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Topic: How Obama Could Stop Those Israeli Settlements
s1owhand's photo
Fri 12/07/12 12:09 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 12/07/12 12:09 PM

Like I asked before of the OP. What have you got against Jews?


I'm not the OP... But I'll gladly answer.

1) Israel is a expansionist entity that encroaches on Arab land by military means and settlement activity... This is NOT internationally recognized nor legal.

2) The Israeli economy is based on War... Industries & population donate extreme amounts of money to the cause. A booming economy in a financially desperate area of the globe. Sound normal? plz don't give me BS that Israelis are real hard workers laugh Yea I'll call them "ROGUE" if they refuse to sign the NPT.

3) The military style expulsion of civilians is unacceptable... The Jews know this first hand.

4) The unrelenting Israeli lobby in the US has taken over. Much of US foreign policies aren't even decided in the states laugh Until Obama?

5) They are just as fanatically religious as their adversaries... Don't kid yourself.

6) The Jews had militias in the past... Why do they call resistance>>> Terrorist now? Their spy agency "Mossad" thinks nothing of assassinating people abroad... This fact, makes us all a potential target to the whims of the Israeli military.




As a side note... The land allocated to Israeli settlements should not have been in an area where fighting has been going on for thousands of years... over the same chit over and over.
North Dakota would have been more suitable I say! winking drinker


Nothing against the Jews... Everything against Israel. 39 governments since It's birth... Do the math, there can NEVER be stability there!

EDIT*

No not North Dakota!!!!.... We're gonna need a buffer zone so South Dakota then! drinker




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1. Israel never attacked anyone trying to acquire someone else's land.
Palestinians and Arabs repeatedly attack Israel to try to take Israeli land.

2. Israel never expelled the Palestinians. Palestinians left various
areas out of fear of being caught up in fighting when neighboring
Arab/Palestinian militaries attacked Israel. There were Arabic
publications and broadcasts coming from the attacking Arab armies
warning them to leave also.

3. Israel has a thriving economy and lead the region in agriculture,
economics, medicine and arts. In fact, they have some of the best
innovations in the world in multiple areas not related to conflict
at all.

4. Israel does not have undue influence in the USA - we make our own
policies based on our own national interests.

5. Jews of Israel are not trying to attack or convert anybody. They
just wish to be left alone to practice their own religion in peace.

6. Israel military has never had a policy of targeting civilians.
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah etc. have an explicit policy of
trying to kill as many men, women and children as possible on
purpose with every attack.

That was easy - cleared it all up succinctly.


AndyBgood's photo
Fri 12/07/12 12:28 PM

Like I asked before of the OP. What have you got against Jews?


I'm not the OP... But I'll gladly answer.

1) Israel is a expansionist entity that encroaches on Arab land by military means and settlement activity... This is NOT internationally recognized nor legal.

2) The Israeli economy is based on War... Industries & population donate extreme amounts of money to the cause. A booming economy in a financially desperate area of the globe. Sound normal? plz don't give me BS that Israelis are real hard workers laugh Yea I'll call them "ROGUE" if they refuse to sign the NPT.

3) The military style expulsion of civilians is unacceptable... The Jews know this first hand.

4) The unrelenting Israeli lobby in the US has taken over. Much of US foreign policies aren't even decided in the states laugh Until Obama?

5) They are just as fanatically religious as their adversaries... Don't kid yourself.

6) The Jews had militias in the past... Why do they call resistance>>> Terrorist now? Their spy agency "Mossad" thinks nothing of assassinating people abroad... This fact, makes us all a potential target to the whims of the Israeli military.




As a side note... The land allocated to Israeli settlements should not have been in an area where fighting has been going on for thousands of years... over the same chit over and over.
North Dakota would have been more suitable I say! winking drinker


Nothing against the Jews... Everything against Israel. 39 governments since It's birth... Do the math, there can NEVER be stability there!

EDIT*

No not North Dakota!!!!.... We're gonna need a buffer zone so South Dakota then! drinker




Like America is not engaged in any of the afore mentioned activities? We change policies every 4 to 8 years with each president. Drone planes or Secret agents? Any of us are potential targets? I sure don't piss on their lawn!

