Why do the non-believers of islam. ask questions about suras 8:12 we will cast terror into the non-believer?

sura 4:89 they long that ye should not believe even as they disbelieve- take them and kill them wherever you find them. 9:123 kill the non-believers 9:29 kill the non-believers. 9:28 kill all non-believers until only islam. 2:193 slay and kill non-believers 9:5 kill all non-believers. they are hundreds of hadiths and suras that say kill the non-believers . please tell me why they won't convert to islam. the most peaceful religion ever? if the world converts then there will be peace. allah knows best!

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080217145252AASLZLM

God told me that it doesn't matter at all what religion you follow
but you have to be kind and caring towards others. It is OK to party.

That's the ticket. Take it from the Higher Authority.

Yes, and there was a time when many Christians didn't realize that burning witches wasn't christian, and having slaves wasn't christian, or that bombing abortion clinics wasn't christian.

While I would love for a billion Islamic youth to reject their religion wholesale, it can be sufficient for people to simply reject the fundamentalist form of their religion.

While everyone is entitled to his or her own perceptions on any topic under the earth, it is very amusing that people with access to information to guide their utterances are found to be either too lazy to research into topics or simply decide to stick to an opinion whether it is right or wrong :-)
From experience in dealing with diverse individuals and groups from various ethnicities and faiths, i've come to the realisation that generalisation is simply illogical when looking at issues!
It is also amusing when people of a supposedly matured age descend into using language that would make you cringe even if used by an immature child :-) Even if it is an online discussion on a dating site, it would have been expected that some decorum is used when making opinions! Maybe it is sometimes forgotten that the personality spills out through our words :-)
That said, i'm of the stand that anyone pertaking in violence under any guise is simply not religious! The value God places on human life goes far beyond allowing anyone to unilaterally take it upon himself or herself to snuff out lives in the name of religion.
Coming from a multiethnic background myself, i know the various deceptions carried out in the name of ethnicity and religion!
But if i may ask, should we ascribe violence to only one faith because of the antics of a few extremists? Or should we take EVERY extremist from ALL divides as an enemy of humanity?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

http://www.booknotes.org/Watch/178163-1/Jessica+Stern.aspx

Just my thoughts :-)

FUNDAMENTA-What?

I don't disagree. I just feel that it is extremely important for
everyone to stand up against fundamentalist violence everywhere
and at this point in time there is a very real and ultraviolent
perversion of Islam which is causing thousands and thousands of
deaths worldwide. Wars and war crime atrocities are being committed
on a daily basis in the name of radical Islam - and it is the
responsibility of all peaceful and tolerant people of every religion
and culture to speak out against such horrible backwards thinking.

This is one of the reasons I am proud that the world is standing
up against Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Taliban, al-Qaida and all the
other terrorist radical Islamic organizations.

On face value your post appears reasonable. However, if one analyses the number of terrorist acts and assigns them to a group, Islamic Terrorism (terrorism in the name of Islam) holds such a high number as a percentage of recent acts as to make most of the rest seem insignificant. This fact held true of the Christians in the fifteenth century but that time is long past. Bombing abortion clinics today is still quite rare by comparison.

One of the problems many (including myself) have with Islam is the APPARENT lack of effort in countering the defective logic of the radicals of the religion. Where is the outcry and outrage in Mecca and Medina? Where are the posters teaching that suicide bombing is against the religion?

In recent months I have had lunch with friends and clients who are Islamic a couple of times a week (Ramadan permitting). They are some of the nicest people you could ever meet. They do not speak out against the radicals either.

Agreed!

This all could have been bagged and tagged 10yrs ago from within the Muslim community... I'm thinking fear is the culprit

Again, how many millions is a small percentage of extremists?

This is some of what I had in mind. I'm still not happy with the maturity of overall christian culture, but they have come a long way the last few hundred years. Islam has the same potential. I have known Islamic students who were very devout, very serious about their religion, and have some of the highest personal values of anyone I know, as well as practicing a great deal of kindness, love, and tolerance.

Looking at the maturation of overall christian culture, and the maturation of certain islamic subcultures, its clear that Islamic culture on the whole also has the potential to mature - though I think it will take many generations at least.

It makes more sense to me to criticize violence, or to criticize religious influence in general, than to pretend that it is Islam specifically (and not Christianity) which is intrinsically violent.






Edit: I realized after posting that I missed the point of your post. Where is the vocal outcry within certain communities, communities that are clearly interwoven with the extremists. My post below doesn't speak to that, but to the muslims living peacefully in other parts of the world. I agree with the follow up poster - fear may play a role. Possibly also a sense of unification in fear and mistrust of foreign influences and threats.

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Regarding the lack of outcry by the peaceful muslims in other parts of the world...

There are some seriously stupid ****ing atheists out there, saying and doing some really stupid things, while beating their chest and proudly proclaiming their atheism.

They have nothing to do with me. I'm not responsible for them. Only an idiot would think that all atheists are like them. I rarely feel the least bit move to criticize them, or pro-actively disown them. They are idiots first, and atheist by accident.

When I was vegan, I felt the same way about some vegans.

I also don't feel at all responsible for white racists, despite being white myself.

The sensible Muslims I know just do not identify, at all, with the extremists. They have nothing to do with them. The way they see the division within islam, they don't even see them as being from the same religion.

Imagine there were a hundred million christians who believed exactly what those wing nut westboro baptists believe. I think there would still be millions of regular christians who would just say "But...they're crazy. I don't need to apologize or explain or make sure you know that I criticize them.... They have nothing to do with us. "

I see, in countries where islam is the minority, they can behave themselves to a point.

Just look at their track record.

There are 10's of millions who don't play well with others and the rest don't put them in their place.

I wish to not see my grandkids threatened with beheadings here.

If, there was an interest in the Gov. I'd imagine almost all mosques and even old Eugene's NOI is funneling money to those who would bring the US to her knees.