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Sun 07/08/12 11:01 AM
This is so cool and weird I thought I would share it.
I have no explanation except it is slick and unusual.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_OawJA68jI"

metalwing's photo
Sun 07/08/12 01:07 PM
Edited by metalwing on Sun 07/08/12 01:07 PM
Here is an explanation.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1916233/pg1

It is the beginning of the end.

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Sun 07/08/12 01:08 PM
Animation. Symbolism. Conspiracy Theories. Armageddon.
All wrapped up in an opium den animated dream sequence.

It can be viewed as over-the-top parody of conspiracy theories.


Bestinshow's photo
Sun 07/08/12 02:05 PM
I thought it was totally clever almost genius and for the record conspiracy theorists have been right more than wrong......

The Plan:
In 1933, group of wealthy businessmen that allegedly included the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. And yes, we're talking about the same Prescott Bush who fathered one US President and grandfathered another one.

How did that work out?
A good rule of thumb: never trust a man named Smedley to run your hostile military coup for you. Besides being no fan of fascism, Smedley Butler was both a patriot and a vocal FDR supporter. Apparently none of these criminal masterminds noticed that their prospective point man had actively stumped for FDR in 1932.

Smedley spilled the beans to a congressional committee in 1934. Everyone he accused of being a conspirator vehemently denied it, and none of them were brought up on criminal charges. Still, the House McCormack-Dickstein Committee did at least acknowledge the existence of the conspiracy, which ended up never getting past the initial planning stages.

Though many of the people who had allegedly backed the Business Plot also maintained financial ties with Nazi Germany up through America's entry into World War II. But at least the United States never ended up becoming a fascist dictatorship (unless you ask Ron Paul supporters).

http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html

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Sun 07/08/12 06:55 PM

I thought it was totally clever almost genius and for the record conspiracy theorists have been right more than wrong......





Did the goat tell you that?

s1owhand's photo
Sun 07/08/12 07:36 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Sun 07/08/12 07:37 PM


I thought it was totally clever almost genius and for the record conspiracy theorists have been right more than wrong......





Did the goat tell you that?


Baaaaaaaaah!!!

laugh

We nave a bleater!!
Conspiracy Theories are basically fraudulent garbage!!

laugh

A conspiracy theory explains an event as being the result of an
alleged plot by a covert group or organization or, more broadly,
the idea that important political, social or economic events are
the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the
general public.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory


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Sun 07/08/12 08:00 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html


rofl @ using Cracked as a source of information.

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Mon 07/09/12 01:56 AM

http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html


rofl @ using Cracked as a source of information.
I know its so hard for some people to do a little research so I did it for you.

Allegations of the Business Plot
Universal Newsreel - Gen. Butler bares "plot" by fascists.ogv
Smedley Butler describes an alleged political conspiracy to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933

In November 1934, Butler alleged the existence of a political conspiracy of Wall Street interests to overthrow President Roosevelt, a series of allegations that came to be known in the media as the Business Plot.[54][55] A special committee of the House of Representatives headed by Representatives John W. McCormack of Massachusetts and Samuel Dickstein of New York, who was later alleged to have been a paid agent of the NKVD,[56] heard his testimony in secret.[57] The McCormack-Dickstein committee was a precursor to the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

In November 1934, Butler told the committee that a group of businessmen, saying they were backed by a private army of 500,000 ex-soldiers and others, intended to establish a fascist dictatorship. Butler had been asked to lead it, he said, by Gerald P. MacGuire, a bond salesman with Grayson M–P Murphy & Co. The New York Times reported that Butler had told friends that General Hugh S. Johnson, a former official with the National Recovery Administration, was to be installed as dictator. Butler said MacGuire had told him the attempted coup was backed by three million dollars, and that the 500,000 men were probably to be assembled in Washington, D.C. the following year. All the parties alleged to be involved, including Johnson, said there was no truth in the story, calling it a joke and a fantasy.[57]

In its report, the committee stated that it was unable to confirm Butler's statements other than the proposal from MacGuire, which it considered more or less confirmed by MacGuire's European reports.[58] No prosecutions or further investigations followed, and historians have questioned whether or not a coup was actually close to execution, although most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.[59][60][61][62] The news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[63] When the committee's final report was released, the Times said the committee "purported to report that a two-month investigation had convinced it that General Butler's story of a Fascist march on Washington was alarmingly true" and "... also alleged that definite proof had been found that the much publicized Fascist march on Washington, which was to have been led by Major. Gen. Smedley D. Butler, retired, according to testimony at a hearing, was actually contemplated".[64]

The McCormack-Dickstein Committee confirmed some of Butler's accusations in its final report. "In the last few weeks of the committee's official life it received evidence showing that certain persons had made an attempt to establish a fascist organization in this country...There is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution when and if the financial backers deemed it expedient."[65] [n 1][n 2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

The point being many theories turn out to be true.waving

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Mon 07/09/12 02:09 AM


NC.

