Oh *#=#*!! Who let you in?? Am sure i locked the door behind me-with you on the porch!!???

you promised you wouldn't tell...

I actually think about sex a lot. And I don't mind talking about it with someone I've recently begun dating, but if the conversation is happening on one of the first two or three dates, I'd prefer that it come about as the result of some other topic, rather than just being introduced out of the blue.

That said, I've been known to joke around about sex with a guy early on, provided we both understand that it's just joking until we've gotten to know each other better and really trust each other. Even then, I want to know he's clean/safe before I sleep with him. Call me cautious.

But yeah, I do think about sex a lot. It's just part of life, and I'm comfortable talking about it. I don't think that makes me sex-obsessed or a slut or whatever. Likewise, I don't think the same thing in a guy automatically makes him a "pig". It's all in the tone of the conversation, and the expectations attached to it.

The OP makes an assumption about most women than isn't necessarily true. For example, a single woman who is a devout Christian may be determined to be celibate until marriage. So, she may not want to talk about sex until she is engaged to someone.

But that isn't necessarily "most" women. I think that, at least in Western culture, the percentage of women who want to remain celibate until marriage is quite small these days.

I won't pretend to know what most women in Western culture want.
I consider it an error to claim that "most women" want this or that, because there isn't any statistical evidence to support such a claim.

Actually, there is. Tons of surveys, general knowledge of the culture, etc. The OP wasn't wrong in claiming that "most women" are going to engage in sex at some point in a relationship. Most will.

because a man don't want a woman that is ware out...LmAo...if she isn't good in bed then why waist every ones time..? that is why men get to sex faster than weman..Now if you put sex to the side..then more people would be together .... weman want bigger,they say its better..guess what once its opened too big..it stays opened...so gross...then they cry ..men only want to have sex...Now you know..WHY

I'm sure this is going to help you get the sex you're looking for.

See this is where you lose out..on a good man...I for one aren't here for sex...I will find that true lady,the one that isn't looking for sex..and i will have found true love in both of us...sex then will rock both world...I'm 6 feet tall...legs will be num....lol..

Well, good luck!

Oh? Can you provide a hyperlink to such a survey?
Also, what culture are you referring to?

Sure, non-religious women may see nothing wrong with having sex outside of marriage, but women devoted to a particular faith may be wanting to wait until marriage before having sex. Such women of faith still exist, as indicated by the profiles of plenty of women at Mingle2.

There are probably religious women who are also ok with premarital sex as well.

There's nothing wrong with either. If you or someone else wants to wait until marriage to have sex, go for it. If someone wants to have sex before marriage, there's nothing wrong with that, either.

Dude, where do you live, and are you paying attention? Western culture, specifically North American and at least western Europe -- the UK, France, Germany, Sweden, etc. -- most people there have sex before marriage. Anyone who isn't aware of that hasn't been paying attention over the past 40 years.

And I never said anything about "religious" women, but two things there:

1. The majority of people in the cultures I've mentioned no longer adhere to religions that require celibacy before marriage, and

2. There ARE religious faiths that don't have any such requirement.

Bottom line, while certainly there ARE women who want to remain celibate until marriage, that doesn't mean they are the MAJORITY of women. "Most women" = "the majority of women". That's the whole point of my saying that the OP isn't wrong on that count.

As for citing a link: All you have to do is turn on the news, read the paper, surf the internet, go out and walk down the street and notice how people behave, etc. I don't have to spell it out for you.

I would be uncomfortable talking to a woman about sex UNLESS we were intimate and discussing what turns us on, etc. In other words, she was my partner, I'm still uptight.

You're still uptight talking about sex with your partner? If you can't talk to them comfortably about sex, I would imagine the sex is awkward, too.

Honestly, good communication is probably the most important component of a healthy sexual relationship -- and that's true whether we're talking about a married couple or a couple who just began dating each other last month. Unless you can both talk about what you like/dislike, want, need, enjoy, etc. it can be very difficult to have sexual harmony together. Some people likely do manage it without much talking, but that's down to luck.

No silly, I'm trying to say that I only feel comfortable talking with my partner about sex, repercussions of my upbringing.

Ah, the "she was my partner, I'm still uptight" part threw me off.