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Topic: Who makes the first move?
AndyBgood's photo
Mon 07/30/12 10:33 PM

I have asked men out, and I wouldn't be opposed to doing so again, even though those relationships went downhill, I don't believe all men are the same. Good luck!



drinker Keep the faith strong!drinker

Kahurangi's photo
Tue 07/31/12 12:15 AM

Here is the issue. IN Washington State and other States like Texas (Yahoo!) women are not afraid to ask men out. Here in California though it is reversed. Men are supposed to make the first move even in a state that fancies itself "SO PROGRESSIVE."

Something a lot of women may not know is that some of us get tired of trying to read signals and body language. Frankly some of us suck at reading human body language. On top of that at least to me women throw more mixed signals than a confused air traffic controller. AND I CAN'T Read minds. I believe what I am talking about is COMMUNICATIONS!

I guess it is because our society is spending so much time being gender conscious that we forget we are all human and likewise two halves of the same coin. I see it as a failure in most LTRs and Marriages where communication breaks down and then it is all down hill from there. And worst is the overcompensation that comes with this "New found realization in society."

But here in the dating world why is it women still don't ask the guys out at least here in California? EVEN BRITISH WOMEN GOT THE GUTS TO ASK FIRST!

Believe me, it would be a very bad thing if I could read minds. Can you say Ultimate Used Car Salesman?


But in closing to my beginning statement for this thread, if more people learned to really communicate with each
other this world would be a much better place!

That and,

Damn it ladies, SPEAK UP MORE OFTEN!


Soooo Andy...do you wanna go hang out in a plum tree and see who can fire the furtherest plum pit?? :-)

ezas123's photo
Tue 07/31/12 01:53 AM
i let her ..

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Tue 07/31/12 06:33 AM
I ask someone out if I'm attracted to them. It's either do or die. No point in waiting around. drinker . You are right. People are always using the "Well it's 2012! It's now the modern way!" excuse. Especially when it comes to love affairs. I don't buy that kind of reasoning. Why do others wait so long to ask someone out? Someone else could end up with them. And then it'll be too late.

no photo
Tue 07/31/12 06:34 AM
I ask someone out if I'm attracted to them. It's either do or die. No point in waiting around. drinker . You are right. People are always using the "Well it's 2012! It's now the modern way!" excuse. Especially when it comes to love affairs. I don't buy that kind of reasoning. Why do others wait so long to ask someone out? Someone else could end up with them. And then it'll be too late.

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 07/31/12 08:56 AM


Here is the issue. IN Washington State and other States like Texas (Yahoo!) women are not afraid to ask men out. Here in California though it is reversed. Men are supposed to make the first move even in a state that fancies itself "SO PROGRESSIVE."

Something a lot of women may not know is that some of us get tired of trying to read signals and body language. Frankly some of us suck at reading human body language. On top of that at least to me women throw more mixed signals than a confused air traffic controller. AND I CAN'T Read minds. I believe what I am talking about is COMMUNICATIONS!

I guess it is because our society is spending so much time being gender conscious that we forget we are all human and likewise two halves of the same coin. I see it as a failure in most LTRs and Marriages where communication breaks down and then it is all down hill from there. And worst is the overcompensation that comes with this "New found realization in society."

But here in the dating world why is it women still don't ask the guys out at least here in California? EVEN BRITISH WOMEN GOT THE GUTS TO ASK FIRST!

Believe me, it would be a very bad thing if I could read minds. Can you say Ultimate Used Car Salesman?


But in closing to my beginning statement for this thread, if more people learned to really communicate with each
other this world would be a much better place!

That and,

Damn it ladies, SPEAK UP MORE OFTEN!


Soooo Andy...do you wanna go hang out in a plum tree and see who can fire the furtherest plum pit?? :-)



If that is anything like eating watermelon and having a seed spitting contest I am all for that!

Kahurangi's photo
Tue 07/31/12 05:02 PM
That's exactly what it's like! Although playing plum pit wars in the tree has more action :wink:

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