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SHITE! Well, you can see it here.... along with site comments http://www.dailypaul.com/256184/usa-vs-iran The photobucket link is just the .jpeg |
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Ahmadinejad Sits Down With Piers Morgan, Engages In Heated Argument Over Homosexuality , current events and other issues
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ahmadinejad-sits-down-with-piers-morgan-in-heated-argument-over-homosexuality/ |
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Edited by
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Who is actually promoting war here? Him, or others just as opinionated, but with more media and political clout? |
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Who is actually promoting war here? He, or others just as opinionated, but with more media and political clout? Well I'd say it is the one murdering innocent women and children with bus, cafe and marketplace bombings while trying to kill as many non-combatants as possible. I would say it is the one who is lying to the IAEA while building secret underground fortified nuclear processing facilities. I would say that it is the one who is threatening "Death" to other countries and denying that the Nazis committed genocide and saying that other countries should be "wiped off the face of the map". In a word, Iran. But that's just me. |
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Who is actually promoting war here? He, or others just as opinionated, but with more media and political clout? Well I'd say it is the one murdering innocent women and children with bus, cafe and marketplace bombings while trying to kill as many non-combatants as possible. I would say it is the one who is lying to the IAEA while building secret underground fortified nuclear processing facilities. I would say that it is the one who is threatening "Death" to other countries and denying that the Nazis committed genocide and saying that other countries should be "wiped off the face of the map". In a word, Iran. But that's just me. Yeah, they should be more civilized and use drones and mercenaries instead! 
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Edited by
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Israel Lobbyist suggests False Flag attack to start war with Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M84l19H68mk&feature=youtu.be Text: “I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough,” said Patrick Clawson, who also heads the Washington Institute’s Iran Security Initiative, in response to a question about what would happen if negotiations with Tehran fail. “And it’s very hard for me to see how the United States … uh … President can get us to war with Iran. "As a consequence, Clawson said he was led to conclude that “the traditional way [that] America gets to war is what would be best for US interests. "Intriguingly, he went on to recount a series of controversial incidents in American history — the attack on Pearl Harbor, the sinking of the Lusitania, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and the blowing up of the USS Maine — that US presidents “had to wait for” before taking America to war. “And may I point out that Mr. Lincoln did not feel he could call out the federal army until Fort Sumter was attacked,” Clawson continued, “which is why he ordered the commander at Fort Sumter to do exactly that thing which the South Carolinians had said would cause an attack. “So, if in fact the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, the Israel lobbyist concluded with a smirk on his face, “it would be best if somebody else started the war. "One can combine other means of pressure with sanctions. I mentioned that explosion on August 17th. We could step up the pressure. I mean look people Iranian submarines periodically go down someday one of them may not come up. Who would know why? We can do a variety of things if we wish to increase the pressure. I'm not advocating that but I'm just suggesting that ... this is not a either or proposition.... We are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier at that." |
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Who is actually promoting war here? He, or others just as opinionated, but with more media and political clout? Well I'd say it is the one murdering innocent women and children with bus, cafe and marketplace bombings while trying to kill as many non-combatants as possible. I would say it is the one who is lying to the IAEA while building secret underground fortified nuclear processing facilities. I would say that it is the one who is threatening "Death" to other countries and denying that the Nazis committed genocide and saying that other countries should be "wiped off the face of the map". In a word, Iran. But that's just me. Yeah, they should be more civilized and use drones and mercenaries instead!
The US does not sponsor terrorism but Iran DOES. Iran is widely acknowledged as one of the worst state sponsors of terrorism. If Iran weren't threatening Israel with annihilation, calling for Death for Americans and if Iran weren't racing to enrich uranium to the levels required for weapons then there would be no conflict. |
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Have to agree with Slowhand here, even though I personally think no government rule is without fault, nor without their own atrocities. (exception being New Zealand of course).