Now about Israel encroaching on Arab land. technically if you wish to get historic The Jews had claim to the WHOLE area including the Saini, most of what we now call Saudi Arabia, parts of Ethiopia and Somalia, Jordan, Lebanon, and SYRIA was once Judea! And as far as Israel's expansion goes both the GAZA and WEST BANK WERE USED TO INSTALL ARTILLERY WHERE ISRAEL GOT SHELLED! Oh but you forgot that conveniently. Likewise there are the number of settlements taken out by Israel itself only to have attacks staged from those very areas!

Easy for you to say how evil they are when they ion fact are surrounded by wolves. Do you HONESTLY THINK Arabs have our best interests at heart? Do you even know any REAL Arabs? I know fact DO! They are stunned I know more about their culture than the Average American. Enough actually I understand them decently enough. I DO get along with anyone who offers me basic respect. But even they confirm the world of the Islamic Arab is not one that should be trusted. They are LIARS according to the very people that lived and came from there!

So have you even spent real time living there? I will admit I have not but having past girl FRIENDS (in the plural) who are Jewish I get a good cross section of information from people who live there. Likewise I know Syrians and Palestinians whop left their nations because of their own people and their own homeland's intolerance and stupidity.

I am sorry but your whole argument here is a total "MIRROR MIRROR," where you see them doing it but refuse to see the USA doing it.

Again, what is the difference using drones or agents to assassinate people?

And an Unrelenting lobby taking over? So what of the Labor unions here? How about the Healthcare and insurance industries? How about CHINA?

so in closing,


REALLY?spock

Your argument is rather hollow...

So do you think Islam is our ally?

adj4u's photo
Fri 12/07/12 02:13 PM


ironic is it not that invading forces attack isreal

and

when they lose the war (thus territory they invaded from)

then after the thing ends they want the land back


sounds like kids in the united states (they do not expect consequences
for their action*)


*well not all kids put some adults as well


maybe they should have fired that nuk in 67 then the land wouldnt be
worth fighting over

just a thought but hey what do i know





dislike being on bottom of page lol

AndyBgood's photo
Fri 12/07/12 08:18 PM
Bump!




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Now I am at the bottom of the page.





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no photo
Mon 12/10/12 01:39 PM
Edited by JOHNN111 on Mon 12/10/12 01:47 PM
Like America is not engaged in any of the afore mentioned activities? We change policies every 4 to 8 years with each president.


Dude, I'm Canadian, you think I don't know what the US government does on a regular basis? Israeli's change their policies every 2 years? laugh or whenever the wind blows in the favor of breaking agreements?

The Jews had claim to the WHOLE area including the Saini,


You're serious when you say this?... Wouldn't it be safer to call it co-existence with Arabs? laugh


Do you even know any REAL Arabs?


Ahaha! Too funny! I'm surrounded by them actually... Them and Jews and Greeks and Chinese and Russians and South Americans and Italians and Spanish and Portuguese, Americans too!... List is too long, get my drift? Calling Arabs liars seems very unworldly to me... You have traveled outside of your country right? If not, WTF are you saying?rofl They lie more than Russians or Indians? More than anyone?

but having past girl FRIENDS (in the plural) who are Jewish


This "goy" slapped some Israeli azz... Her father tried using the finger pointed at his head making popping sounds at me... Like all Israelis, they think they can intimidate with violence. Truth is, fear will ALWAYS be overcome eventually Andy... Especially for decent puzzy smokin


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Noted and registered mate... don't make me!









AndyBgood's photo
Mon 12/10/12 03:28 PM

Like America is not engaged in any of the afore mentioned activities? We change policies every 4 to 8 years with each president.


Dude, I'm Canadian, you think I don't know what the US government does on a regular basis? Israeli's change their policies every 2 years? laugh or whenever the wind blows in the favor of breaking agreements?

The Jews had claim to the WHOLE area including the Saini,


You're serious when you say this?... Wouldn't it be safer to call it co-existence with Arabs? laugh


Do you even know any REAL Arabs?


Ahaha! Too funny! I'm surrounded by them actually... Them and Jews and Greeks and Chinese and Russians and South Americans and Italians and Spanish and Portuguese, Americans too!... List is too long, get my drift? Calling Arabs liars seems very unworldly to me... You have traveled outside of your country right? If not, WTF are you saying?rofl They lie more than Russians or Indians? More than anyone?

but having past girl FRIENDS (in the plural) who are Jewish


This "goy" slapped some Israeli azz... Her father tried using the finger pointed at his head making popping sounds at me... Like all Israelis, they think they can intimidate with violence. Truth is, fear will ALWAYS be overcome eventually Andy... Especially for decent puzzy smokin


.exe?

