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Topic: The 9/11 Commission Rejects own Report
Bestinshow's photo
Mon 06/25/12 04:48 PM
CINCINNATI, Ohio - The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.

In John Farmer’s book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11, the author builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version is almost entirely untrue. Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities’ School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.

Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No. Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes.

Farmer states, “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.”

The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say... “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth.” “ When Bush’s own handpicked commission failed to go along with the cover-up and requested a criminal investigation, why was nothing done?

9/11 Commission member and former US Senator, Bob Kerrey, says, “No one is more qualified to write the definitive book about the tragedy of 9/11 than John Farmer. Fortunately, he has done so. Even more fortunately the language is clear, alive and instructive for anyone who wants to make certain this never happens again.”

With the only “official” 9/11 report now totally false, where do we go from here? Who is hurt by these lies? The families of the victims of 9/11 have fought, for years, to get to the truth. For years, our government has hidden behind lies and secrecy to deny them closure.

In 2006, The Washington Post reported “...Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission...”

What does Farmer’s book tell us? Farmer offers no solutions, only a total and full rejection of what was told and his own ideas concerning the total failure of honesty on the part of the government, a government with something to hide.

Farmer never tells us what. Nobody could keep a job in the public sector speaking out more than Farmer has. What were Farmer’s omissions? There are some. Now that we know that intelligence given the 9/11 Commission wasn’t just lies from our own government but based on testimony coerced through torture from informants forced to back up a cover story now proven false, a pattern emerges.

We know that, immediately after 9/11, many more potential suspects and informants were flown directly to Saudi Arabia by Presidential order than were ever detained and questioned. We will never know what they could have said. Their testimony would have been vital to any real investigation were they not put beyond the reach of even Congress and the FBI.

Putting aside all other questions of recent evidence of CIA involvement with bin Laden prior to 9/11 or altered physical evidence involving the Pentagon attack, any failure to call to account the systematic perjury committed by dozens of top government officials, now exposed as a certainty, is an offense to every American.

What do we know? We know the conjecture about 9/11 still stands but for certain, we know we were lied to, not in a minor way, but systematically as part of a plot covering up government involvement at nearly every level, perhaps gross negligence, perhaps something with darker intent.

Are we willing to live with another lie to go with the Warren Report, Iran Contra and so many others? Has the sacrifice of thousands more Americans, killed, wounded or irreparably damaged by a war knowingly built on the same lies from the same liars who misled the 9/11 Commission pushed us beyond willingness to confront the truth?

Have we yet found where the lies have begun and ended? There is no evidence of this, only evidence to the contrary. The lies live on and the truth will never be sought. The courage for that task has not been found.

Can anyone call themselves an American if they don’t demand, even with the last drop of their blood, that the truth be found? How long have we watered the Tree of Deceit with the blood of patriots?
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20090919.html

InvictusV's photo
Mon 06/25/12 05:14 PM
I wish every liberal would read this.

There is an audio version for those liberals that can't read, by the way.

It reinforces and expounds the simple fact that the government is an incompetent bunch of buffoons.

The real conspiracy of 9-11 is that they weren't prepared to handle a kindergarten food fight and did as much as they could to hide their ineptness.

For those of you that believe these clowns could pull off 9-11 with or without the help of reptoids or anti gravity weapons I suggest you read this book..








willing2's photo
Mon 06/25/12 05:25 PM

I wish every liberal would read this.

There is an audio version for those liberals that can't read, by the way.

It reinforces and expounds the simple fact that the government is an incompetent bunch of buffoons.

The real conspiracy of 9-11 is that they weren't prepared to handle a kindergarten food fight and did as much as they could to hide their ineptness.

For those of you that believe these clowns could pull off 9-11 with or without the help of reptoids or anti gravity weapons I suggest you read this book..









Some of the elderly need CT's to have something to live for.

The rest of the Libs have their fingers in their ears yelling, "La-la-la-la-la-la. I can't heeeear you!laugh smokin

Bestinshow's photo
Mon 06/25/12 05:30 PM

I wish every liberal would read this.

There is an audio version for those liberals that can't read, by the way.

It reinforces and expounds the simple fact that the government is an incompetent bunch of buffoons.