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Mon 07/09/12 02:10 AM

http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html


rofl @ using Cracked as a source of information.



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Mon 07/09/12 02:12 AM


http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html


rofl @ using Cracked as a source of information.
I know its so hard for some people to do a little research so I did it for you.

Allegations of the Business Plot
Universal Newsreel - Gen. Butler bares "plot" by fascists.ogv
Smedley Butler describes an alleged political conspiracy to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933

In November 1934, Butler alleged the existence of a political conspiracy of Wall Street interests to overthrow President Roosevelt, a series of allegations that came to be known in the media as the Business Plot.[54][55] A special committee of the House of Representatives headed by Representatives John W. McCormack of Massachusetts and Samuel Dickstein of New York, who was later alleged to have been a paid agent of the NKVD,[56] heard his testimony in secret.[57] The McCormack-Dickstein committee was a precursor to the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

In November 1934, Butler told the committee that a group of businessmen, saying they were backed by a private army of 500,000 ex-soldiers and others, intended to establish a fascist dictatorship. Butler had been asked to lead it, he said, by Gerald P. MacGuire, a bond salesman with Grayson M–P Murphy & Co. The New York Times reported that Butler had told friends that General Hugh S. Johnson, a former official with the National Recovery Administration, was to be installed as dictator. Butler said MacGuire had told him the attempted coup was backed by three million dollars, and that the 500,000 men were probably to be assembled in Washington, D.C. the following year. All the parties alleged to be involved, including Johnson, said there was no truth in the story, calling it a joke and a fantasy.[57]

In its report, the committee stated that it was unable to confirm Butler's statements other than the proposal from MacGuire, which it considered more or less confirmed by MacGuire's European reports.[58] No prosecutions or further investigations followed, and historians have questioned whether or not a coup was actually close to execution, although most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.[59][60][61][62] The news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[63] When the committee's final report was released, the Times said the committee "purported to report that a two-month investigation had convinced it that General Butler's story of a Fascist march on Washington was alarmingly true" and "... also alleged that definite proof had been found that the much publicized Fascist march on Washington, which was to have been led by Major. Gen. Smedley D. Butler, retired, according to testimony at a hearing, was actually contemplated".[64]

The McCormack-Dickstein Committee confirmed some of Butler's accusations in its final report. "In the last few weeks of the committee's official life it received evidence showing that certain persons had made an attempt to establish a fascist organization in this country...There is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution when and if the financial backers deemed it expedient."[65] [n 1][n 2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

The point being many theories turn out to be true.waving


And yet, you supply only one, and then cite 'Cracked'?

s1owhand's photo
Mon 07/09/12 02:20 AM
I am thinking the next one will be "Pet Rat".

drinker

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Mon 07/09/12 02:30 AM


http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html


rofl @ using Cracked as a source of information.



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Mon 07/09/12 02:39 AM
Deeply Symbolic. Genius in a way....

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Mon 07/09/12 03:05 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 07/09/12 03:06 AM

Deeply Symbolic. Genius in a way....

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yep!

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Mon 07/09/12 04:52 AM

Oh, Smedley: Was there really a fascist plot to overthrow the United States government?

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2624/oh-smedley

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Mon 07/09/12 06:07 AM


Oh, Smedley: Was there really a fascist plot to overthrow the United States government?

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2624/oh-smedley


laugh

The Smedley affair PALES in comparison to this horrific attempt to
control the United States and install a devious megalomaniacal
despot. And it all absolutely TRUE - has been documented countless
times in the media. Even mainstream media.

http://youtu.be/qzZmU0aGmcc

I urge all of you to WAKE UP before it is TOO LATE!

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Mon 07/09/12 08:18 AM



Oh, Smedley: Was there really a fascist plot to overthrow the United States government?

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2624/oh-smedley


laugh

The Smedley affair PALES in comparison to this horrific attempt to
control the United States and install a devious megalomaniacal
despot. And it all absolutely TRUE - has been documented countless
times in the media. Even mainstream media.

http://youtu.be/qzZmU0aGmcc

I urge all of you to WAKE UP before it is TOO LATE!

Wake up and do what?
I'm just a dirt poor redneck.
One person can do nothing against a brainwashed army.

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Mon 07/09/12 12:41 PM



http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html


rofl @ using Cracked as a source of information.
I know its so hard for some people to do a little research so I did it for you.

