No, He Didn’t Say That!

Most Americans confuse zionism and Judaism.

While many assume that zionism simply means allowing the Israeli nation to exist, many zionists in high positions within the Netanyahu and Sharon administrations advocate for very different policies altogether, including the use of offensive wars throughout the Middle East. See this, and read the section entitled “Securing the Realm” here.

In reality, many devout Jews are against zionism as being antithetical to traditional Jewish values. As such, many Jews say that criticizing zionism is not anti-semitism. … and some zionists themselves admit that even non-Jews have the right to criticize Israel.

Zionists can be also be Christian. Indeed, millions of fundamentalist Christians – including many in the American military - want to start WWIII to speed the “second coming” of Jesus Christ.

As such, the common practice of American politicians and media of interchanging Iran’s words about the “zionist regime” with the word “Israel” is disingenuous. For example, AP reported today:

Israel‘s existence is an “insult to all humanity,” Iran’s president said Friday ….”The existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to all humanity,” Ahmadinejad said.

Criticizing a particular “regime” in Israel is akin to criticizing the “Bush administration” or the “Obama administration”. For example, saying that Bush should have been impeached is not calling for the American government to be overthrown.

Similarly, the AP story repeated the old canard:

Tensions between Iran and Israel have intensified since 2005, when Ahmadinejad said in a speech that Israel will one day be “wiped off the map.”

In reality:

As a New York Times translation notes, Ahmadinejad wasn’t referring to Israel at all, but to the “regime” – i.e. the current political administration – in Israel.

Moreover, it was not Ahmadinejad himself speaking. He was quoting Ayatollah Khomeini, who died in 1989 (and who looked exactly like Sean Connery’s long-lost twin).

People can debate whether zionism is helpful or counter-productive, or which form of zionism is best. But interchanging zionism and Israel without explanation is misleading.

And anti-semitism is wholly unacceptable, as is prosecution of Christians, Muslims or anyone else for their religion or race.

But whatever Iran’s faults, the fact is that:

The U.S. overthrew the democratically-elected leader of Iran 60 years ago

The U.S. has been looking for an excuse to bomb Iran again for many decades

The U.S. funds terrorist groups within Iran

Iran protects Jews, and it’s constitution officially recognizes their rights (scroll to bottom; on the other hand, our close ally Saudi Arabia is virulently anti-semitic, and is the main backer of terrorism in the Middle East and abroad)

The American media is always pro-war, and happily trumpets disinformation about supposed enemies to drum up support for new wars
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/08/irans-words-mistranslated-again-by-americans-trying-to-start-a-war.html

Wow! Did I get it wrong. I didn't realize Ahmadinejad was such a nice guy. All he is really saying is, "give peace a chance". Pass me the Kool aid. Singing, Cum bya, my lord, cum by ya.

The United States State Department describes Iran as the “most active state sponsor of terrorism.”[2] US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice elaborated stating, “Iran has been the country that has been in many ways a kind of central banker for terrorism in important regions like Lebanon through Hezbollah in the Middle East, in the Palestinian Territories, and we have deep concerns about what Iran is doing in the south of Iraq.”[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state_terrorism

Seeing is believing!!



Do you have trouble translating "Death to Israel"?
"Destruction of the Zionist regime?"
"Israel should be destroyed?"



http://youtu.be/_9zcElqetqk

http://youtu.be/ykd-syzZ4ZY

http://youtu.be/ErGg2rK_tf8

http://youtu.be/5hLDjGdJC0Q

"This origin of corruption (Israel) will soon be wiped off the Earth's face."

The US is a satanic power that with Gods will be annihilated."



Right. All videos faked. It must be made up!



Hmmmm. Maybe we better keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons...
(Just in case....)




Well at least you cannot say that you never saw anyone from Iran
call for annihilation of Israel and the United States anymore!!

(and yes, I have noticed that the facts don't seem to register
at times)

The above videos are not "spin" but are the totalitarian radical
Islamist leaders speaking in their own words and in their own
voices for Chrissake!



What else do you want?!?!



There is no spin no interpretation. Just watch them call for the
genocidal death of Americans and Israelis!!

Have anybody translate it you like.



This is why it might not be such a great idea for these kind of
crazed religious fanatic Holocaust denying antisemites to get the
BOMB. I mean nuclear weapons in the hands of such nutballs would
be used to intimidate and possible even carry out the destruction
of the United States and Israel. They are promising to kill us in
these videos. I suggest we take them at their word. To ignore such
a threat would be "not a good idea" especially when Iran is already
acknowledged to be one of the worst and arguably the worst state
sponsor of the killing of innocent people already.

No Nukes for Iran.

If Iran gets nukes it will be one less war we will have to send our kids off to kill and die for.

It would create a detente and we would probably have an honest and fair peace.

yea, your right... then they could die right here at home from radiation burns .... the only peace in that area is when they are all gone..

Good lord you sound like a nazi.

try reading your own nazi posts sometimes...i'm NOT the jew basher in this conversation...

Is telling the truth a jew basher in your mind? Have I spewed any hate or called for a society to be eliminated?

defending the ones that do puts you in the same boat... what gets me is how you people are in denial, pretending that you are just "just telling the truth" when, in fact, you have no idea what the truth is...when have you been to Israel or Iran? when did you learn the Iranian language? You read things on the internet and make all these wild claims about things you know nothing about. in order not to be bashing jews, you would have to have an open mind about both sides, which is very evident that you do not. So, please stop being in denial, and accept what you are.

Iran is the Nazi in this scenario.

Why dey wanna' kill? Israelis!