Topic: Israel kills two in strikes on Gaza
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Sat 06/23/12 02:31 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/23/12 02:32 PM



150 Rockets,and people shouldn't get pissed off!
WHAT a JOKE!slaphead



Tell Israel to stay on their side of the border then. Tell Israel to stop bombing innocent people, and tearing down their homes.

What the hell do they expect?


maybe if those INNOCENTS would stop Suicide-Bombing,Terrorattacks and firing Rockets it would stop!laugh


No, it wouldn't. The only way it will stop is when they surrender their homes and their land to the invasion taking place.

They are simply resisting the invasion of their country.

Any country who would resort to suicide bombings is dedicated and very desperate I would say.

Tell Israel to define a border and stay inside of it. No exceptions.

That won't happen because they think they deserve the entire region.

They don't.

THEY want the entire area!



Optomistic69's photo
Sat 06/23/12 02:33 PM
An Experiment in Provocation

Stealing Gaza

by BRIAN ENO

It’s a tragedy that the Israelis – a people who must understand better than almost anybody the horrors of oppression – are now acting as oppressors. As the great Jewish writer Primo Levi once remarked "Everybody has their Jews, and for the Israelis it’s the Palestinians". By creating a middle Eastern version of the Warsaw ghetto they are recapitulating their own history as though they’ve forgotten it. And by trying to paint an equivalence between the Palestinians – with their homemade rockets and stone-throwing teenagers – and themselves – with one of the most sophisticated military machines in the world – they sacrifice all credibility.

The Israelis are a gifted and resourceful people who fully deserve the right to live in peace, but who seem intent on squandering every chance to allow that to happen. It’s difficult to avoid the conclusion that this conflict serves the political and economic purposes of Israel so well that they have every interest in maintaining it. While there is fighting they can continue to build illegal settlements. While there is fighting they continue to receive huge quantities of military aid from the United States. And while there is fighting they can avoid looking candidly at themselves and the ruthlessness into which they are descending.

Gaza is now an experiment in provocation. Stuff one and a half million people into a tiny space, stifle their access to water, electricity, food and medical treatment, destroy their livelihoods, and humiliate them regularly…and, surprise, surprise – they turn hostile. Now why would you want to make that experiment?

Because the hostility you provoke is the whole point. Now ‘under attack’ you can cast yourself as the victim, and call out the helicopter gunships and the F16 attack fighters and the heavy tanks and the guided missiles, and destroy yet more of the pathetic remains of infrastructure that the Palestinian state still has left. And then you can point to it as a hopeless case, unfit to govern itself, a terrorist state, a state with which you couldn’t possibly reach an accommodation.

And then you can carry on with business as usual, quietly stealing their homeland.

BRIAN ENO is a musician and music producer.

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Sat 06/23/12 02:37 PM
Gaza is now an experiment in provocation. Stuff one and a half million people into a tiny space, stifle their access to water, electricity, food and medical treatment, destroy their livelihoods, and humiliate them regularly…and, surprise, surprise – they turn hostile. Now why would you want to make that experiment?

Because the hostility you provoke is the whole point. Now ‘under attack’ you can cast yourself as the victim, and call out the helicopter gunships and the F16 attack fighters and the heavy tanks and the guided missiles, and destroy yet more of the pathetic remains of infrastructure that the Palestinian state still has left. And then you can point to it as a hopeless case, unfit to govern itself, a terrorist state, a state with which you couldn’t possibly reach an accommodation.

And then you can carry on with business as usual, quietly stealing their homeland.



This guy nailed the situation in a nutshell.

Check and mate.

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Sat 06/23/12 02:54 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 06/23/12 03:01 PM

An Experiment in Provocation

Stealing Gaza

by BRIAN ENO

It’s a tragedy that the Israelis – a people who must understand better than almost anybody the horrors of oppression – are now acting as oppressors. As the great Jewish writer Primo Levi once remarked "Everybody has their Jews, and for the Israelis it’s the Palestinians". By creating a middle Eastern version of the Warsaw ghetto they are recapitulating their own history as though they’ve forgotten it. And by trying to paint an equivalence between the Palestinians – with their homemade rockets and stone-throwing teenagers – and themselves – with one of the most sophisticated military machines in the world – they sacrifice all credibility.

The Israelis are a gifted and resourceful people who fully deserve the right to live in peace, but who seem intent on squandering every chance to allow that to happen. It’s difficult to avoid the conclusion that this conflict serves the political and economic purposes of Israel so well that they have every interest in maintaining it. While there is fighting they can continue to build illegal settlements. While there is fighting they continue to receive huge quantities of military aid from the United States. And while there is fighting they can avoid looking candidly at themselves and the ruthlessness into which they are descending.

