Topic: satan
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Wed 08/08/07 04:34 PM
....or failing that, to assure us that its all in fun, just a game to play with the dark forces. doesent really mean anything to hang with the devil. its cool to do whatever makes you feel good. dont worry be happy its all good.
satansts dont worship satan? cmon.....

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Wed 08/08/07 06:46 PM
read up on it. they don't worship satan at all. infact many of them don't believe in the idea of a god at all. they merely use satan as a symbol of not suppressing your inner desires.

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Wed 08/08/07 07:12 PM
the church of satan, especially...founded by anton lavey...who happened to be an atheist. he was also absolutely brilliant. there are many tenants of this church that i find appealing...


The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1967

[Spanish, Croation]



1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.

2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.

3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.

4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.

5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

9. Do not harm little children.

10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.


not real big on numbers 4 and 11, but seriously...there's some pretty deep wisdom there, eh?


"We Satanists are our own Gods, and we are the explorers of the Left-Hand Path. We do not bow down before the myths and fictions of the desiccated spiritual followers of the Right-Hand Path."

interestingly enough, lavey visualized "satan" as being the antithesis to THE CHURCH...not to god. satan is a the human self, and it's enemy is organized religion...the very reason for him CHOOSING to be called a "satanist" was to piss of the church.

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Wed 08/08/07 07:46 PM
i agree with you lulu. although i don't consider myself a satanist i live by most of the tenets except the part aboout us being our own gods but i can understand where he is coming from.

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Wed 08/08/07 07:51 PM
shut the f&ck up cjb, youre so full of sh&t!!! you just want attention. well i guess your getting it

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Wed 08/08/07 07:52 PM
granted 4 and 11 sound a bit extreme if taken literally but i believe that if you are being an ass and i am respectful when telling you that it is not acceptable then they are really not leaving you any choice.

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Wed 08/08/07 07:53 PM
Who could forget Mr. Crowley laugh


Mr. Crowley, what went on in your head
(Oh) Mr. Crowley, did you talk to the dead
Your lifestyle to me seemed so tragic
With the thrill of it all
You fooled all the people with magic
(Yeah)You waited on Satan's call

Mr. Charming, did you think you were pure
Mr. Alarming, in nocturnal rapport
Uncovering things that were sacred, manifest on this earth
(Oh)Conceived in the eye of a secret
Yeah, they scattered the afterbirth


Mr. Crowley, won't you ride my white horse?
Mr. Crowley, it's symbolic of course
Approaching a time that is classic
I hear that maidens call
Approaching a time that is drastic
Standing with their backs to the wall



Was it polemically said
I wanna know what you meant
I wanna know
I wanna know what you meant, yeah!
devil

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Wed 08/08/07 07:57 PM
well...i understand where they are coming from. i'm more into the "do as you will an ye harm none" then "take what you want", myself...but i GET lavey. his family lived a soap opera...and they are SO fascinating.

one of his daughters left the church and founded her own...because she DOES believe in satan. hers is a bit more on the dark side, heh. he just wanted attention, and to be SEEN as dark.

in the end, he didn't quite succeed. couldn't wait til halloween to die...was two days short, lol.

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Wed 08/08/07 09:38 PM
Oh my ~~~ Looks as if I decided to check back in at the right....uh, I mean "left" time.

devil

It is refreshing to know that some people have really read about Satanism in an attempt to understand the actual philosophy.

I too have been in search of like-minded individuals. Not many of "us" here.

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Wed 08/08/07 09:44 PM
oops~~~~~
I forgot my "signature"


Peace, Love & Wisdom!

flowerforyou

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Thu 08/09/07 04:28 AM
hehe...come on...you just KNOW that with a name like "satanist" that everyone has to be sacrificing newborns and kittens.

i've done extensive research on anton lavey, read just about everything he's written...and even been in contact with one of the leaders of his church.

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Thu 08/09/07 04:09 PM
sacrificing newborns and kittens. you left out all of the completely filthy sexual acts that are performed at every orgy..uh i mean "meeting".

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Thu 08/09/07 04:31 PM
I just call him the man in the Red Pajama's...yawn

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Thu 08/09/07 04:33 PM
filthy? hey, we have blankets in the grottoes...and there's even a stream to wash off in.

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Fri 08/10/07 06:39 PM
if its not of christ, its antichrist by default.

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Fri 08/10/07 06:43 PM
i question that logic. "anti" means "agains", or "in opposition to"...

for one to be atheistic, that doesn't mean that they are AGAINST christ. they simply do not believe either way.

so it's only anti-christ to christians.

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Fri 08/10/07 06:44 PM
well see later whos right.
q- what did they say at the athiests funeral?
a- all dressed up and nowhere to go.

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Fri 08/10/07 06:47 PM
haha. i'm catholic, not atheistic.

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Fri 08/10/07 06:51 PM
whats up with purgetory? does the church still go there?
im not catholic but i went to catholic schools.

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Fri 08/10/07 06:53 PM
the bible says, (dont know where)that if its not of christ its antichrist. that one is Gods, not mine. lol