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Topic: Ecuador says Wikileaks founder seeking asylum
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Fri 06/22/12 02:17 AM

start swimming Julian!
Its a long way to Ecuador!:laughing:


:tongue:

Lets see, relationship with the US or Julian and his stuff, relationship with the US or Julian and his stuff, relationship with the US or Julian and his stuff..................................

If your were Ecuador, what would you pick?.....laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 06/22/12 04:56 AM


start swimming Julian!
Its a long way to Ecuador!:laughing:


:tongue:

Lets see, relationship with the US or Julian and his stuff, relationship with the US or Julian and his stuff, relationship with the US or Julian and his stuff..................................

If your were Ecuador, what would you pick?.....laugh
But the Guy in Ecuador isn't thinking straight anyhow!
Could be a Conspiracy between the US and Ecuador!
Ecuador gets Julian to locate there,the extradites him to the USofA!
Yes,that has to be it!

:laughing:

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Fri 06/22/12 05:08 AM



start swimming Julian!
Its a long way to Ecuador!:laughing:


:tongue:

Lets see, relationship with the US or Julian and his stuff, relationship with the US or Julian and his stuff, relationship with the US or Julian and his stuff..................................

If your were Ecuador, what would you pick?.....laugh
But the Guy in Ecuador isn't thinking straight anyhow!
Could be a Conspiracy between the US and Ecuador!
Ecuador gets Julian to locate there,the extradites him to the USofA!
Yes,that has to be it!

:laughing:


I hope I don't get criticized for this, but here goes....rofl

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Fri 06/22/12 06:40 AM
I wish the reports would stop describing him as 'Australian', it's embarrassing. blushing

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 06/22/12 08:12 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 06/22/12 08:13 AM
Run Forrest,Run!

Erm,Swim Julian Swim!

Lpdon's photo
Fri 06/22/12 11:05 AM




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He'll probably get it as all he really is is a controlled opposition.


I think you're giving Julian too much credit....:smile:


Am I? Note what has been released to date. Annoying, yes, but nothing devastating in terms of our government.

Oh and yea, he got it.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11874911

Extradition starts all over again.


From the Telegraph ...

The WikiLeaks founder has spent the past two nights holed up in the South American country’s London embassy, in an attempt to avoid extradition to Sweden for questioning over alleged sex crimes.
He will discover later today if Ecuador plans to grant him asylum.
But it is widely accepted he will still face arrest the minute he walks out of the Knightsbridge building, where police are waiting, as he has breached his bail conditions. He is meant to remain at a bail address in Tunbridge Wells between 10pm and 8am every night while his extradition appeals continue.
Mr Assange, a 40 year-old Australian, cannot be given diplomatic immunity by Ecuador as conferred on other embassy staff, because the Foreign Office would not approve the application.
And even if he were made an Ecuadorian citizen or granted asylum, he would still be liable to be arrested on departure from the embassy.
Speaking on the steps this morning, a policeman told reporters: “I am not aware of any agreements which would allow him safe passage out of the UK.”
Scotland Yard confirmed: “A successful asylum bid does not change the fact that he has breached his bail conditions.”
One legal expert, the former government lawyer Carl Gardner, suggested that Mr Assange could try becoming Ecuador’s representative to the United Nations as a way to escape the country.
He wrote on Twitter: “It's hard to think how Assange could leave the embassy, escape arrest and get on a plane. Except as Ecuador's new representative to the UN.
“If Ecuador & Assange tried my UN representative idea, I think it'd depend on his leaving the embassy to catch a flight to New York.”
He added to a follower: “I'm not saying I'm sure it'd work; it's just the only way I can think of.”
The Foreign Office declined to comment on the possible ways by which Mr Assange could evade arrest.
The maverick journalist and former computer hacker is responsible for the leaking of thousands of sensitive US diplomatic cables and military files, and fears he will be extradited to America by Sweden.
His bid for refuge at the Ecuadorian embassy surprised his high-profile supporters – including Jemima Khan, Ken Loach and Michael Moore – and they are likely to lose the total of £240,000 bail bond they put up for him when he was first arrested in 2010.
The President of Ecuador, Rafael Correa, is expected to give instructions on the WikiLeaks founder's application later on Thursday.
Overnight, the country's deputy foreign minister Marco Albuja told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation: "We still can't make a final decision public yet until tomorrow.
"The national government is considering its position and the president will give us his instructions tomorrow."