Gaza is now an experiment in provocation. Stuff one and a half million people into a tiny space, stifle their access to water, electricity, food and medical treatment, destroy their livelihoods, and humiliate them regularly…and, surprise, surprise – they turn hostile. Now why would you want to make that experiment?

Because the hostility you provoke is the whole point. Now ‘under attack’ you can cast yourself as the victim, and call out the helicopter gunships and the F16 attack fighters and the heavy tanks and the guided missiles, and destroy yet more of the pathetic remains of infrastructure that the Palestinian state still has left. And then you can point to it as a hopeless case, unfit to govern itself, a terrorist state, a state with which you couldn’t possibly reach an accommodation.

And then you can carry on with business as usual, quietly stealing their homeland.

BRIAN ENO is a musician and music producer.
so being a Musician and Producer somehow makes him an Expert on ME-History!
Nice deflection there,BTW!laugh


Former Mandate Arabs could have had a Home right along with the Jews,but once again they screwed up,thanks to their lousy Leadership,and they keep being screwed over by their lousy Leadership and by Activists who don't know their Rear from a Well!

That is what is screwing over the Arabs in the Territories!

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Sat 06/23/12 02:58 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/23/12 02:59 PM


An Experiment in Provocation

Stealing Gaza

by BRIAN ENO

It’s a tragedy that the Israelis – a people who must understand better than almost anybody the horrors of oppression – are now acting as oppressors. As the great Jewish writer Primo Levi once remarked "Everybody has their Jews, and for the Israelis it’s the Palestinians". By creating a middle Eastern version of the Warsaw ghetto they are recapitulating their own history as though they’ve forgotten it. And by trying to paint an equivalence between the Palestinians – with their homemade rockets and stone-throwing teenagers – and themselves – with one of the most sophisticated military machines in the world – they sacrifice all credibility.

The Israelis are a gifted and resourceful people who fully deserve the right to live in peace, but who seem intent on squandering every chance to allow that to happen. It’s difficult to avoid the conclusion that this conflict serves the political and economic purposes of Israel so well that they have every interest in maintaining it. While there is fighting they can continue to build illegal settlements. While there is fighting they continue to receive huge quantities of military aid from the United States. And while there is fighting they can avoid looking candidly at themselves and the ruthlessness into which they are descending.

Gaza is now an experiment in provocation. Stuff one and a half million people into a tiny space, stifle their access to water, electricity, food and medical treatment, destroy their livelihoods, and humiliate them regularly…and, surprise, surprise – they turn hostile. Now why would you want to make that experiment?

Because the hostility you provoke is the whole point. Now ‘under attack’ you can cast yourself as the victim, and call out the helicopter gunships and the F16 attack fighters and the heavy tanks and the guided missiles, and destroy yet more of the pathetic remains of infrastructure that the Palestinian state still has left. And then you can point to it as a hopeless case, unfit to govern itself, a terrorist state, a state with which you couldn’t possibly reach an accommodation.

And then you can carry on with business as usual, quietly stealing their homeland.

BRIAN ENO is a musician and music producer.
so being a Musician and Producer somehow makes him an Expert on ME-History!
Nice deflection there,BTW!laugh


You can't attack or deny the message so you always attack the messenger or give your personal opinion about them.

If you don't have any facts to back up your opinions, don't expect anyone to be swayed by your remarks.

Logically, nothing you say really matters. It does not add any credible (real) information to the subject.



Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 06/23/12 03:04 PM
From the fb page of a friend of mine who lives there....
13 minutes ago.


"Two massive explosions in Gaza have just woken me up and rattled my windows. I think they're at least 1km away towards the port. I can guarantee that there will be a few hundred children screaming their lungs out in fear right now, and probably for the rest of the night. No way for me to know who's been hurt or killed. One thing's for sure, Obama, Cameron, and the rest of the gang will be sleeping soundly tonight, and when they hear about this, they will be all in support of this Israeli response to a people being occupied and besieged. Whatever is your religion, please pray for Gaza's kids tonight, and do what you can to stop this madness."

Can we all at least agree the violence has to stop?!?!?!?!

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/23/12 03:11 PM

From the fb page of a friend of mine who lives there....
13 minutes ago.


