confuses people and all that junk can create an evil person... also the more u see things in life also alters thinking and all that junk... think u should think outside the box and relize science and life more maybe get out more in life and talk to all types of different people then u can clearly see the thoughts of these types of people and see the evil in there minds and see what controls it? lol idk ur answers seem so blind.. not sure if i said correctly but im sure u get the point..


That's alright, science is blind and ever changing. The "knowledge" science possess today is not the same as yesterday because of things they found faulty in the original "knowledge".

If science knew everything, it wouldn't change over time. It wouldn't say this then later on down the road say that.

The scriptures have always been the same and always will be the same.

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Thu 01/03/13 09:13 AM










aed to be said to this is...

Believe in a God not the bible.. it only makes sense...

how can one believe a bible that has so much proven stupidness to it?


Nothing in the bible has been proven to be "stupid". The things said in the bible can be backed by third party none religious sources.

And anyways "stupid" used in this context is purely a perspective, which you are totally entitled to.

And yes the key is to believe in God and not specifically the bible. The bible is merely knowledge, it isn't something divine so to speak, the bible can not save your soul.


so its for people who need "inspiring" words?

yeah but what about all the bs they didnt put in the bible... where did that nonesense come from?

i heard jesus was a bad child? didnt he kill a kid for scuffin his shoes or make another guy turn into something? until i think his parents and some guy told him to stop...? also wasnt there dragons supposably seen in the caves with him as a child? there has to be somewhere this junk comes from and i thought was taken out of the bible or these words were in some book from back then...? but also what are ur proven facts the bible is "true"?


I think you may have some beliefs mixed up.

Jesus was never a bad child, he actually starting preaching as a child. He didn't kill anyone. And he didn't have "parents" in the fashion you're presenting it. Jesus didn't have a mortal dad/father. His mother was the virgin Marry which conceived Jesus through the Holy Spirit. There wasn't any dragons either.

There are many different third party sources for the things that are recorded in the bible.

Nothing ever proves anything to be "true" in that exact context. Heck if I didn't want to believe the world was round, there's absolutely nothing you could show me to prove it's round. That little bit of fact applies to any and all knowledge.

And no, it's not specifically just for inspiring words. It is merely knowledge. That is it. Knowledge of past events, prophecies of the future, and God's laws.


im sure its written like ur 3rd patys wrote... have u ever reaserched what they have taken out of the bible... what do u say about all that junk? it was written too... it just sounds like a bunch of authors editing stuff so it seems right or legit sounding so they can benifit or not loose believers. and im talking about "guardians" he had.

prove the world is round... u serious.. bad example dude lmao u dont know science or what? :p

are u sure they are gods laws? im sure people have altered to benifit them.. and like i say look to the past religion is only power and has been built because of kings and that junk.. cause how can u rule without some way of getting followers...

u should research more.... maybe?




Aye, but even with "researching" it, in my mind I could always keep a state of mind they are biased in what they say about their facts they present. It could all be made up. Again, not debating weather the world is round or not, cause it is lol. Just an example of what I'm saying. It only becomes fact or true when one accepts what they are presented.

And it's not humanly possible to put all the scriptures/knowledge we have on God into one book. If they did accomplish that, a person would not be able to carry it, for it would be way to big and way to heavy.

So they only included the information on things that applied to our salvation rather then including all the different knowledge of history and or things that happened.


they are written just like ur bible and why would they take out bs and u would still believe only what they decide to put in the bible?...

idk if that makes sense dude so ur saying udk if the **** they write is true but u will still read and follow it? and ur saying who cares about the other history leading up the the "salvation book"?

maybe out of the fear of being judged wrong or something?


Judged being wrong? By who? I truly don't give a flying monkey what anyone in this world thinks of me.

They didn't take out anything, the other books can be read if you wish to read them. They aren't hiding the other books. The bible is ment to be able to carry around with you. And again, if all the scriptures were included, the book would be to heavy to carry. The bible is ment for easy mobility of the scriptures for the general use. Now again, if you wish to read up on the other books, they can be found. Either on the net, through books stores, possibly the library, or any number of places.