I was thinkiny thin that he can have all the immunity he wants but he has to make it to the country first. All though I thought I read somewhere that the diplomats vehicle is considered foreign soil as well.


Time will tell, but I'm thinking Julian's goose is cooked....

Here's a pretty good take on the situation...


Assange Will Likely Lose Asylum Bid, Go to Jail, Lawyers Say
By Erik Larson on June 20, 2012 Tweet Facebook LinkedIn Google Plus 1 Comment

Julian Assange, founder of the anti- secrecy website WikiLeaks, will probably lose his bid for asylum from Ecuador and end up in an English jail for breaking the terms of his bail during an extradition fight, U.K. lawyers say.

Ecuador will seek to protect its relationship with Britain and the European Union by rejecting Assange’s bid, said Peter Watson, a lawyer with Allen & Overy LLP in London who isn’t involved in the case. Assange will then be arrested, lose the bail money put up by his supporters and be jailed until he’s extradited to Sweden on rape claims, Watson said.

“Seeking political asylum following an open, public trial and an appeal to the highest court in the land is essentially saying the U.K. court system stinks,” Watson said. “That would be a very difficult position for Ecuador, because of the ramifications on its international relationships, not just with the U.K., but with Europe and the U.S.”

The claims against Assange, an Australian, became public around the same time he posted classified U.S. military and diplomatic cables on the WikiLeaks website, creating controversy for U.S. President Barack Obama’s administration. Assange denies the rape allegations and argues Sweden fabricated the arrest warrant to assist the U.S. in punishing him for the breach.

“My guess is they won’t follow through with it,” Dan Hyde, a lawyer at Cubism Law in London, said in an interview about Ecuador’s forthcoming decision. “But even if they did, I don’t see how, pragmatically, he is going leave this country -- he doesn’t have diplomatic immunity.”

‘How Long?’
Assange breached his bail by staying overnight at the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where he sought asylum yesterday, the Metropolitan Police Service said in an e-mailed statement. Assange has been required for the past 18 months to remain at his bail address from 10 p.m. to 8 a.m.

“How long can he be holed up in there?” Hyde said. “He can’t stay there forever.”

Nine friends and supporters of Assange, including journalist and documentary filmmaker John Pilger and celebrity Jemima Khan, may lose money they put up as part of the more than 200,000 pounds ($314,800) in guaranties posted as part of his bail conditions in December 2010.

Gareth Peirce, Assange’s lawyer in London, didn’t immediately return a call to her office today on the asylum bid.

Ecuador is studying the request and is in contact with the U.K. government, the Andean country’s Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino told reporters in a brief statement in Quito.

Wrist Slap
If Ecuador refuses his request, Assange will likely be arrested and go before a judge, Watson said. Assange would face penalties ranging from a “slap on the wrist” to being jailed pending extradition, he said.

Assange, first arrested in London in December 2010, lost his appeal to avoid extradition after the U.K. Supreme Court ruled May 30 that the arrest warrant had been issued properly by Sweden. Assange had argued the warrant was invalid because it was issued by a prosecutor instead of a judge.

Assange was considering an appeal to the European Court of Human Rights before he sought asylum. His latest move suggests he received legal advice that a challenge at the court in Strasbourg, France, would be “hopeless,” Watson said.

“It’s a rather curious thing to do, because he would have had protection from extradition while the appeal with the human- rights court was underway,” Watson said.