The real conspiracy of 9-11 is that they weren't prepared to handle a kindergarten food fight and did as much as they could to hide their ineptness.

For those of you that believe these clowns could pull off 9-11 with or without the help of reptoids or anti gravity weapons I suggest you read this book..








Why is this about liberal or conservative? Your take on this topic is absurd.


InvictusV's photo
Mon 06/25/12 05:38 PM


I wish every liberal would read this.

There is an audio version for those liberals that can't read, by the way.

It reinforces and expounds the simple fact that the government is an incompetent bunch of buffoons.

The real conspiracy of 9-11 is that they weren't prepared to handle a kindergarten food fight and did as much as they could to hide their ineptness.

For those of you that believe these clowns could pull off 9-11 with or without the help of reptoids or anti gravity weapons I suggest you read this book..








Why is this about liberal or conservative? Your take on this topic is absurd.




You changed your retort.. I am impressed..

Liberals love big government because they think it can cure the ills of the world.

Government is incompetent and causes far more problems than it fixes.

That is not absurd its fact.

Bestinshow's photo
Mon 06/25/12 05:41 PM



I wish every liberal would read this.

There is an audio version for those liberals that can't read, by the way.

It reinforces and expounds the simple fact that the government is an incompetent bunch of buffoons.

The real conspiracy of 9-11 is that they weren't prepared to handle a kindergarten food fight and did as much as they could to hide their ineptness.

For those of you that believe these clowns could pull off 9-11 with or without the help of reptoids or anti gravity weapons I suggest you read this book..








Why is this about liberal or conservative? Your take on this topic is absurd.




You changed your retort.. I am impressed..

Liberals love big government because they think it can cure the ills of the world.

Government is incompetent and causes far more problems than it fixes.

That is not absurd its fact.
Its propaganda, it seems the private sector needed bailed out by the government and not visa versa.

anyhow the topic is the 911 comission report rejects its own findings, please stay along those lines.

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Mon 06/25/12 09:12 PM



I wish every liberal would read this.

There is an audio version for those liberals that can't read, by the way.

It reinforces and expounds the simple fact that the government is an incompetent bunch of buffoons.

The real conspiracy of 9-11 is that they weren't prepared to handle a kindergarten food fight and did as much as they could to hide their ineptness.

For those of you that believe these clowns could pull off 9-11 with or without the help of reptoids or anti gravity weapons I suggest you read this book..








Why is this about liberal or conservative? Your take on this topic is absurd.




You changed your retort.. I am impressed..

Liberals love big government because they think it can cure the ills of the world.

Government is incompetent and causes far more problems than it fixes.

That is not absurd its fact.



Yes, it demonstrates incompetence, however, this book will become the new CT Bible. Just watch these pages.

s1owhand's photo
Mon 06/25/12 09:25 PM
laugh

Note however that Farmer is not talking about negating conclusions
such as the existence of Al-Qaeda or the fact that radical Islamists
from Al-Qaeda were responsible for the attack.

He is only saying that our response was worse than what we let on.
And people did not own up to their poor preparedness and weak
response to that Al-Qaeda attacks.

The conclusions of the report regarding how we were attacked and
who attacked us and how the Towers were brought down are not
invalidated in any way. So...carry on with the nonsensical reptilian
aliens hypotheses.

laugh

drinker

Troubled's photo
Mon 06/25/12 09:59 PM
Edited by Troubled on Mon 06/25/12 10:01 PM

laugh

Note however that Farmer is not talking about negating conclusions
such as the existence of Al-Qaeda or the fact that radical Islamists
from Al-Qaeda were responsible for the attack.

He is only saying that our response was worse than what we let on.
And people did not own up to their poor preparedness and weak
response to that Al-Qaeda attacks.

The conclusions of the report regarding how we were attacked and
who attacked us and how the Towers were brought down are not
invalidated in any way. So...carry on with the nonsensical reptilian
aliens hypotheses.

laugh

drinker



He negates the conclusions of the 911 Commission. That makes everything the commission reported suspect. There conclusions were flawed period. But I'm with ya on the reptilian aliens. An honest investigation would throw a lot more light on what really happened

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 06/26/12 02:18 AM

CINCINNATI, Ohio - The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.