"Two massive explosions in Gaza have just woken me up and rattled my windows. I think they're at least 1km away towards the port. I can guarantee that there will be a few hundred children screaming their lungs out in fear right now, and probably for the rest of the night. No way for me to know who's been hurt or killed. One thing's for sure, Obama, Cameron, and the rest of the gang will be sleeping soundly tonight, and when they hear about this, they will be all in support of this Israeli response to a people being occupied and besieged. Whatever is your religion, please pray for Gaza's kids tonight, and do what you can to stop this madness."

Can we all at least agree the violence has to stop?!?!?!?!
maybe it will stop,once those Rockets stop!

As long there are Rockets fired out of Gaza,there will be attacks by the Israeli Airforce!

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 06/23/12 03:12 PM


From the fb page of a friend of mine who lives there....
13 minutes ago.


"Two massive explosions in Gaza have just woken me up and rattled my windows. I think they're at least 1km away towards the port. I can guarantee that there will be a few hundred children screaming their lungs out in fear right now, and probably for the rest of the night. No way for me to know who's been hurt or killed. One thing's for sure, Obama, Cameron, and the rest of the gang will be sleeping soundly tonight, and when they hear about this, they will be all in support of this Israeli response to a people being occupied and besieged. Whatever is your religion, please pray for Gaza's kids tonight, and do what you can to stop this madness."

Can we all at least agree the violence has to stop?!?!?!?!
maybe it will stop,once those Rockets stop!

As long there are Rockets fired out of Gaza,there will be attacks by the Israeli Airforce!


~sigh~
ok

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/23/12 03:14 PM



An Experiment in Provocation

Stealing Gaza

by BRIAN ENO

It’s a tragedy that the Israelis – a people who must understand better than almost anybody the horrors of oppression – are now acting as oppressors. As the great Jewish writer Primo Levi once remarked "Everybody has their Jews, and for the Israelis it’s the Palestinians". By creating a middle Eastern version of the Warsaw ghetto they are recapitulating their own history as though they’ve forgotten it. And by trying to paint an equivalence between the Palestinians – with their homemade rockets and stone-throwing teenagers – and themselves – with one of the most sophisticated military machines in the world – they sacrifice all credibility.

The Israelis are a gifted and resourceful people who fully deserve the right to live in peace, but who seem intent on squandering every chance to allow that to happen. It’s difficult to avoid the conclusion that this conflict serves the political and economic purposes of Israel so well that they have every interest in maintaining it. While there is fighting they can continue to build illegal settlements. While there is fighting they continue to receive huge quantities of military aid from the United States. And while there is fighting they can avoid looking candidly at themselves and the ruthlessness into which they are descending.

Gaza is now an experiment in provocation. Stuff one and a half million people into a tiny space, stifle their access to water, electricity, food and medical treatment, destroy their livelihoods, and humiliate them regularly…and, surprise, surprise – they turn hostile. Now why would you want to make that experiment?

Because the hostility you provoke is the whole point. Now ‘under attack’ you can cast yourself as the victim, and call out the helicopter gunships and the F16 attack fighters and the heavy tanks and the guided missiles, and destroy yet more of the pathetic remains of infrastructure that the Palestinian state still has left. And then you can point to it as a hopeless case, unfit to govern itself, a terrorist state, a state with which you couldn’t possibly reach an accommodation.

And then you can carry on with business as usual, quietly stealing their homeland.

BRIAN ENO is a musician and music producer.
so being a Musician and Producer somehow makes him an Expert on ME-History!
Nice deflection there,BTW!laugh


You can't attack or deny the message so you always attack the messenger or give your personal opinion about them.

If you don't have any facts to back up your opinions, don't expect anyone to be swayed by your remarks.

Logically, nothing you say really matters. It does not add any credible (real) information to the subject.



says who?
I am simply showing up those simpering Frauds,who call themselves Friends of Palestinian People to further their Carrieres!sick
That goes for most of the Entertainment Industry!


Now,Nighty Night!
Past Midnight here!

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Sat 06/23/12 03:21 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 06/23/12 03:23 PM


From the fb page of a friend of mine who lives there....
13 minutes ago.


"Two massive explosions in Gaza have just woken me up and rattled my windows. I think they're at least 1km away towards the port. I can guarantee that there will be a few hundred children screaming their lungs out in fear right now, and probably for the rest of the night. No way for me to know who's been hurt or killed. One thing's for sure, Obama, Cameron, and the rest of the gang will be sleeping soundly tonight, and when they hear about this, they will be all in support of this Israeli response to a people being occupied and besieged. Whatever is your religion, please pray for Gaza's kids tonight, and do what you can to stop this madness."

Can we all at least agree the violence has to stop?!?!?!?!
maybe it will stop,once those Rockets stop!