 
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Who is actually promoting war here? He, or others just as opinionated, but with more media and political clout? Well I'd say it is the one murdering innocent women and children with bus, cafe and marketplace bombings while trying to kill as many non-combatants as possible. I would say it is the one who is lying to the IAEA while building secret underground fortified nuclear processing facilities. I would say that it is the one who is threatening "Death" to other countries and denying that the Nazis committed genocide and saying that other countries should be "wiped off the face of the map". In a word, Iran. But that's just me. Yeah, they should be more civilized and use drones and mercenaries instead!
The US does not sponsor terrorism but Iran DOES. Iran is widely acknowledged as one of the worst state sponsors of terrorism. If Iran weren't threatening Israel with annihilation, calling for Death for Americans and if Iran weren't racing to enrich uranium to the levels required for weapons then there would be no conflict. If drone attacks with collateral damage of women and children, sanctions and mercenaries without gov't control, aren't "Terrorism" could you please tell me what is? These are OUR gifts of democracy we offer these nations. That's the purest definition of the pot calling the kettle black! "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO! That's terrorism, and murder when imposed, and our present foreign policy no matter how the "Religious Right" spins it! |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 09/26/12 05:28 AM
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Who is actually promoting war here? He, or others just as opinionated, but with more media and political clout? Well I'd say it is the one murdering innocent women and children with bus, cafe and marketplace bombings while trying to kill as many non-combatants as possible. I would say it is the one who is lying to the IAEA while building secret underground fortified nuclear processing facilities. I would say that it is the one who is threatening "Death" to other countries and denying that the Nazis committed genocide and saying that other countries should be "wiped off the face of the map". In a word, Iran. But that's just me. Yeah, they should be more civilized and use drones and mercenaries instead!
The US does not sponsor terrorism but Iran DOES. Iran is widely acknowledged as one of the worst state sponsors of terrorism. If Iran weren't threatening Israel with annihilation, calling for Death for Americans and if Iran weren't racing to enrich uranium to the levels required for weapons then there would be no conflict. Prove what you say, when nobody else can! The media "definition" and take on it?  How gullible!
If drone attacks with collateral damage of women and children, sanctions which hurt the people and not those in power, and mercenaries without gov't control, aren't "Terrorism" could you please tell me what is? These are OUR gifts of democracy we offer these nations. That's the purest definition of the pot calling the kettle black! "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO! That's terrorism, and murder when imposed, and our present foreign policy no matter how the "Religious Right" spins it! I forgot to mention the "Lunatic Left" that is implementing our foreign policy at present.....my bad! Now Hillary wants our guns so only the gov't and criminals will have them, leaving us without a defense against their agenda 21 and the implementation, and repercussions of it. Since when is it OK for the UN to dictate our rights and policies, or anyone elses for that matter? Powerful men/women who haven't a clue, or a care, about what is good for "common" people, which they will never even come in contact, or associate with! The "Right" is afraid of their own shadows, the "Left" wants to control it all at any cost, making friends of enemies to fight other enemies.....that can't end well in any scenario! We fight them on one continent yet call them friend and arm them on another.... you can't make this shite up....or make it work! People need to get their heads out of their collective 2 party arses, and start being human or at least humane again! Put yourself under the boot of our actions! Imagine drone strikes in your neighborhood, foreign troops patroling your streets, dictating your rights, your freedoms, and allowed by your leaders bought and paid for which they put in power! Who are the real terrorists here? Live under what you condone or allow them to impose on others, and see how that shoe fits then! There are no rights or freedoms under "democracy" imposed by tyranny, only control, and like junkies, their need for it only grows bigger! |
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Actually it's not terrorism as our purpose is not to instill fear into them. If a bully comes randomly and beats the crap out of me that isn't terrorism. It's the
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Edited by
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Actually it's not terrorism as our purpose is not to instill fear into them. If a bully comes randomly and beats the crap out of me that isn't terrorism. It's the A rose by any other name is still a rose! If I called a plate of shite a steak, would you eat it? Perhaps it used to be a steak. Would it be a lie? If the purpose of our actions is not to instill fear....please explain what it might be. War boys playing with their toys? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M84l19H68mk&feature=youtu.be |
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Edited by
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Who is actually promoting war here? He, or others just as opinionated, but with more media and political clout? Well I'd say it is the one murdering innocent women and children with bus, cafe and marketplace bombings while trying to kill as many non-combatants as possible. I would say it is the one who is lying to the IAEA while building secret underground fortified nuclear processing facilities. I would say that it is the one who is threatening "Death" to other countries and denying that the Nazis committed genocide and saying that other countries should be "wiped off the face of the map". In a word, Iran. But that's just me. Yeah, they should be more civilized and use drones and mercenaries instead!