In John Farmer’s book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11, the author builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version is almost entirely untrue. Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities’ School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.

Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No. Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes.

Farmer states, “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.”

The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say... “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth.” “ When Bush’s own handpicked commission failed to go along with the cover-up and requested a criminal investigation, why was nothing done?

9/11 Commission member and former US Senator, Bob Kerrey, says, “No one is more qualified to write the definitive book about the tragedy of 9/11 than John Farmer. Fortunately, he has done so. Even more fortunately the language is clear, alive and instructive for anyone who wants to make certain this never happens again.”

With the only “official” 9/11 report now totally false, where do we go from here? Who is hurt by these lies? The families of the victims of 9/11 have fought, for years, to get to the truth. For years, our government has hidden behind lies and secrecy to deny them closure.

In 2006, The Washington Post reported “...Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission...”

What does Farmer’s book tell us? Farmer offers no solutions, only a total and full rejection of what was told and his own ideas concerning the total failure of honesty on the part of the government, a government with something to hide.

Farmer never tells us what. Nobody could keep a job in the public sector speaking out more than Farmer has. What were Farmer’s omissions? There are some. Now that we know that intelligence given the 9/11 Commission wasn’t just lies from our own government but based on testimony coerced through torture from informants forced to back up a cover story now proven false, a pattern emerges.

We know that, immediately after 9/11, many more potential suspects and informants were flown directly to Saudi Arabia by Presidential order than were ever detained and questioned. We will never know what they could have said. Their testimony would have been vital to any real investigation were they not put beyond the reach of even Congress and the FBI.

Putting aside all other questions of recent evidence of CIA involvement with bin Laden prior to 9/11 or altered physical evidence involving the Pentagon attack, any failure to call to account the systematic perjury committed by dozens of top government officials, now exposed as a certainty, is an offense to every American.

What do we know? We know the conjecture about 9/11 still stands but for certain, we know we were lied to, not in a minor way, but systematically as part of a plot covering up government involvement at nearly every level, perhaps gross negligence, perhaps something with darker intent.

Are we willing to live with another lie to go with the Warren Report, Iran Contra and so many others? Has the sacrifice of thousands more Americans, killed, wounded or irreparably damaged by a war knowingly built on the same lies from the same liars who misled the 9/11 Commission pushed us beyond willingness to confront the truth?

Have we yet found where the lies have begun and ended? There is no evidence of this, only evidence to the contrary. The lies live on and the truth will never be sought. The courage for that task has not been found.

Can anyone call themselves an American if they don’t demand, even with the last drop of their blood, that the truth be found? How long have we watered the Tree of Deceit with the blood of patriots?
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20090919.html
so Farmer is the Official Spokesman for the Commission,and is authorized by said Commission to reject the Report in their name?

Or is he just another Blabbermouth seeking recognition?

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Tue 06/26/12 03:00 AM


CINCINNATI, Ohio - The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.

In John Farmer’s book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11, the author builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version is almost entirely untrue. Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities’ School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.

Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No. Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes.

Farmer states, “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.”

The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say... “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth.” “ When Bush’s own handpicked commission failed to go along with the cover-up and requested a criminal investigation, why was nothing done?

9/11 Commission member and former US Senator, Bob Kerrey, says, “No one is more qualified to write the definitive book about the tragedy of 9/11 than John Farmer. Fortunately, he has done so. Even more fortunately the language is clear, alive and instructive for anyone who wants to make certain this never happens again.”

With the only “official” 9/11 report now totally false, where do we go from here? Who is hurt by these lies? The families of the victims of 9/11 have fought, for years, to get to the truth. For years, our government has hidden behind lies and secrecy to deny them closure.

In 2006, The Washington Post reported “...Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission...”

What does Farmer’s book tell us? Farmer offers no solutions, only a total and full rejection of what was told and his own ideas concerning the total failure of honesty on the part of the government, a government with something to hide.

Farmer never tells us what. Nobody could keep a job in the public sector speaking out more than Farmer has. What were Farmer’s omissions? There are some. Now that we know that intelligence given the 9/11 Commission wasn’t just lies from our own government but based on testimony coerced through torture from informants forced to back up a cover story now proven false, a pattern emerges.

