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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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If you believe that the Higgs Boson for this reality has been found and is the one that shows Higgs Boson with a mass of 123.5 GeV (gigaelectron volts, the measuring unit that particle physicists most often use for mass) then does that mean we may have detected an alternate reality because a second Higgs boson has been discovered? Another Higgs boson has been found at 126.6 GeV—a statistically significant difference of nearly 3 GeV. Apparently, the Atlas scientists have spent the past month trying to figure out if they could be making a mistake in the data analysis, to little avail. Might there be two Higgs bosons? (Might they have discovered that there are two realities existing side by side?) Have Scientists Found 2 Different Higgs Bosons? http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/12/14/have-scientists-found-two-different-higgs-bosons/ |
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Scientists at Cern who successfully found the Higgs Boson particle earlier this year might have accidentally found two.
According to data just released by researchers working at the Atlas and Large Hadron Collider experiments, there seem to be two Higgs Boson particles with extremely similar, but different, mass. The results - which are intriguing although unconfirmed - have emerged out of an oddity in the original data which showed the particle, which put simply 'gives mass' to other particles, decaying into two photons more often than it should. That data was studied in more detail, and the result seems to be that there really are two 'peaks' in the results, instead of just one. Read the rest of the article: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/17/cern-higgs-boson-two-discovered-large-hadron-collider-atlas_n_2314537.html |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sun 12/30/12 12:50 PM
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If the Higgs Boson we call the "God Particle" is the ultimate underlying basic structure of mass that makes up this universe, then what universe does the other Higgs Boson represent?
Or are there actually (material) things existing in this world that we cannot detect? Or is another universe or reality beginning to manifest as so many "nut case spiritualist and cults" have been claiming? Or do two parallel universes exist side by side in the same place? Is this matter detectable to us or not? They keep rechecking to see if they can find an error but this other Higgs Boson particle keeps showing up. Very interesting.  |
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"As a result, it's still possible that the results indicate a problem with the experiment, and not interesting physics at all.
Physicist Adam Falkowski wrote on his blog: "In this case they most likely signal a systematic problem rather than some interesting physics. First and least, it would be quite a coincidence to have two Higgs particles so close in mass." The researchers are still trying to find out what the cause of the strange results really is - but for now the possibility remains that the universe might still be even more ridiculous than it already appears to be." (They have no idea) Welcome to the next reality. LOL  |
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Maybe the Higgs Boson resonates between the two masses, stranger things have happened.
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Maybe the Higgs Boson resonates between the two masses, stranger things have happened. ...thus explaining why one minute you will see a UFO and the next minute POOF!.. its gone? |
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Sure, why not?
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Sure, why not? Works for me.... 
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I'm going to need a physicist degree to understand what your talking about. hehe and I consider myself educated..
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I'm going to need a physicist degree to understand what your talking about. hehe and I consider myself educated.. The elusive Higgs Boson is supposed to be the atomic superglue that holds everything together. Scientists are just now closing in on it. My statement is why can't it have a resonating property....so it fits as needed. Interesting stuff if you read on it. |
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 I will have to do some checking on this issue. 
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I do not believe the L.H.C was built to find anything.... I believe it was built to manufacture something...
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I do not believe the L.H.C was built to find anything.... I believe it was built to manufacture something... I think it was an excuse to extract more money from the system to use it for some evil purpose. I don't think they ever found the Higgs Boson. They just found more questions. |
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Aye,there's the rub darling.
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You posted that they "have no idea.". Actually, if you read the article you posted, they have a very good idea. What science writers don't understand is that there is a reason Cern doesn't publish this type of data.
All massed particles gain or lose mass with energy. E=MCsquared. The very process of mass annihilation used to create the experiment in the first place apply to the results of the experiment also. In the process of creation of a pool of massless energy from which massed and massless particles coalesce, impartment occurs which changes the mass of all massed particles if they are in the wrong spot at the wrong time. Remember that massless particles are created with velocity but massed particle's velocity is defined by their mass and quantum effects set the creation location in random fashion. Over time (a very small amount) the massed particles gain or lose energy and exit the detection device. Since the Higgs is a transition particle they only have a brief moment to observe it to calculate the mass in combination with the masses of the other particles. There will be a statistical variation depending upon who bumped into who and imparted x amount of energy. They also do not fully understand the decay process of the Higgs which is what the whole experiment is about in the first place. There could be a "set point" for the release of an additional photon as there is in normal mass. This process is what allows us to create photons of any energy level and frequency. Repetition of the Atlas experiment will tell if the Higgs is sometimes "hot", "cold", or in transition of photon creation. A second universe doesn't have anything to do with the data present but has more to do with the how gravity is anchored to this universe. See "M Theory" and closed verses open strings. |
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You posted that they "have no idea.". Actually, if you read the article you posted, they have a very good idea. What science writers don't understand is that there is a reason Cern doesn't publish this type of data. All massed particles gain or lose mass with energy. E=MCsquared. The very process of mass annihilation used to create the experiment in the first place apply to the results of the experiment also. In the process of creation of a pool of massless energy from which massed and massless particles coalesce, impartment occurs which changes the mass of all massed particles if they are in the wrong spot at the wrong time. Remember that massless particles are created with velocity but massed particle's velocity is defined by their mass and quantum effects set the creation location in random fashion. Over time (a very small amount) the massed particles gain or lose energy and exit the detection device. Since the Higgs is a transition particle they only have a brief moment to observe it to calculate the mass in combination with the masses of the other particles. There will be a statistical variation depending upon who bumped into who and imparted x amount of energy. They also do not fully understand the decay process of the Higgs which is what the whole experiment is about in the first place. There could be a "set point" for the release of an additional photon as there is in normal mass. This process is what allows us to create photons of any energy level and frequency. Repetition of the Atlas experiment will tell if the Higgs is sometimes "hot", "cold", or in transition of photon creation. A second universe doesn't have anything to do with the data present but has more to do with the how gravity is anchored to this universe. See "M Theory" and closed verses open strings. Very interesting. Thanks. |
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"As a result, it's still possible that the results indicate a problem with the experiment, and not interesting physics at all. Physicist Adam Falkowski wrote on his blog: "In this case they most likely signal a systematic problem rather than some interesting physics. First and least, it would be quite a coincidence to have two Higgs particles so close in mass." The researchers are still trying to find out what the cause of the strange results really is - but for now the possibility remains that the universe might still be even more ridiculous than it already appears to be." (They have no idea) Welcome to the next reality. LOL  Is that at your house? |
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"As a result, it's still possible that the results indicate a problem with the experiment, and not interesting physics at all. Physicist Adam Falkowski wrote on his blog: "In this case they most likely signal a systematic problem rather than some interesting physics. First and least, it would be quite a coincidence to have two Higgs particles so close in mass." The researchers are still trying to find out what the cause of the strange results really is - but for now the possibility remains that the universe might still be even more ridiculous than it already appears to be." (They have no idea) Welcome to the next reality. LOL Is that at your house? NO. |
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Will the Real God-Particle stand up!
 Those Scientists must be starting to feel like the Sorcerer's Apprentice by now! 
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Will the Real God-Particle stand up! Those Scientists must be starting to feel like the Sorcerer's Apprentice by now! I believe they are seeing things and hoping they found what they are looking for in order to justify their jobs and spending ridiculous amounts of money on that particle accelerator. I also think it was a big waste of money, but that's what they love to do, waste people's money. |
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