The US does not sponsor terrorism but Iran DOES. Iran is widely acknowledged as one of the worst state sponsors of terrorism. If Iran weren't threatening Israel with annihilation, calling for Death for Americans and if Iran weren't racing to enrich uranium to the levels required for weapons then there would be no conflict. If drone attacks with collateral damage of women and children, sanctions and mercenaries without gov't control, aren't "Terrorism" could you please tell me what is? These are OUR gifts of democracy we offer these nations. That's the purest definition of the pot calling the kettle black! "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO! That's terrorism, and murder when imposed, and our present foreign policy no matter how the "Religious Right" spins it! There is a qualitative difference between warfare and terrorism. Terrorism is defined by purposefully attacking and trying to kill non-combatants. This tactic is so vile that it is considered criminal even during warfare. Yet this is the PREFERRED tactic of Iran and her terrorist proxies. That is terrorism and obviously a government which is actively supporting lethal attacks on civilians for the purpose of social change and religious coercion must never be freely allowed access to the worst weapons known to mankind which are capable of killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in an instant. It is not complicated or mysterious. This is why I would support setting strict limits on Iran and exercising continued and escalating pressure on Iran to comply with their IAEA commitments. Iran will have to dismantle their enrichment program and demonstrate unequivocally that they have stopped working towards nuclear weapons or they will have to have their nuclear weapons programs and facilities destroyed by force. Irrational militant intolerant radical Islamic theocracies who have sponsored mass killing of innocent civilians merely because they do not follow the same religion cannot be allowed to freely develop nuclear arms. That is why it is currently the policy of the USA that Iran will never be allowed to build nuclear weapons. If Iran weren't threatening Israel with annihilation, calling for Death for Americans and if Iran weren't racing to enrich uranium to the levels required for weapons then there would be no conflict. |
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Who is actually promoting war here? He, or others just as opinionated, but with more media and political clout? Well I'd say it is the one murdering innocent women and children with bus, cafe and marketplace bombings while trying to kill as many non-combatants as possible. I would say it is the one who is lying to the IAEA while building secret underground fortified nuclear processing facilities. I would say that it is the one who is threatening "Death" to other countries and denying that the Nazis committed genocide and saying that other countries should be "wiped off the face of the map". In a word, Iran. But that's just me. Yeah, they should be more civilized and use drones and mercenaries instead!