We know that, immediately after 9/11, many more potential suspects and informants were flown directly to Saudi Arabia by Presidential order than were ever detained and questioned. We will never know what they could have said. Their testimony would have been vital to any real investigation were they not put beyond the reach of even Congress and the FBI.

Putting aside all other questions of recent evidence of CIA involvement with bin Laden prior to 9/11 or altered physical evidence involving the Pentagon attack, any failure to call to account the systematic perjury committed by dozens of top government officials, now exposed as a certainty, is an offense to every American.

What do we know? We know the conjecture about 9/11 still stands but for certain, we know we were lied to, not in a minor way, but systematically as part of a plot covering up government involvement at nearly every level, perhaps gross negligence, perhaps something with darker intent.

Are we willing to live with another lie to go with the Warren Report, Iran Contra and so many others? Has the sacrifice of thousands more Americans, killed, wounded or irreparably damaged by a war knowingly built on the same lies from the same liars who misled the 9/11 Commission pushed us beyond willingness to confront the truth?

Have we yet found where the lies have begun and ended? There is no evidence of this, only evidence to the contrary. The lies live on and the truth will never be sought. The courage for that task has not been found.

Can anyone call themselves an American if they don’t demand, even with the last drop of their blood, that the truth be found? How long have we watered the Tree of Deceit with the blood of patriots?
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20090919.html
so Farmer is the Official Spokesman for the Commission,and is authorized by said Commission to reject the Report in their name?

Or is he just another Blabbermouth seeking recognition?



The Talk Show Circuit; The Book Signings; The Public Appearances=CASH!!!!!

no photo
Tue 06/26/12 04:20 AM


CINCINNATI, Ohio - The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.

In John Farmer’s book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11, the author builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version is almost entirely untrue. Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities’ School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.

Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No. Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes.

Farmer states, “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.”

The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say... “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth.” “ When Bush’s own handpicked commission failed to go along with the cover-up and requested a criminal investigation, why was nothing done?

9/11 Commission member and former US Senator, Bob Kerrey, says, “No one is more qualified to write the definitive book about the tragedy of 9/11 than John Farmer. Fortunately, he has done so. Even more fortunately the language is clear, alive and instructive for anyone who wants to make certain this never happens again.”

With the only “official” 9/11 report now totally false, where do we go from here? Who is hurt by these lies? The families of the victims of 9/11 have fought, for years, to get to the truth. For years, our government has hidden behind lies and secrecy to deny them closure.

In 2006, The Washington Post reported “...Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission...”

What does Farmer’s book tell us? Farmer offers no solutions, only a total and full rejection of what was told and his own ideas concerning the total failure of honesty on the part of the government, a government with something to hide.

Farmer never tells us what. Nobody could keep a job in the public sector speaking out more than Farmer has. What were Farmer’s omissions? There are some. Now that we know that intelligence given the 9/11 Commission wasn’t just lies from our own government but based on testimony coerced through torture from informants forced to back up a cover story now proven false, a pattern emerges.

We know that, immediately after 9/11, many more potential suspects and informants were flown directly to Saudi Arabia by Presidential order than were ever detained and questioned. We will never know what they could have said. Their testimony would have been vital to any real investigation were they not put beyond the reach of even Congress and the FBI.

Putting aside all other questions of recent evidence of CIA involvement with bin Laden prior to 9/11 or altered physical evidence involving the Pentagon attack, any failure to call to account the systematic perjury committed by dozens of top government officials, now exposed as a certainty, is an offense to every American.

What do we know? We know the conjecture about 9/11 still stands but for certain, we know we were lied to, not in a minor way, but systematically as part of a plot covering up government involvement at nearly every level, perhaps gross negligence, perhaps something with darker intent.

Are we willing to live with another lie to go with the Warren Report, Iran Contra and so many others? Has the sacrifice of thousands more Americans, killed, wounded or irreparably damaged by a war knowingly built on the same lies from the same liars who misled the 9/11 Commission pushed us beyond willingness to confront the truth?