Noted and registered mate... don't make me!




Good fro you, You are Canadian. I am a Californian American. I live a nightmare you could only imagine. I am sure there is your share of gang violence but I look over my shoulder in some neighborhoods here. With that aside I too have slapped my share of French and Israeli backside too. I was never threatened. And I was up front with all of them about my being Goyum as well. My best friend is Trini and his neighbor IS FROM SAUDI ARABIA ARABS while his next neighbor is Husband Japanese, Wife and M In Law Korean. This does not discount the Pakistani family that owns a restaurant I go to once in a while. I mean I too could go on about my associations. But this gets better. I don't just read books. I talk to the people who live in these areas. Hell, another friend of mine has a hair dresser who is not only GAY but SYRIAN and FROM SYRIA and she (he) has a lot of very unflattering stuff to say about the lack of tolerance not only in Syria but the area in General. She was tolerated FAR BETTER by JEWS IN ISRAEL than she was in her own country! My best friend's neighbor not only confirmed lot of what I was told by other Arabs but they fled Saudi Arabia because they are Christian! Born and raised Saudi. But Christian. And they have their share of bad things to say about Islam and their treatment of women considering his monterh is Divorced.

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 12/10/12 03:58 PM

Like America is not engaged in any of the afore mentioned activities? We change policies every 4 to 8 years with each president.


Dude, I'm Canadian, you think I don't know what the US government does on a regular basis? Israeli's change their policies every 2 years? laugh or whenever the wind blows in the favor of breaking agreements?

The Jews had claim to the WHOLE area including the Saini,


You're serious when you say this?... Wouldn't it be safer to call it co-existence with Arabs? laugh


Do you even know any REAL Arabs?


Ahaha! Too funny! I'm surrounded by them actually... Them and Jews and Greeks and Chinese and Russians and South Americans and Italians and Spanish and Portuguese, Americans too!... List is too long, get my drift? Calling Arabs liars seems very unworldly to me... You have traveled outside of your country right? If not, WTF are you saying?rofl They lie more than Russians or Indians? More than anyone?

but having past girl FRIENDS (in the plural) who are Jewish


This "goy" slapped some Israeli azz... Her father tried using the finger pointed at his head making popping sounds at me... Like all Israelis, they think they can intimidate with violence. Truth is, fear will ALWAYS be overcome eventually Andy... Especially for decent puzzy smokin


.exe?

Noted and registered mate... don't make me!




Good fro you, You are Canadian. I am a Californian American. I live a nightmare you could only imagine. I am sure there is your share of gang violence but I look over my shoulder in some neighborhoods here. With that aside I too have slapped my share of French and Israeli backside too. I was never threatened. And I was up front with all of them about my being Goyum as well. My best friend is Trini and his neighbor IS FROM SAUDI ARABIA ARABS while his next neighbor is Husband Japanese, Wife and M In Law Korean. This does not discount the Pakistani family that owns a restaurant I go to once in a while. I mean I too could go on about my associations. But this gets better. I don't just read books. I talk to the people who live in these areas. Hell, another friend of mine has a hair dresser who is not only GAY but SYRIAN and FROM SYRIA and she (he) has a lot of very unflattering stuff to say about the lack of tolerance not only in Syria but the area in General. She was tolerated FAR BETTER by JEWS IN ISRAEL than she was in her own country! My best friend's neighbor not only confirmed lot of what I was told by other Arabs but they fled Saudi Arabia because they are Christian! Born and raised Saudi. But Christian. And they have their share of bad things to say about Islam and their treatment of women considering his mother is Divorced.

The Arab culture takes lying to a whole new extreme. When arguing with an Arab you MUST leave them wiggle room to back out of a lie they are caught in because they will get violent. The VERY QUR'AN HAS A WHOLE LIST OF CONDUCT PERTAINING TO LYING. SHALL I ELABORATE ON THIS WITH QUOTES? AGAIN, I know you have been in other topics pertaining to Islam. But I will do what I need to AGAIN just in case. I can't call someone a liar when it is more so a part of their culture than it is in mine. I was beaten to get it in my head lying is a sin!