As long there are Rockets fired out of Gaza,there will be attacks by the Israeli Airforce!


Read Brian Eno's Article Conrad

An Experiment in Provocation

Stealing Land

Creating Facts on The Ground

You refuse to see the real Israel

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Sat 06/23/12 03:24 PM



From the fb page of a friend of mine who lives there....
13 minutes ago.


"Two massive explosions in Gaza have just woken me up and rattled my windows. I think they're at least 1km away towards the port. I can guarantee that there will be a few hundred children screaming their lungs out in fear right now, and probably for the rest of the night. No way for me to know who's been hurt or killed. One thing's for sure, Obama, Cameron, and the rest of the gang will be sleeping soundly tonight, and when they hear about this, they will be all in support of this Israeli response to a people being occupied and besieged. Whatever is your religion, please pray for Gaza's kids tonight, and do what you can to stop this madness."

Can we all at least agree the violence has to stop?!?!?!?!
maybe it will stop,once those Rockets stop!

As long there are Rockets fired out of Gaza,there will be attacks by the Israeli Airforce!


~sigh~
ok



laugh laugh laugh laugh

flowerforyou

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 06/23/12 03:30 PM



From the fb page of a friend of mine who lives there....
13 minutes ago.


"Two massive explosions in Gaza have just woken me up and rattled my windows. I think they're at least 1km away towards the port. I can guarantee that there will be a few hundred children screaming their lungs out in fear right now, and probably for the rest of the night. No way for me to know who's been hurt or killed. One thing's for sure, Obama, Cameron, and the rest of the gang will be sleeping soundly tonight, and when they hear about this, they will be all in support of this Israeli response to a people being occupied and besieged. Whatever is your religion, please pray for Gaza's kids tonight, and do what you can to stop this madness."

Can we all at least agree the violence has to stop?!?!?!?!
maybe it will stop,once those Rockets stop!

As long there are Rockets fired out of Gaza,there will be attacks by the Israeli Airforce!


~sigh~
ok


I should have taken that attitudelaugh :thumbsup: waving


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Sat 06/23/12 03:32 PM
Edited by Ladylid2012 on Sat 06/23/12 03:33 PM




From the fb page of a friend of mine who lives there....
13 minutes ago.


"Two massive explosions in Gaza have just woken me up and rattled my windows. I think they're at least 1km away towards the port. I can guarantee that there will be a few hundred children screaming their lungs out in fear right now, and probably for the rest of the night. No way for me to know who's been hurt or killed. One thing's for sure, Obama, Cameron, and the rest of the gang will be sleeping soundly tonight, and when they hear about this, they will be all in support of this Israeli response to a people being occupied and besieged. Whatever is your religion, please pray for Gaza's kids tonight, and do what you can to stop this madness."

Can we all at least agree the violence has to stop?!?!?!?!
maybe it will stop,once those Rockets stop!

As long there are Rockets fired out of Gaza,there will be attacks by the Israeli Airforce!


~sigh~
ok


I should have taken that attitudelaugh :thumbsup: waving




waving

Well really, what else can be said. slaphead :laughing:

InvictusV's photo
Sat 06/23/12 04:25 PM
never has been so much made about so little..

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Sat 06/23/12 05:04 PM

never has been so much made about so little..


Agreed. The same old faces spewing the same old hatred.

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Sat 06/23/12 05:54 PM
If you can't see and hate the evil being done in this world in the name of God or Peace, then you probably are part of that evil.

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Sat 06/23/12 05:58 PM

If you can't see and hate the evil being done in this world in the name of God or Peace, then you probably are part of that evil.


"If you're not with us, you're against us!"

laugh

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Sat 06/23/12 06:04 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 06/23/12 06:05 PM
Sorry, double post.

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Sat 06/23/12 06:32 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/23/12 06:32 PM


If you can't see and hate the evil being done in this world in the name of God or Peace, then you probably are part of that evil.


"If you're not with us, you're against us!"

laugh



Well not necessarily against us, but just clueless.
Clueless people support causes they think are good and just and sometimes that cause is simply a cover for an evil agenda.

Like most wars.




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Sat 06/23/12 06:59 PM
If the rockets from Gaza stopped tonight there would be no
need to try to take out any rocket launchers or those who
man them.

But if rocket launches continue toward Israeli townspeople
then the Israeli government is obligated to try to protect them
by attacking the launch sites and those who are sending the
rockets.

Hamas terrorists stop your insanity please in the name of innocent
people everywhere so there can be peace tomorrow.