Have we yet found where the lies have begun and ended? There is no evidence of this, only evidence to the contrary. The lies live on and the truth will never be sought. The courage for that task has not been found.

Can anyone call themselves an American if they don’t demand, even with the last drop of their blood, that the truth be found? How long have we watered the Tree of Deceit with the blood of patriots?
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20090919.html
so Farmer is the Official Spokesman for the Commission,and is authorized by said Commission to reject the Report in their name?

Or is he just another Blabbermouth seeking recognition?



Number 2 !!!!.........This time I KNOW I won!!bigsmile

:banana: :banana: :banana:

metalwing's photo
Tue 06/26/12 05:42 AM
Money .... he's seeking money.

no photo
Tue 06/26/12 06:41 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Tue 06/26/12 06:42 AM

Money .... he's seeking money.


"Money, Money, Money"...

http://youtu.be/WCkOmcIl79s

s1owhand's photo
Tue 06/26/12 06:56 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Tue 06/26/12 06:57 AM


laugh

Note however that Farmer is not talking about negating conclusions
such as the existence of Al-Qaeda or the fact that radical Islamists
from Al-Qaeda were responsible for the attack.

He is only saying that our response was worse than what we let on.
And people did not own up to their poor preparedness and weak
response to that Al-Qaeda attacks.

The conclusions of the report regarding how we were attacked and
who attacked us and how the Towers were brought down are not
invalidated in any way. So...carry on with the nonsensical reptilian
aliens hypotheses.

laugh

drinker



He negates the conclusions of the 911 Commission. That makes everything the commission reported suspect. There conclusions were flawed period. But I'm with ya on the reptilian aliens. An honest investigation would throw a lot more light on what really happened


BS! You never read the book!

laugh

All Farmer says is that the response was bungled.
He does not negate anything about the nature of the attack!
It's an awful book. Usually I would say don't waste your time.
But you should read it if you are going to make such comments.

Here is part of the most popular review of the book on Amazon.

laugh

First, Farmer's book is a defense of the 9/11 Commission's report, which he calls "accurate, and true" (2), and the Commission was itself a governmental body: its chairman, Thomas Kean, was appointed by Bush; the other members were appointed by Congress; and the executive director, Philip Zelikow, was essentially a member of the Bush White House.

Second, the "official account of 9/11," as generally understood, is the Bush-Cheney administration's conspiracy theory, according to which the 9/11 attacks resulted from a conspiracy between Osama bin Laden and some members of al-Qaeda, and Farmer supports this theory.

Third, in rejecting the "official version," Farmer is referring only to the first version of the official account. It was replaced in 2004 by the 9/11 Commission's version, which since then has been the official version of the official account. In spite of his rhetoric, therefore, Farmer is defending the official account of 9/11 produced by the government in 2004, so the book is far less radical than it has been promoted as being.


laugh

Plus, he is a money-grubbing man-hoar!

laugh

Optomistic69's photo
Tue 06/26/12 07:17 AM
New NSA docs contradict 9/11 claims


“I don’t think the Bush administration would want to see these released," an expert tells Salon

June 19, 2012
By Jordan Michael Smith
Salon.com
Over 120 CIA documents concerning 9/11, Osama bin Laden and counterterrorism were published today for the first time, having been newly declassified and released to the National Security Archive. The documents were released after the NSA pored through the footnotes of the 9/11 Commission and sent Freedom of Information Act requests.

The material contains much new information about the hunt before and after 9/11 for bin Laden, the development of the drone campaign in AfPak, and al-Qaida’s relationship with America’s ally, Pakistan. Perhaps most damning are the documents showing that the CIA had bin Laden in its cross hairs a full year before 9/11 — but didn’t get the funding from the Bush administration White House to take him out or even continue monitoring him. The CIA materials directly contradict the many claims of Bush officials that it was aggressively pursuing al-Qaida prior to 9/11, and that nobody could have predicted the attacks. “I don’t think the Bush administration would want to see these released, because they paint a picture of the CIA knowing something would happen before 9/11, but they didn’t get the institutional support they needed,” says Barbara Elias-Sanborn, the NSA fellow who edited the materials.

