Topic: The Depression Goes Global
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Thu 06/21/12 05:00 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 06/21/12 05:01 PM
I have been saying it a long time....Fasten your seatbelt, put your seat in an upright position, and hang on!

THE ECONOMIC, BANK CRASH IS ABOUT TO OCCUR!

2008 was only the tip of the iceberg!

http://www.americanbreakingpoint.com/money/the-depression-goes-global.html?cc=eletter&ct=ABP20120621A&cs=cgmo&sid=IQ7116&en=4362824

The Depression Goes Global
by Charles Goyette | Jun 21st 2012

While the attention of the financial world and the business press have been focused so completely on the daily developments in Europe – though there's not a game changer among them - other economic news from around the world has been largely crowded out.

The real news is that the depression is going global.

The spreading of the slowdown can be seen in the so-called BRIC nations. Surging growth from Brazil, Russia, India, and China has helped drive some of the world's economic vitality for a few years now. But the downturn is now taking hold in those countries, leaving little to resist the rip tide of depression.

Here are some economic highlights from each of the BRIC nations:

Brazil: Commodity exports are crucial to the Brazilian economy. China is the largest buyer of Brazil's exports, so a slowdown in China and lower commodity prices have affected Brazil. Growth has slowed considerably there already. 2010's 7.5% growth was sliced to only 2.7% last year. It's a trend in force: the Brazilian economy actually contracted in April. Foreign investments in Brazil appear to have reversed and become disinvestments.

Russia: Resource revenues, primarily earned from oil and natural gas exports, have helped drive growth of the economy and the middle-class in Russia. But it is a restive middle class that has taken its anti-Putin protests to the streets. As natural gas prices have taken a big hit in the last few years, and with oil down sharply since spring, Russia will run larger deficits, financed by inflation, a policy that will create more unrest. Earlier this year, the Russian central bank, which has been a net buyer of gold, surprised many with its first gold sales in five years.

India: Consumer price inflation in India is about 10%; food prices are increasing at a rate closer to 11%. Interest rates are high, the state deficit is widening, manufacturing has turned down sharply, and GDP growth is stalling. Standard & Poor's, which dropped the outlook for Indian debt from "stable" to "negative" in April, says the slowdown puts India's investment grade debt rating at risk.

China: Now the second largest economy in the world, China's demand has had a huge impact on commodity prices. Slipping commodity prices may tell more about what is going on (or not going on) in China than any official numbers, which are no more reliable than government numbers in the U.S. Besides the slowing export sector determined by conditions outside the country, China has blown up a huge real estate bubble of its own. Central economic planning, state -owned enterprises, and crony deals, all widespread in China, are no more functional there than they are anywhere else in the world.

The People's Bank of China's concern about a slowdown was seen earlier this month as it cut key interest rates for the first time in years.

It has become a cliché, but it is nevertheless true that we inhabit a global economy. We cannot escape the effects of slowing conditions elsewhere in the world. Thanks in part to emerging market demand, U.S. exports were up 17% last year, mostly in manufactured goods. As emerging markets slow, so do U.S. exports. China's slowdown threatens its ability to continue sponsoring U.S. debt. And then there is the inevitable currency warfare that ensues in a slowdown, as countries "race to the bottom" in their competitive devaluation of their own currencies, in the futile hope of generating prosperity by stimulating exports at the expense of destroying the people's purchasing power.

My local newspaper sums up the G-20 nation's talks in Mexico with a headline that reads, "G-20 talks on Europe debt spur optimism: Obama is encouraged strong action is near." It's like Groundhog Day. It's no different than the news stories about the European crisis that have run for years now. But no matter how many times the scene is repeated, the crisis of sovereign nations that spend more than they produce and cannot pay their bills is not fixed by loaning them more money.

The media focuses relentlessly on re-writing old news from Europe over and over. But despite the optimistic headlines, it is a situation that worsens as the debt deepens with each new rescue plan.

Meanwhile few notice that the tide is going out on the global economy.

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Thu 06/21/12 05:06 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 06/21/12 05:18 PM
The banks are buying worthless debt, and non-producing T bonds NOBODY else will buy, printing and distributing more fiat paper that is worthless as a result to create an illusion of false market growth!

Debt is debt, NOT LIQUIDITY!

$700,000,000,000,000 in promises and debt is NOT wealth...IT IS DEBT!

When you buy items worth nothing with currency that is worth nothing, all you get is nothing!

It's simple math!

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Thu 06/21/12 06:25 PM

Moody's downgrades 15 major banks
http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/post.aspx?post=fe1a21cb-dbd7-4101-9a99-31bd746d2cd0

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Thu 06/21/12 08:38 PM
At the last city counsel meeting as they were talking about increasing local taxes and restoring reciprocity, the last part of my response was, "It's not all bad. With the coming collapse of the dollar, I'm working on this vertical garden, which should be able to feed a family all year long, indoors". As I displayed the components and how much time it took to make, I heard chuckling.

This coming meeting I doubt anyone will be laughing, I'll be opposing the tax increase for reasons that should be obvious to anyone, speaking out to restore local tax reciprocity, and suggesting that it's time for the counsel to ask us as a people with a common goal of survival for help in solving the city's challenges.