What is included in the bible are the scriptures on salvation, and the history that lead up to it. Again, any further in depth knowledge one wishes to have on it, can be found if they look for it.


in fear of hell or whatever reason u read and follow it...seriously? lol u dont read these posts very clearly or correctly.. it kinda shows in ur reponses... u need to think outside the box and question because im almost guarantee things u know can be questioned.. u can see in the way u write u seem blindish to some facts or dont want to believe them because of ur beliefs?

yes they did dude... u should know since u seem to think u know all about it but failed to answer some of my questions out of reaserch for urselve and ur knowledge u know now about it and it doesnt matter u shouldnt read just certain parts then why make a bible in the first place if its not meant to be all read... so all that other junk doesnt matter? so was the bible for marketing and cash for a religion power? lol



Fear of hell? Who has fear of hell? What are you talking about?

Marketing and cash for a religion power? Wow, that's way out there. The entire bible is ment to be read, I never said it wasn't. That's why the scriptures are included in the bible, for the general people to read.

The things written in the bible and or the scriptures the bible contains were not written at once and were not even written intending to be placed into one book we call the bible. That's why they are called books eg., the book of Job, the book of John, the book of revelations, ect. They just were all put into one book we call the bible, the bible is merely filled with different epistles and books.

And not blind to any facts. Heck there isn't even "Fact" on how the world came about. It is a bunch of theories. And a theory is nothing more then an educated guess. And since you like getting into "science", there is even scientific proof the world could have been flooded at one point. They say could have been, just because again science doesn't know everything, most of it is theories which again is nothing more then an educated guess. But enough of the science talk, this is not the forum for it. And possibly could get the thread locked or deleted if that form of talk continues.


lol omgoodness dude just stop ur funny u really dont understand words do u?

u miss take stuff just stop lol ur just saying stuff just to say it or something and not even giving answers or smart or factual input to what one has to say or something idk seems like u just revert into something else or add other junk!.... dude like seriously u didnt even get what i said last.... i even tryed to explain it but u take **** so "literally" or whatever and dont get it...

back to Eeeeeevviiiil!! lmao but i think this was answered kinda


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Thu 01/03/13 09:16 AM











aed to be said to this is...

Believe in a God not the bible.. it only makes sense...

how can one believe a bible that has so much proven stupidness to it?


Nothing in the bible has been proven to be "stupid". The things said in the bible can be backed by third party none religious sources.

And anyways "stupid" used in this context is purely a perspective, which you are totally entitled to.

And yes the key is to believe in God and not specifically the bible. The bible is merely knowledge, it isn't something divine so to speak, the bible can not save your soul.


so its for people who need "inspiring" words?

yeah but what about all the bs they didnt put in the bible... where did that nonesense come from?

i heard jesus was a bad child? didnt he kill a kid for scuffin his shoes or make another guy turn into something? until i think his parents and some guy told him to stop...? also wasnt there dragons supposably seen in the caves with him as a child? there has to be somewhere this junk comes from and i thought was taken out of the bible or these words were in some book from back then...? but also what are ur proven facts the bible is "true"?


I think you may have some beliefs mixed up.

Jesus was never a bad child, he actually starting preaching as a child. He didn't kill anyone. And he didn't have "parents" in the fashion you're presenting it. Jesus didn't have a mortal dad/father. His mother was the virgin Marry which conceived Jesus through the Holy Spirit. There wasn't any dragons either.

There are many different third party sources for the things that are recorded in the bible.

Nothing ever proves anything to be "true" in that exact context. Heck if I didn't want to believe the world was round, there's absolutely nothing you could show me to prove it's round. That little bit of fact applies to any and all knowledge.