Assange is accused of failing to use a condom with one of the women and having sex with the other while she was asleep. The women, both supporters of WikiLeaks, let Assange stay at their homes during a speaking tour in Sweden in 2010. The U.K. Court of Appeal ruled in November that he should return to Sweden to face the allegations. He hasn’t been charged with a crime.

The asylum bid is a “delay” tactic that won’t prevent Assange from being sent to Sweden “sooner or later,” Claes Borgstrom, who represents the alleged victims, said in an e- mailed statement.

“I am not surprised that Assange once again is trying to stop the extradition, but I could never have guessed his method this time,” Borgstrom said.

To contact the reporter on this story: Erik Larson in London at elarson4@bloomberg.net





I hope they nail his a$$ to the wall.


I hope, after Sweden is finished with him, there is something left for the US to "spank"...laugh


He's so interested in hacking in to and finding out what happens in G-Bay, I hope he gets to see first hand!

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Fri 06/22/12 11:15 AM





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He'll probably get it as all he really is is a controlled opposition.


I think you're giving Julian too much credit....:smile:


Am I? Note what has been released to date. Annoying, yes, but nothing devastating in terms of our government.

Oh and yea, he got it.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11874911

Extradition starts all over again.


From the Telegraph ...

The WikiLeaks founder has spent the past two nights holed up in the South American country’s London embassy, in an attempt to avoid extradition to Sweden for questioning over alleged sex crimes.
He will discover later today if Ecuador plans to grant him asylum.
But it is widely accepted he will still face arrest the minute he walks out of the Knightsbridge building, where police are waiting, as he has breached his bail conditions. He is meant to remain at a bail address in Tunbridge Wells between 10pm and 8am every night while his extradition appeals continue.
Mr Assange, a 40 year-old Australian, cannot be given diplomatic immunity by Ecuador as conferred on other embassy staff, because the Foreign Office would not approve the application.
And even if he were made an Ecuadorian citizen or granted asylum, he would still be liable to be arrested on departure from the embassy.
Speaking on the steps this morning, a policeman told reporters: “I am not aware of any agreements which would allow him safe passage out of the UK.”
Scotland Yard confirmed: “A successful asylum bid does not change the fact that he has breached his bail conditions.”
One legal expert, the former government lawyer Carl Gardner, suggested that Mr Assange could try becoming Ecuador’s representative to the United Nations as a way to escape the country.
He wrote on Twitter: “It's hard to think how Assange could leave the embassy, escape arrest and get on a plane. Except as Ecuador's new representative to the UN.
“If Ecuador & Assange tried my UN representative idea, I think it'd depend on his leaving the embassy to catch a flight to New York.”
He added to a follower: “I'm not saying I'm sure it'd work; it's just the only way I can think of.”
The Foreign Office declined to comment on the possible ways by which Mr Assange could evade arrest.
The maverick journalist and former computer hacker is responsible for the leaking of thousands of sensitive US diplomatic cables and military files, and fears he will be extradited to America by Sweden.
His bid for refuge at the Ecuadorian embassy surprised his high-profile supporters – including Jemima Khan, Ken Loach and Michael Moore – and they are likely to lose the total of £240,000 bail bond they put up for him when he was first arrested in 2010.
The President of Ecuador, Rafael Correa, is expected to give instructions on the WikiLeaks founder's application later on Thursday.
Overnight, the country's deputy foreign minister Marco Albuja told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation: "We still can't make a final decision public yet until tomorrow.
"The national government is considering its position and the president will give us his instructions tomorrow."




I was thinkiny thin that he can have all the immunity he wants but he has to make it to the country first. All though I thought I read somewhere that the diplomats vehicle is considered foreign soil as well.


Time will tell, but I'm thinking Julian's goose is cooked....

Here's a pretty good take on the situation...