The US does not sponsor terrorism but Iran DOES. Iran is widely acknowledged as one of the worst state sponsors of terrorism. If Iran weren't threatening Israel with annihilation, calling for Death for Americans and if Iran weren't racing to enrich uranium to the levels required for weapons then there would be no conflict. If drone attacks with collateral damage of women and children, sanctions and mercenaries without gov't control, aren't "Terrorism" could you please tell me what is? These are OUR gifts of democracy we offer these nations. That's the purest definition of the pot calling the kettle black! "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO! That's terrorism, and murder when imposed, and our present foreign policy no matter how the "Religious Right" spins it! There is a qualitative difference between warfare and terrorism. Terrorism is defined by purposefully attacking and trying to kill non-combatants. This tactic is so vile that it is considered criminal even during warfare. Yet this is the PREFERRED tactic of Iran and her terrorist proxies. That is terrorism and obviously a government which is actively supporting lethal attacks on civilians for the purpose of social change and religious coercion must never be freely allowed access to the worst weapons known to mankind which are capable of killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in an instant. It is not complicated or mysterious. This is why I would support setting strict limits on Iran and exercising continued and escalating pressure on Iran to comply with their IAEA commitments. Iran will have to dismantle their enrichment program and demonstrate unequivocally that they have stopped working towards nuclear weapons or they will have to have their nuclear weapons programs and facilities destroyed by force. Irrational militant intolerant radical Islamic theocracies who have sponsored mass killing of innocent civilians merely because they do not follow the same religion cannot be allowed to freely develop nuclear arms. That is why it is currently the policy of the USA that Iran will never be allowed to build nuclear weapons. If Iran weren't threatening Israel with annihilation, calling for Death for Americans and if Iran weren't racing to enrich uranium to the levels required for weapons then there would be no conflict. Seems to be our policy to a "T"! You quote the media spin well, regardless of facts, but who cares about facts when people don't listen anyway? Your critique says it's OK to destroy a nation of people because a few 1000 of it's MILLIONS cause us grief. Like the gubment, when you own a hammer every problem is a nail! You can't fix stupid, you must vote it out! |
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Who is actually promoting war here? He, or others just as opinionated, but with more media and political clout? Well I'd say it is the one murdering innocent women and children with bus, cafe and marketplace bombings while trying to kill as many non-combatants as possible. I would say it is the one who is lying to the IAEA while building secret underground fortified nuclear processing facilities. I would say that it is the one who is threatening "Death" to other countries and denying that the Nazis committed genocide and saying that other countries should be "wiped off the face of the map". In a word, Iran. But that's just me. Yeah, they should be more civilized and use drones and mercenaries instead!
The US does not sponsor terrorism but Iran DOES. Iran is widely acknowledged as one of the worst state sponsors of terrorism. If Iran weren't threatening Israel with annihilation, calling for Death for Americans and if Iran weren't racing to enrich uranium to the levels required for weapons then there would be no conflict. If drone attacks with collateral damage of women and children, sanctions and mercenaries without gov't control, aren't "Terrorism" could you please tell me what is? These are OUR gifts of democracy we offer these nations. That's the purest definition of the pot calling the kettle black! "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO! That's terrorism, and murder when imposed, and our present foreign policy no matter how the "Religious Right" spins it! There is a qualitative difference between warfare and terrorism. Terrorism is defined by purposefully attacking and trying to kill non-combatants. This tactic is so vile that it is considered criminal even during warfare. Yet this is the PREFERRED tactic of Iran and her terrorist proxies. That is terrorism and obviously a government which is actively supporting lethal attacks on civilians for the purpose of social change and religious coercion must never be freely allowed access to the worst weapons known to mankind which are capable of killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in an instant. It is not complicated or mysterious. This is why I would support setting strict limits on Iran and exercising continued and escalating pressure on Iran to comply with their IAEA commitments. Iran will have to dismantle their enrichment program and demonstrate unequivocally that they have stopped working towards nuclear weapons or they will have to have their nuclear weapons programs and facilities destroyed by force. Irrational militant intolerant radical Islamic theocracies who have sponsored mass killing of innocent civilians merely because they do not follow the same religion cannot be allowed to freely develop nuclear arms. That is why it is currently the policy of the USA that Iran will never be allowed to build nuclear weapons. If Iran weren't threatening Israel with annihilation, calling for Death for Americans and if Iran weren't racing to enrich uranium to the levels required for weapons then there would be no conflict. Seems to be our policy to a "T"! You quote the media spin well, regardless of facts, but who cares about facts when people don't listen anyway? Your critique says it's OK to destroy a nation of people because a few 1000 of it's MILLIONS cause us grief. Like the gubment, when you own a hammer every problem is a nail! You can't fix stupid, you must vote it out! I challenge you to point out where I said it was OK to destroy a nation of people. I never said anything of the sort. I only said it is our duty to protect ourselves from the radical Islamic theocracy in Iran by taking away their nuclear program if they do not respond to international pressure and dismantle the program themselves. That is why it is current US policy. It is because preventing the development of nuclear weapons in Iran is in our national interest not to mention that it is also in the best interest of all other free nations on earth - and even the other non-free Muslim nations.
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