And no, it's not specifically just for inspiring words. It is merely knowledge. That is it. Knowledge of past events, prophecies of the future, and God's laws.


im sure its written like ur 3rd patys wrote... have u ever reaserched what they have taken out of the bible... what do u say about all that junk? it was written too... it just sounds like a bunch of authors editing stuff so it seems right or legit sounding so they can benifit or not loose believers. and im talking about "guardians" he had.

prove the world is round... u serious.. bad example dude lmao u dont know science or what? :p

are u sure they are gods laws? im sure people have altered to benifit them.. and like i say look to the past religion is only power and has been built because of kings and that junk.. cause how can u rule without some way of getting followers...

u should research more.... maybe?




Aye, but even with "researching" it, in my mind I could always keep a state of mind they are biased in what they say about their facts they present. It could all be made up. Again, not debating weather the world is round or not, cause it is lol. Just an example of what I'm saying. It only becomes fact or true when one accepts what they are presented.

And it's not humanly possible to put all the scriptures/knowledge we have on God into one book. If they did accomplish that, a person would not be able to carry it, for it would be way to big and way to heavy.

So they only included the information on things that applied to our salvation rather then including all the different knowledge of history and or things that happened.


they are written just like ur bible and why would they take out bs and u would still believe only what they decide to put in the bible?...

idk if that makes sense dude so ur saying udk if the **** they write is true but u will still read and follow it? and ur saying who cares about the other history leading up the the "salvation book"?

maybe out of the fear of being judged wrong or something?


Judged being wrong? By who? I truly don't give a flying monkey what anyone in this world thinks of me.

They didn't take out anything, the other books can be read if you wish to read them. They aren't hiding the other books. The bible is ment to be able to carry around with you. And again, if all the scriptures were included, the book would be to heavy to carry. The bible is ment for easy mobility of the scriptures for the general use. Now again, if you wish to read up on the other books, they can be found. Either on the net, through books stores, possibly the library, or any number of places.

What is included in the bible are the scriptures on salvation, and the history that lead up to it. Again, any further in depth knowledge one wishes to have on it, can be found if they look for it.


in fear of hell or whatever reason u read and follow it...seriously? lol u dont read these posts very clearly or correctly.. it kinda shows in ur reponses... u need to think outside the box and question because im almost guarantee things u know can be questioned.. u can see in the way u write u seem blindish to some facts or dont want to believe them because of ur beliefs?

yes they did dude... u should know since u seem to think u know all about it but failed to answer some of my questions out of reaserch for urselve and ur knowledge u know now about it and it doesnt matter u shouldnt read just certain parts then why make a bible in the first place if its not meant to be all read... so all that other junk doesnt matter? so was the bible for marketing and cash for a religion power? lol



Fear of hell? Who has fear of hell? What are you talking about?

Marketing and cash for a religion power? Wow, that's way out there. The entire bible is ment to be read, I never said it wasn't. That's why the scriptures are included in the bible, for the general people to read.

The things written in the bible and or the scriptures the bible contains were not written at once and were not even written intending to be placed into one book we call the bible. That's why they are called books eg., the book of Job, the book of John, the book of revelations, ect. They just were all put into one book we call the bible, the bible is merely filled with different epistles and books.

And not blind to any facts. Heck there isn't even "Fact" on how the world came about. It is a bunch of theories. And a theory is nothing more then an educated guess. And since you like getting into "science", there is even scientific proof the world could have been flooded at one point. They say could have been, just because again science doesn't know everything, most of it is theories which again is nothing more then an educated guess. But enough of the science talk, this is not the forum for it. And possibly could get the thread locked or deleted if that form of talk continues.


lol omgoodness dude just stop ur funny u really dont understand words do u?

u miss take stuff just stop lol ur just saying stuff just to say it or something and not even giving answers or smart or factual input to what one has to say or something idk seems like u just revert into something else or add other junk!.... dude like seriously u didnt even get what i said last.... i even tryed to explain it but u take **** so "literally" or whatever and dont get it...

back to Eeeeeevviiiil!! lmao but i think this was answered kinda




Then please elaborate.