Assange Will Likely Lose Asylum Bid, Go to Jail, Lawyers Say
By Erik Larson on June 20, 2012 Tweet Facebook LinkedIn Google Plus 1 Comment

Julian Assange, founder of the anti- secrecy website WikiLeaks, will probably lose his bid for asylum from Ecuador and end up in an English jail for breaking the terms of his bail during an extradition fight, U.K. lawyers say.

Ecuador will seek to protect its relationship with Britain and the European Union by rejecting Assange’s bid, said Peter Watson, a lawyer with Allen & Overy LLP in London who isn’t involved in the case. Assange will then be arrested, lose the bail money put up by his supporters and be jailed until he’s extradited to Sweden on rape claims, Watson said.

“Seeking political asylum following an open, public trial and an appeal to the highest court in the land is essentially saying the U.K. court system stinks,” Watson said. “That would be a very difficult position for Ecuador, because of the ramifications on its international relationships, not just with the U.K., but with Europe and the U.S.”

The claims against Assange, an Australian, became public around the same time he posted classified U.S. military and diplomatic cables on the WikiLeaks website, creating controversy for U.S. President Barack Obama’s administration. Assange denies the rape allegations and argues Sweden fabricated the arrest warrant to assist the U.S. in punishing him for the breach.

“My guess is they won’t follow through with it,” Dan Hyde, a lawyer at Cubism Law in London, said in an interview about Ecuador’s forthcoming decision. “But even if they did, I don’t see how, pragmatically, he is going leave this country -- he doesn’t have diplomatic immunity.”

‘How Long?’
Assange breached his bail by staying overnight at the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where he sought asylum yesterday, the Metropolitan Police Service said in an e-mailed statement. Assange has been required for the past 18 months to remain at his bail address from 10 p.m. to 8 a.m.

“How long can he be holed up in there?” Hyde said. “He can’t stay there forever.”

Nine friends and supporters of Assange, including journalist and documentary filmmaker John Pilger and celebrity Jemima Khan, may lose money they put up as part of the more than 200,000 pounds ($314,800) in guaranties posted as part of his bail conditions in December 2010.

Gareth Peirce, Assange’s lawyer in London, didn’t immediately return a call to her office today on the asylum bid.

Ecuador is studying the request and is in contact with the U.K. government, the Andean country’s Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino told reporters in a brief statement in Quito.

Wrist Slap
If Ecuador refuses his request, Assange will likely be arrested and go before a judge, Watson said. Assange would face penalties ranging from a “slap on the wrist” to being jailed pending extradition, he said.

Assange, first arrested in London in December 2010, lost his appeal to avoid extradition after the U.K. Supreme Court ruled May 30 that the arrest warrant had been issued properly by Sweden. Assange had argued the warrant was invalid because it was issued by a prosecutor instead of a judge.

Assange was considering an appeal to the European Court of Human Rights before he sought asylum. His latest move suggests he received legal advice that a challenge at the court in Strasbourg, France, would be “hopeless,” Watson said.

“It’s a rather curious thing to do, because he would have had protection from extradition while the appeal with the human- rights court was underway,” Watson said.

Assange is accused of failing to use a condom with one of the women and having sex with the other while she was asleep. The women, both supporters of WikiLeaks, let Assange stay at their homes during a speaking tour in Sweden in 2010. The U.K. Court of Appeal ruled in November that he should return to Sweden to face the allegations. He hasn’t been charged with a crime.

The asylum bid is a “delay” tactic that won’t prevent Assange from being sent to Sweden “sooner or later,” Claes Borgstrom, who represents the alleged victims, said in an e- mailed statement.

“I am not surprised that Assange once again is trying to stop the extradition, but I could never have guessed his method this time,” Borgstrom said.

To contact the reporter on this story: Erik Larson in London at elarson4@bloomberg.net





I hope they nail his a$$ to the wall.


I hope, after Sweden is finished with him, there is something left for the US to "spank"...laugh


He's so interested in hacking in to and finding out what happens in G-Bay, I hope he gets to see first hand!


He will!:wink:

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