And I CAN INDEED QUALIFY MY QUESTIONING YOU KNOWING OTHER CULTURES BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA IF YOU LIVE IN A PODUNK BACK WATER LOST IN TIME SMALL TOWN OR A CITY. I have seen my share of cultural ignorance and insensitivity to go round.

I evaluate all people on who they are and where they stand. Disagree with me but respect me and my right to exist we can be friends. I don't like homogeneity (NOT PERTAINING TO A SEXUAL PREFERENCE!!! JIC...) and I don't like it when people agree with me all the time. If I am wrong I admit it openly and will account for my faults. So what? I cite a shortcoming of a culture and I am a racist maybe?

Now here is a good question, a man threatens to shoot you you act intimidated? Not me. I am in head busting mode right there with the insinuation. I am not about to let some coward shoot me in the back. And I had past GFs get scared as hell of me because of how nasty I get when threatened. If you are involved with a woman who has a daddy who is that control hungry you are involved with the wrong woman. I think I am pretty clear I would rather shove a screwdriver or any pointy object available through their head rather than put up with even the thought they will make good on a threat like that.

The thing is I never had an Israeli or Jew for that matter ever threaten violence against me. For the most part it is always some belligerent azzhole of any color that has to try to be intimidating and they have to find out the hard way some of us don't play. You think that violent threats are indicative of any particular people?

You think a pissed off Daddy is something? Try dealing with a pissed off Vato some time! they talk about shooting they DO start shooting!

believe me, Canada is a far more functional country than America. It was founded by criminals and run by criminals. Some wear suits, some uniforms.

I never said I walk on water. I don't I keep falling in. But I do have an education. I do know what is right and what is wrong. And I know I don't have a perfect answer to the problems we face but one issue I really do have is all this cultural sensitivity crap we are spoon fed here. Like they say in Australia mate, Naturalize or leave!

AND YES I HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE OF THE US, I USED TO DO VOLUNTEER WORK FOR CHORIZONE FOUNDATION IN MEXICO and have visited Quebec. I believe it is called Fort Lennox. I had to delay plans but I got a trip to Trinidad coming up too! So I have been outside of America. Not as much as I would like but that will be changing soon. I likewise want to go fishing in the Great Slave lake! Friends of mine who have gone said the fishing there is all that!

Speaking of national Policy changes... Look at how fast Obama changes his mind. I think a car going from 0 to 60 MPH is slower than Obama.

metalwing's photo
Mon 12/10/12 04:01 PM
Soooo........ what we need is another Arab country to vote in the UN and get foreign aid and run by Hamas?

Right.

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Tue 12/11/12 12:08 PM
Here's my point, I was a moderate but threads here have turned me into a rabid anti-Israeli... IMO, A religious freak is a religious freak, one is armed to the T!ts and the other, throws rocks with a sling. One is afraid, the other is dying. One gets 30-50 billion a year, the other is lucky to get a bologna sammich.

I'm fed up of the lopsided(ness) and you should be too. America should step away from Israel and watch true peace unfold. Israel is acting like a spoiled child with all the best, biggest toys. You understand this right Andy? You don't come across as a spoiled lil biatch so I'm sure we're connecting on this level. Cheers!


PS: about the ol man, He was 60yrs of age. There's no way I'd suplex him for that... I dated his daughter, he didn't like it, tough for him!

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Tue 12/11/12 12:18 PM

Soooo........ what we need is another Arab country to vote in the UN and get foreign aid and run by Hamas?

Right.


Nope... What we need is America's war mongers to back the F off before something nasty happens!

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Tue 12/11/12 12:47 PM

Here's my point, I was a moderate but threads here have turned me into a rabid anti-Israeli... IMO, A religious freak is a religious freak, one is armed to the T!ts and the other, throws rocks with a sling. One is afraid, the other is dying. One gets 30-50 billion a year, the other is lucky to get a bologna sammich.

I'm fed up of the lopsided(ness) and you should be too. America should step away from Israel and watch true peace unfold. Israel is acting like a spoiled child with all the best, biggest toys. You understand this right Andy? You don't come across as a spoiled lil biatch so I'm sure we're connecting on this level. Cheers!


PS: about the ol man, He was 60yrs of age. There's no way I'd suplex him for that... I dated his daughter, he didn't like it, tough for him!
Amen brother......

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