A Real Woman????

She is who she is, regardless of what anyone thinks.
She has an opinion, based on knowledge and understanding.
She respects and has compassion for those who deserve it.
She has a wicked sense of humor and a sharp quick wit.
She has a mind that makes a man think.
She commands respect because she offers it.
She is Beautiful inside, which only makes her outside Beauty Glow!!
She makes her own way in life, yet is able to share with her Man.
She expects and requires her man to make his own way and share as well.
She Brings a Smile to the face of all she comes in contact with.
She will not, however hesitate to.....tell you like it is!!!!
This is my definition of a real Woman!!!!

You know who you are......

HEY...quit talking about my woman

How would you define a "real man" or a "real woman?" Just curious...Do you have a lot of expectations when it comes to gender roles?

A man has a penis and a woman has a vagina. Beyond that I have no expectations.

HEY...quit talking about my woman

Hehehe.......It might be a small group Man-o......but she aint....alone!!!!

A man has a penis and a woman has a vagina. Beyond that I have no expectations.

Thanks but far as I am concerned my childhood is the past and I don't dwell on it. I have always questioned why I wasn't allowed to do things because I was a woman or why a guy can't do things because he is a guy. It never made sense to me why people had these expectations merely based on our sex. I knew a man that was awesome at knitting. He served in the Navy with me and I was jealous how he would knit beautiful things. I never for once thought him less of a man and admired him for stepping out of the box. The guys on ship never teased him or picked on him because of this. They had the maturity to realize that this never took away from him being a man. I agree though trying to find that one open-minded person that accepts you for who you are and doesn't try to make you play into a role is indeed a rare and treasured gift that I know I will never find.

I don't think some people realize how much they've been "programmed" to play out roles. It's all so deeply embedded inside of them. And they don't know how else to be...How do you feel about it?.. Good that the man you served with didn't get ridiculed or belittled for knitting....When my sons were small society definitely tried to mold and shape them. I got tired of all of the "sissy baloney!"

navygirl...Good that you've taken time to get to know yourself. And good that you didn't rush right into relationships to avoid being alone..I have a few friends (my age) who call and complain about their husbands once in awhile. (They complain that their husbands don't cook or help out around the house etc.) Yet they laugh it all off in the end because they probably wouldn't know how to "be" or what to "do" if they stopped playing-out gender roles. (Since they've been doing it for decades and decades.)...Sometimes I felt like a "weirdo" or "misfit" because my husband cooked all the time and did household chores etc. I wasn't really part of the "gang" in this respect. (But that's okay!)

I don't think there is anything weird about you. Like me; you chose to think outside the box. I always think that is a good thing as it broadens your horizons. My friend's wife is like that too. She can't do anything for herself so she would never divorce him; not to mention he is paying all the bills and she likes her comforts. I feel bad for him as I know he is very unhappy. Guess this is why he leans on me to talk with as his wife won't even communicate with him anymore.

Sorry about your friend. Do you think he'll ever consider splitting-up? Or making the first move towards separating?

No, he wouldn't because she has already told him that if he tries to end the marriage; she would take him for everything he has. So, he is stuck with her.

real women wear big bulging sunglasses

No, he wouldn't because she has already told him that if he tries to end the marriage; she would take him for everything he has. So, he is stuck with her.

Make it clear this is not a challenge of the observer but the observation.

This post infuryates me. Just because this woman did not lead the path you found as yours does NOT mean that she IS as you describe her.

Being a full time WIFE, Homemaker , and a MOTHER ( something I feel NO ONE can criticize until they have done it themself in our society that gives it fewer and fewer priveleges or protections), and quite likely at least a part time employee, not to mention often extended family caretaker.

To say she "can not do anything for herself" when she was the CEO of her marriage, raiseing their children (Maybe even the leader while he chipped in resentfully like he had no part in chooseing his responsibilites to be a Spouse/Father), running her household day in and day out 24/7/365 duty, and my guess if "they" are successful in his career and community also working extensively there, even making it clear she will enforce the arrangement he bought into when THEY were young and he sort of kind of committed himself to what now (maybe always was/sounds like still is) a weak-kneed cry baby that would rather communicate with a sympathic "friend" than work out HIS problems with his partner.

ANYONE buying that load of horse crap that Women who don't simply just carry their own load and choose to carry the responsibilities of being wife and parent are somehow lazy, helpless, or to be distained just don't get it or what sacrifices it takes in most marriages. Even in non-traditional marriages where the husband/father is so called fully involved (comeon you are out of the house 40 hrs + a week you are not full time except to your employer.) It is "easy" to get a job (especially an enriching job that allows a team solution to the job, travel, and social interaction any time they want it), maintain your own place; when you don't have a husband and kids coming in undoing a large percentage of what you do EVERY day.

And anyone who thinks the job is done when the kids have so called "left the nest" has not been a MOM to 20-30-and sometimes 40+ somethings that still depend in many ways on their Mom's to survive when Mom was suppose to FINALLY have some time/assets to herself. Mom's don't get Vacations or Leave time period!

Well maybe the rare few that just leave it all behind and disconnect which they are "crucified" for if they do regardless if it is medically necessitated or not. If you have never saw how many women run their homes from wheelchairs or other catestrophic impairments or life threatening illnesses, hospital beds, and sometimes even their graves by eeking out how to's and providing insurance so surving spouse's/children are provided for you haven't spent much time with women in crisis.

it sounds a very bad situation.I feel bad for you friend too. did he ever consider just leave her and give her everything and start anew,rather than stress himself with this neverending situation.just a thought..

I think its mostly about the house. It was left to him by his grandfather and the house means everything to him. She told him she would have it sold and this would break his heart. I feel sorry for him and all I can do is support him with a good ear.