Let’s start there. In 2000 and 2001, the CIA began using Predator Unmanned Aerial Vehicles in Afghanistan. “The idea of using UAVs originated in April 2000 as a result of a request from the NSC’s Coordinator for Counterterrorism to the CIA and the Department of Defense to come up with new ideas to go after the terrorists in Afghanistan,” a 2004 document summarizes. The Pentagon approved the plan for surveillance purposes.

metalwing's photo
Tue 06/26/12 07:26 AM

New NSA docs contradict 9/11 claims


“I don’t think the Bush administration would want to see these released," an expert tells Salon

June 19, 2012
By Jordan Michael Smith
Salon.com
Over 120 CIA documents concerning 9/11, Osama bin Laden and counterterrorism were published today for the first time, having been newly declassified and released to the National Security Archive. The documents were released after the NSA pored through the footnotes of the 9/11 Commission and sent Freedom of Information Act requests.

The material contains much new information about the hunt before and after 9/11 for bin Laden, the development of the drone campaign in AfPak, and al-Qaida’s relationship with America’s ally, Pakistan. Perhaps most damning are the documents showing that the CIA had bin Laden in its cross hairs a full year before 9/11 — but didn’t get the funding from the Bush administration White House to take him out or even continue monitoring him. The CIA materials directly contradict the many claims of Bush officials that it was aggressively pursuing al-Qaida prior to 9/11, and that nobody could have predicted the attacks. “I don’t think the Bush administration would want to see these released, because they paint a picture of the CIA knowing something would happen before 9/11, but they didn’t get the institutional support they needed,” says Barbara Elias-Sanborn, the NSA fellow who edited the materials.

Let’s start there. In 2000 and 2001, the CIA began using Predator Unmanned Aerial Vehicles in Afghanistan. “The idea of using UAVs originated in April 2000 as a result of a request from the NSC’s Coordinator for Counterterrorism to the CIA and the Department of Defense to come up with new ideas to go after the terrorists in Afghanistan,” a 2004 document summarizes. The Pentagon approved the plan for surveillance purposes.



This post really doesn't make any sense. It might be the editing.

s1owhand's photo
Tue 06/26/12 07:26 AM
laugh

You mean that Al-Qaeda terrorists did not attack the World Trade Center?


OMG!

laugh


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 06/26/12 08:33 AM

Rather than laughing at the opinions of others, perhaps some might be able to PROVE their own opinions by something other than what we were "told" to be the truth.

If you can't PROVE your own opinion beyond a reasonable doubt, don't make light of the opinions or beliefs of others.... that just makes you a biased rhetoric spouter, not informed, or credible.

Since proof of EITHER belief can never be offered satisfactorily as long as it is covered under the official secrets act, and NOT available to the public, such acts can only be construed as biased attacks on another.

To not accept that fact, and continue to belittle others for their contrary beliefs, only deminishes your own credibility and character.

I have opinions, as EVERYONE does, but they are my own, unprovable and undefendable, so not a very good defense or tool for a logical debate.

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Tue 06/26/12 08:41 AM
Don't worry about those guys SS.

Without their laughing head they would die of boredom.



The Central Intelligence Agency's 9/11 File


Top Secret CIA Documents on Osama bin Laden Declassified

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 381
Posted June 19, 2012
Edited by Barbara Elias-Sanborn with Thanks to Archive Senior Fellow Jeffrey T. Richelson
The National Security Archive

Washington, D.C., June 19, 2012 – The National Security Archive today is posting over 100 recently released CIA documents relating to September 11, Osama bin Laden, and U.S. counterterrorism operations. The newly-declassified records, which the Archive obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, are referred to in footnotes to the 9/11 Commission Report http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htmand present an unprecedented public resource for information about September 11.

The collection includes rarely released CIA emails, raw intelligence cables, analytical summaries, high-level briefing materials, and comprehensive counterterrorism reports that are usually withheld from the public because of their sensitivity. Today's posting covers a variety of topics of major public interest, including background to al-Qaeda's planning for the attacks; the origins of the Predator program now in heavy use over Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran; al-Qaeda's relationship with Pakistan; CIA attempts to warn about the impending threat; and the impact of budget constraints on the U.S. government's hunt for bin Laden.

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