Allegations of the Business Plot
Universal Newsreel - Gen. Butler bares "plot" by fascists.ogv
Smedley Butler describes an alleged political conspiracy to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933

In November 1934, Butler alleged the existence of a political conspiracy of Wall Street interests to overthrow President Roosevelt, a series of allegations that came to be known in the media as the Business Plot.[54][55] A special committee of the House of Representatives headed by Representatives John W. McCormack of Massachusetts and Samuel Dickstein of New York, who was later alleged to have been a paid agent of the NKVD,[56] heard his testimony in secret.[57] The McCormack-Dickstein committee was a precursor to the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

In November 1934, Butler told the committee that a group of businessmen, saying they were backed by a private army of 500,000 ex-soldiers and others, intended to establish a fascist dictatorship. Butler had been asked to lead it, he said, by Gerald P. MacGuire, a bond salesman with Grayson M–P Murphy & Co. The New York Times reported that Butler had told friends that General Hugh S. Johnson, a former official with the National Recovery Administration, was to be installed as dictator. Butler said MacGuire had told him the attempted coup was backed by three million dollars, and that the 500,000 men were probably to be assembled in Washington, D.C. the following year. All the parties alleged to be involved, including Johnson, said there was no truth in the story, calling it a joke and a fantasy.[57]

In its report, the committee stated that it was unable to confirm Butler's statements other than the proposal from MacGuire, which it considered more or less confirmed by MacGuire's European reports.[58] No prosecutions or further investigations followed, and historians have questioned whether or not a coup was actually close to execution, although most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.[59][60][61][62] The news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[63] When the committee's final report was released, the Times said the committee "purported to report that a two-month investigation had convinced it that General Butler's story of a Fascist march on Washington was alarmingly true" and "... also alleged that definite proof had been found that the much publicized Fascist march on Washington, which was to have been led by Major. Gen. Smedley D. Butler, retired, according to testimony at a hearing, was actually contemplated".[64]

The McCormack-Dickstein Committee confirmed some of Butler's accusations in its final report. "In the last few weeks of the committee's official life it received evidence showing that certain persons had made an attempt to establish a fascist organization in this country...There is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution when and if the financial backers deemed it expedient."[65] [n 1][n 2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

The point being many theories turn out to be true.waving


And yet, you supply only one, and then cite 'Cracked'?
is it inaccurate?

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Mon 07/09/12 12:48 PM



http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html


rofl @ using Cracked as a source of information.
I know its so hard for some people to do a little research so I did it for you.

Allegations of the Business Plot
Universal Newsreel - Gen. Butler bares "plot" by fascists.ogv
Smedley Butler describes an alleged political conspiracy to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933

In November 1934, Butler alleged the existence of a political conspiracy of Wall Street interests to overthrow President Roosevelt, a series of allegations that came to be known in the media as the Business Plot.[54][55] A special committee of the House of Representatives headed by Representatives John W. McCormack of Massachusetts and Samuel Dickstein of New York, who was later alleged to have been a paid agent of the NKVD,[56] heard his testimony in secret.[57] The McCormack-Dickstein committee was a precursor to the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

In November 1934, Butler told the committee that a group of businessmen, saying they were backed by a private army of 500,000 ex-soldiers and others, intended to establish a fascist dictatorship. Butler had been asked to lead it, he said, by Gerald P. MacGuire, a bond salesman with Grayson M–P Murphy & Co. The New York Times reported that Butler had told friends that General Hugh S. Johnson, a former official with the National Recovery Administration, was to be installed as dictator. Butler said MacGuire had told him the attempted coup was backed by three million dollars, and that the 500,000 men were probably to be assembled in Washington, D.C. the following year. All the parties alleged to be involved, including Johnson, said there was no truth in the story, calling it a joke and a fantasy.[57]

In its report, the committee stated that it was unable to confirm Butler's statements other than the proposal from MacGuire, which it considered more or less confirmed by MacGuire's European reports.[58] No prosecutions or further investigations followed, and historians have questioned whether or not a coup was actually close to execution, although most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.[59][60][61][62] The news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[63] When the committee's final report was released, the Times said the committee "purported to report that a two-month investigation had convinced it that General Butler's story of a Fascist march on Washington was alarmingly true" and "... also alleged that definite proof had been found that the much publicized Fascist march on Washington, which was to have been led by Major. Gen. Smedley D. Butler, retired, according to testimony at a hearing, was actually contemplated".[64]

The McCormack-Dickstein Committee confirmed some of Butler's accusations in its final report. "In the last few weeks of the committee's official life it received evidence showing that certain persons had made an attempt to establish a fascist organization in this country...There is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution when and if the financial backers deemed it expedient."[65] [n 1][n 2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

The point being many theories turn out to be true.waving


And yet, you supply only one, and then cite 'Cracked'?
So ? is it accurate or not that is the real issue and yes it was sooooooo?

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