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Topic: Is the our universe a simulation?
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Fri 02/15/13 11:45 AM
For those people who always ask: Can it be proven?...

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It will be considerably more difficult to prove that intelligence-consciousness forms a common bond with matter-energy and space-time for the following reasons. Most scientists are searching for an explanation of our physical existence that incorporates only matter-energy and space-time and many of them also believe that intelligence-consciousness is an epiphenomenon that occurred by chance, playing no role in the direction of the evolutionary process. This bias will slow the recognition of the interdependence of these properties.

The evidence to date is insufficient to prove that the universe is comprised of only one basic substance as here suggested. Nevertheless, in the interest of sketching out the ramifications of the theory in full, it should be stated here that the theory does lead to such an eventual prediction.

The nature of consciousness has yet to be defined in modern terms even though a great deal of time and effort has been devoted to this endeavor, particularly over the last several decades. The question as to its origin and significance dates back to antiquity but only recently have we gained enough understanding as to its place within the usual scheme of things, to begin to unravel this mystery. It is my current belief that we must begin with one of two choices. It would appear that consciousness must either be a primary property of the universe being present at the beginning or developed later as an epiphenomenon. If one were to poll most scientists I would guess that the majority would side with those individuals who believe consciousness to be an epiphenomenon. Most research scientists who have devoted themselves to the study of the mind-brain believe consciousness to be an epiphenomenon of the electrochemical events occurring within the brain. There is simply no question that consciousness is heavily influenced by these electrochemical events but it is also most doubtful that they are the cause of consciousness.

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I found this just today, I find it very in line with my hypothesis.

http://www.supraconsciousnessnetwork.org/

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Fri 02/15/13 02:25 PM
I've been thinking more about the word "emerge."

Have you ever been to a natural spring where the purest water emerges from the earth scientists do no know from where this water comes?

There is one such spring in Washington state. There are also many pure water springs in Colorado. Water just emerges from a hole in the ground. Pure and soft water.

This water is not born or created magically. It emerges from a hole in the ground at certain places. Scientists know that it comes from the earth, they just don't a lot about where it comes from... or even why it is so pure.

When scientists say that consciousness "emerges" from matter they are actually admitting that "matter" is the conductor or door from which consciousness emerges just as the hole in the ground is the conductor or door from which water emerges. The truth is in the terminology as the true meaning of "emerge" is to rise from and become known or to "manifest."

...to rise from an obscure or inferior position or condition
...to come out into view.
...to become manifest: become known.

Einstein once spoke of the physicist David Bohm as his successor.

Bohm introduced concepts of Implicate Order and Explicate Order. Bohm defined explicate order as the order of the physical world. He defined implicate order as the source of explicate order, and as an underlying whole that physical form constantly unfolds out from and enfolds back into. Others had constructed related models of two orders, including Henri Bergson and William Yeats in the early 1900's.

Bohm meant his concepts to replace order and disorder although he was not able to convince other scientists of this necessity, and Bohm struggled with depression at not being able to convince the scientific community of the scientific value of his discoveries.






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Sat 02/16/13 12:46 AM
What about stuff like feeling hungry, needing the bathroom, crying, etc? Could even THOSE be controlled by simulation?

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Sat 02/16/13 11:36 AM

What about stuff like feeling hungry, needing the bathroom, crying, etc? Could even THOSE be controlled by simulation?


It is a biological simulation. Garbage in.... garbage out. :wink:

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Mon 02/18/13 07:08 AM
No, universe is a vast place where planets and other heavenlybody lies. Hence they only have covered a very short distance so we cannot definitely say that we can simulate the universe. There is a limitation of everything not even science can uncover that. The process in which the universe play is like a child growing up. You will never know what tomorrow comes. Only God can.

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Wed 02/20/13 09:16 AM
Universes may be finite, but existence is infinite. If this were not so, in the face of vast infinity, we would have been gone in the blink of an eye. Yet we (life) are (still) here.

Therefore, universes are replicating like fractals and the life force is infinite.

How can "nothing" exist? It can't. Therefore something must exist.

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Wed 02/20/13 09:58 AM

Universes may be finite, but existence is infinite. If this were not so, in the face of vast infinity, we would have been gone in the blink of an eye. Yet we (life) are (still) here.




it's not done blinking yet...

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Wed 02/20/13 08:22 PM
Published on Feb 6, 2013
A recent scientific study undertaken by the University of Bonn in Germany suggests that the universe could be one giant computer simulation.

Cosmic rays offer clue our universe could be a computer simulation - http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2...

'The idea we live in a simulation isn't science fiction' - http://www.newscientist.com/article/m...

The Measurement That Would Reveal The Universe As A Computer Simulation - http://www.technologyreview.com/view/...

Plato's Allegory of the Cave - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smm7E6...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l2YQCFE0N4

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Wed 02/20/13 08:33 PM

YOU ARE A SIMULATION. A film by Jeffrey Grupp, Zen Flower Radio. Bostrom'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOdOdrqGsK8

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